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Need Help on Gengar Moveset
I can't figure out what my last move for my Gengar should be.
[email protected] ~Modest ~Levitate Moves: -Thunderbolt -Sludge Bomb -Shadow Ball - Any suggestions? |
Try a Destiny Bond. That way when you know its going to faint, you can take the last pokemon your fighting with you.
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Ok I'll try that out. Thanks :)
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Or if you want to surprise your foe, go with a SubPunching Gengar: Gengar @ leftovers Lonely Nature (+Attack, -Defense) EVs: 252 Attack, 180 Speed, 78 Special Attack - Focus Punch - Substitute - Shadow Ball/Thunderbolt - Fire Punch/Ice Punch/Explosion This thing takes a while to get used to, but it is the ULTIMATE Blissey destroyer. Shadow Ball or Thunderbolt (while doing decent damage in itself) will lure Blissey into play, and Substitute up if Blissey has Ice Beam, or if it's non-Ice Beam Blissey, just use Focus Punch, and BAM, bye-bye Blissey. |
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can genger really learn explosion? even if it can, i think destiny bond could be a little better ALL except that good suggestionz |
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You rarely see this setup anymore, most people (like myself) go with a pure Special Sweeper set, but as I said, it's the ultimate Blissey destroyer, and along with Explosion it should take down another Poke before going down himself. EDIT: I think you mistook "Focus Punch" for "Focus Blast". This Gengar setup is meant to be a surprise physical variation of Gengar, and he's one of the few who can pull it off quite well. |
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but i still think destiny bond might be better |
i use a Gengar with Focus Punch + Substitute as well. i specifically thought it up because i hate blissey. i didn't know it was common XD
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question about Destiny Bond
quick question about it. there were a few times that i used Destiny Bond and the foe got to me before i was able to use it. does it still work if you do it the round before, anticipating that someone is going to outspeed you the next round and take you down?
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Thanks for the help guys. What should I replace Sludge Bomb with if I take it out? Yeah I know about subpunch Gengar but I'm gonna stick with special sweeper. So far I have
-Thunderbolt -Shadow Ball -Destiny Bond -? |
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Hmm.. What are the main uses for energy ball? I know that ground is super effective against Gengar but I have levitate. And there might be another move that has more use than Energy Ball and I can stick with neutral damage against Swamperts.
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energy ball is just an option. gives you better type coverage than sludge bomb. or you can go with giga drain. with his high sp.att it can recover significant hp with it.
sludgebomb isn't great because it's only useful against grass types which aren't that common, and on the other hand many common steel types are immune to it(skarm, metagross, scizor, jirachi, etc). if you want stab you always have shadowball. |
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yeah he's right richard. it does a little over 50% after leftovers recovery to any standard blissey. even with full attack evs, he just doesn't have the sufficient power to take out a blissey with over 700 HP. but it's still enough to take blissey out in two turns. you just have to be smart about it, especially if by any chance, it's a Calm Mind Blissey.
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Hmm.. either way I don't think I'm going to make my Gengar a Sub-Punching Gengar. Waht do you guys think of adding Focus Blast to Gengar? I know it's a risk if I miss, but it does cover Dark and Steel types. Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, and Focus Blast cover most types, if not all. Then I have Destiny Bond for backup. Overall, what do you think of
-Thunderbolt -Shadow Ball -Focus Blast -Destiny Bond Off topic: So far my team has Gengar and Dragonite, would Infernape make a good addition? |
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Although, it is the ultimate surprise; the enemy now knows that no one can really be sent to counter Gengar, since Blissey gets nailed with Focus Punch (Blissey and Gengar are arch enemies, as we all know). And yeah... for a pure sweeping Gengar, go with this: - Shadow Ball - Thunderbolt - Focus Blast/Hypnosis - Energy Ball/Hypnosis One of the last two can be replaced with Hypnosis, but as I said, Hypnosis on Gengar is tricky, with it's below average accuracy. Eventually you'll come across a situation where either it hits and puts the foe to sleep, or it misses and the enemy OHKOs you. I say if you do go with Hypnosis, use it with caution, so far as to try to only use it on predicted switch-ins, so if it does miss, it's no skin off your back, and Gengar isn't threatened with a KO. |
I think I am going to stay away from Hypnosis because of its accuracy. I'm hoping I won't need to it actually beat them with it though. So I guess I'll have to use either Energy Ball or Focus Blast. I was thinking about how I'm supposed to beat Steel types, and Focus Blast really does seem like an effective method as most Steel types have a higher Defense than Special Defense.
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What about Blissey, though? Still wanna counter it?
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-Hypnosis
-Dream Eater -Thunderbolt -Destiny bond/Physic Hypnosis and Dream eater make a deadly combination, get the target pokemon to sleep and use dream eater, reduces targets pokemon and restores health ;) |
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Gengar @ Leftovers Lv. 100
Adamant / Modest Nature - Ice Punch - Explosion - Sludge Bomb / Giga Drain / Focus Punch - Thunderbolt Substitute may help too. |
Curse. if you come up against a stat-upper that is kiling your team, if you can outspeed it you can curse, then stall with a skarmbliss untill it dies. It could also be a pseudohazer. i think he wants to use one new move, not an entirely new moveset.
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Once again, I want my Gengar to be a Special Sweeper, not a Blissey Counter. Right now I'm leaning towards this moveset:
-Shadow Ball For STAB -Thunderbolt Type Coverage -Focus Blast Steel, Rock, and Dark -Destiny Bond To take them down with me if I know I'm in certain death What do you guys think? |
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Oh and instead of focus blast, think about energy ball. |
destiny bond relies on speed. the biggest reason why gengar gets KOed is because it's slower than what it is going up against. if you're slower, than Destiny Bond goes second, and therefore, makes it useless.
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That's the problem with walls... gives your enemy a chance to set something up, or at least lay down one set of Spikes, if you're not careful with your prediction. But anyways, I agree to replace Focus Blast with Energy Ball. Focus Blast is an option, but it has bad accuracy... which makes me in favour of not using it except with Choice Specs on a Gar or Zam... with that power, if it hits, it's nearly an OHKO on anything that doesn't resist it (not named Blissey). Pain Split is another move I've been tinkering around with... if you plan right, you can actually use it in your favour; ie, if the opponent thinks you'll attack (thus using Pain Split), you just switch out to a Pokemon with low HP, and it's free recovery time! |
Try Explosion for the final move. With Life Orb attached. D:
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wouldn't night shade be a better move than shadow ball? since it gets 100 power at lv100?
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I lol at some of the posts here, I really do. Destiny Bond is meant to take down sweepers, not walls. -.- Anyways, on this set:
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try ice beam, it can double as mcgar
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oh, i'm sorry. Ice punch can work too. in fact, thats better in DP because ice PUNCH is physical. Thanks smarties-san
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i've had good success with Gengar and Destiny Bond. i have it with Focus Sash so that it always holds on. As someone mentioned before, it's hard to say what to do when you encounter an opponent faster than you....
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