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ravenfan4125 June 27th, 2007 10:30 AM

elite 4 too easy in gold???
 
i may be alone in this but did anyone else notice how easy the G/S/C e4 to be way too easy

Matty101 June 27th, 2007 12:27 PM

YES!!! It was extremely easy! :( Disappointingly easy :( The strongest Pokemon was level..45? :P It was too easy. My friend bet that game with just a level 63 Poliwrath

destinedjagold June 27th, 2007 11:33 PM

REALLY! The elite four were really weak!!!!!!!!!

Angelic Diablo June 28th, 2007 1:18 AM

Actually the strongest was 47 (Karen's Houndoom)... if you include Lance that it is his level 50 Dragonite that's the strongest

LilDisco69 June 28th, 2007 1:21 AM

Yes, even though i didnt really train my pokemon, i actually beat them and my highest lvl was 58. Im not quite sure which is easier though, Gold/Silver/Crystal Elites or Ruby/Sapphire Elites

ravenfan4125 June 28th, 2007 5:37 AM

i think the sootopolis gym has higher levels than that

Shining Dragonite June 29th, 2007 2:40 PM

Not only that, but the Kanto gym leaders after that, for the most part, didn't get stronger over the course of the journey. Their strongest pokemon were all in the range of Lv44-48 (Save for Blaine and Gary), and, inexplicably, Janine has been given all Pokemon under lv40.

But I guess they made up for it by making Red really hard to beat...hehehe, except I can still 1-hit-ko his L81 Pikachu with my Lv47 Rhydon...

Shwicked June 29th, 2007 2:45 PM

It was really easy. I thought it was hard so I trained really hard. By, the time I got to the elite four, i was over-leveled.

Lt. Silver June 30th, 2007 1:18 AM

only lance was hard if you didnt have a good pokemon with an ice attack

Smarties-chan June 30th, 2007 1:45 AM

The e4 are easy in every generation so yes, I have noticed. Not only do most of their movesets suck, but the Pokémon they use aren't too great, either. Murkrow, Ariados and Venomoth, anyone? All of them have pretty low stats or bad movepool that doesn't support them and sucky moves/low levels make the e4 pathetically easy. Red isn't that much harder as it's quite easy to beat him with Pokémon in their late fifties/early sixties.

anemos June 30th, 2007 2:52 AM

well in gsc, the elite four werent the final battles. the entire johto region opens with several sidequests. =/

Alex June 30th, 2007 6:13 AM

GSC's E4 was the easiest of all the generations. I don't think the makers actually noticed that...

X-Files June 30th, 2007 6:36 AM

I have to say R/S/E was easier then GSC cause of lance from GSC and Karren were hard for me.

shinyraichu June 30th, 2007 8:01 AM

I Beat them with a level 40 something typlosion, and a level 40 something vileplume. The move-sets also always sucked, until D/P anyway. Their movesets are great.

Smarties-chan June 30th, 2007 8:56 AM

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I Beat them with a level 40 something typlosion, and a level 40 something vileplume. The move-sets also always sucked, until D/P anyway. Their movesets are great.
The D/P elites' movesets aren't great, but they aren't completely horrible either. Aaron's Vespiquen and Dustox movesets scare little children, Bertha's Quagsire makes me want to rant about how much stallers suck, Fissure on Golem (or any other Pokémon for that matter) is just lol and Flint's only decent Pokémon is Infernape. Lucian's moves are okay and Cynthia's sets are mostly 50% good, 50% fail. But the AI in D/P is even worse than before. I played through Diamond on an emulator and apparently Cynthia thought it's better to use Giga Impact than Earthquake on Empoleon and Aaron thought Megahorn would be more effective than Close Combat. So yeah, the elites in all games are equal in strenght I think. The D/P elites would have been a challenge if they wouldn't use some really crappy Pokémon (Dustox, Sudowoodo, Beautifly? L-M-A-O!) and if the AI wouldn't suck, but at least they programmed the AI in the earlier games to know the type chart so I wouldn't say any elites are harder than another.

Wheelz4speed June 30th, 2007 4:00 PM

Ya that's way to easy...lv 45.... whats that about?

johnnykenny1234 June 30th, 2007 7:26 PM

i think the makers realized this coz R/S/E elite for is way harder

pokefreak_00 July 1st, 2007 10:15 AM

it was 2 easy!!! dont you think?

Darkjagwar February 17th, 2008 9:24 AM

first of all, how is Lance supposed to get a Dragonite under lv 55???

and, yea, 2 easy, but that's only cause the game is only half over at this point. There's still the Kanto gyms and Red, who definitely is....sorta....maybe challeging w/ lv 70-80 pokés, but your pokés are über by that time so yea....w/e

Skaterzpenguin February 17th, 2008 10:54 AM

yes, but once you get to the kanto region its a little hard with Blue and Red.

Dave-o-rama February 17th, 2008 11:02 AM

yeah, it was easy, but my pokemon were undertrained.

Percy Thrillington February 17th, 2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkjagwar (Post 3343695)
first of all, how is Lance supposed to get a Dragonite under lv 55??? and, yea, 2 easy, but that's only cause the game is only half over at this point. There's still the Kanto gyms and Red, who definitely is....sorta....maybe challeging w/ lv 70-80 pokés, but your pokés are über by that time so yea....w/e

Well done on reviving a dead thread. And, yes, the games G/S/C were way too easy.

El Gofre February 17th, 2008 12:29 PM

I havent read through the entire thread so this point may have been covered; You forget that there are another 8 gym leaders AND red to come, its not meant to be the final challenge, its barley half way through

Anti February 17th, 2008 1:17 PM

Actually Smarties I beat Red with a level 55 Tyranitar :P It was too easy...and I did that when I was a mecha-n00b.

But seriously the E4 always suck but at least some of them can actually hurt your pokemon like in Ruby how Drake's Salamence can inflict a little damage. the e4 in Gold is a disgrace to pokemon.

Though I'm not going to bring up it took me about 10 tries to beat Lance...

BREAKINGBEN February 17th, 2008 1:56 PM

I think they made the G/S/C E4 so easy because, for some, the R/B/Y E4 was a lot harder than most anticipated.

Te-em February 17th, 2008 3:35 PM

It was easy. I beat it with Pokemon 10 levels lower. The opponents' Pokemon have no good techniques to use, so they're easy.

MissMegano February 18th, 2008 3:29 PM

ha ha. i remember beating the e4 with a lv. 50 charmander and lv. 40 something tododile. but when i was little and first played through the game it was really hard, lol.

Dark Destiny February 23rd, 2008 4:56 AM

actually, for me gold/silver/crystal E4 versions were easy until i got to lance, i had to fight him like 5 times before i defeated him.
but i only have a lvl 60 magneium/poliwrath, nothing else was decent (unless you count the lvl 40 pokemon -.-)
but d/p was easy than gold/silver/crystal (for me). i didn't have to refight any of them.
highest pokemon was lvl 60 luxray, the rest was between lvl 50-54.

Ash&pikachuarethebest February 26th, 2008 11:52 AM

Ha Destiny100 when you first went up against the E4 in Diamond you had a pokemon up to lv60 my highest lv pokemon was alakasam lv53 and the second highest garchomp lv51 the rest where in there late 40s and i hadn't even let my turtwig evolve and i beat them with ease. anyway back on subject yes G/S/C E4 were weak and was disappointed with them.

ultradarkrai February 26th, 2008 12:01 PM

yes. The best level they had was 50? You call yourself a Pokemon league? I will spit on you! *gathers spit in throat*

1 hour later

* still gathering spit* i need a drink.

The best pokemon League is Kanto. there best level is 63 or 65!


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