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rishi 20 June 28th, 2007 7:16 AM

whos stronger...diagla vs palkia
 
i would go with diagla. can they both fly.

~Misty~ June 28th, 2007 8:03 AM

Oh yay! Another Dialga Vs. Palkia Thread and endless flamers defending their versions Pokemon... JK.

But I don't really know, I think They are both good, it depends on how the trainer raises 'em.

-Jirachi- June 28th, 2007 8:03 AM

Well for that we would have to look at both Dialga's and Palkia's Types, Nature Stats and moves. Now Dialga is a Steel/Dragon while Palkia is a Water/Dragon. Both are pretty equal on the element defensive due to the fact that Palkia's water moves are not very effective neither are Dialga's steel moves yet both pokemons Dragon moves are super effective.

Now here come the Nature Stats.

Dialga's best stat type is:
HP:404
Attack:372
Defense:372
Sp. Attack:438
Sp. Defense:328
Speed:306

Palkia's best stat type is:
HP:384
Attack:372
Defense:328
Sp. Attack:438
Sp. Defense:372
Speed:328

So we can see that Dialga has better HP and Defense while Palkia has better Special Defense and speed.

Up to now both Dialga and Palkia are looking pretty equally matched but if we look at each pokemons strongest move set they could possibly have against each other it could decide who may just win the fight.

Possible Dialga Moveset:

Roar of Time
------------
Attack Power: 150
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon

Dragon Pulse
------------
Attack Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Type: Dragon

Draco Meteor
------------
Attack Power: 140
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon

Flash Cannon
------------
Attack Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Type: Steel

Possible Palkia Moveset:

Spacial Rend
------------
Attack Power: 100
Accuracy: 95
PP: 5
Type: Dragon

Fire Blast
----------
Attack Power: 120
Accuracy: 85
PP: 5
Type: Fire

Flamethrower:
-------------
Attack Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Type: Fire

Draco Meteor
------------
Attack Power: 140
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon

(NOTE: Dialga's moveset is customized to take out Palkia as is Palkia's to Dialga.)

Right so looking at the movesets Dialga has some really high powered moves his most powerful being Roar of Time holding a staggering 150 Attack Power, Whereas Palkia has a move set designed to work on Dialga's Steel to Fire weakness and with Fire Blast at hand with 120 Attack Power and a chance to burn could put Palkia down quickly.

In the terms of a battle Palkia would go first unless Dialga was holding a item which increased his speed (Is there such a item?) In which case Palkia could possibly win, however if Dialga went first he would more likely KO Palkia.

Or even if Palkia went first nine times out of ten one hit from Dialga's Roar of Time is enough to kill any dragon type pokemon outright so in conclusion i believe that Dialga would win overall

(Sorry for the mass essay :P)

wakachamo June 28th, 2007 8:27 AM

^Do note, however, that Roar of Time takes on time to recharge, and Spacial Rend doesn't.

And I'll just move this to Strategies & Movesets.

Moved~

rishi 20 June 28th, 2007 9:14 AM

i think diagla looks better

Punishment June 28th, 2007 9:22 AM

Dialga is stronger then Palkia physically but base stat distribution wise Palkia outranks Dialga.

Always and Never June 28th, 2007 9:31 AM

Looks? Come on you can do better than that. There's a bunch of competitions where each of them win...

Appearance:
Dialga. I mean who doesn't like spikey steel stuff?

Call:
Palkia. Sounds like a real dragon except at the end.

Size and Weight:
Dialga totally has Palkia beat. 17'09" vs. 13'09" and 1505.8 lbs. vs. 740.8 lbs. Dialga owns in that.

Pokedex description:
In my opinion, controlling space kills over controlling time. If you distort space, there is no reason to distort time. Palkia wins.

Types:
Dialga has a brand new type combination. Steel and Dragon. Killing it's two major weaknesses, Fire and Dragon.
Palkia, on the other hand is Water and Dragon. Kills all Ice weaknesses. Dialga wins on that one.

Rarity:
In real life, Diamonds are worth more than Pearls. Dialga's bigger so you also own the giant diamond that sits on its chest plate, and if you have Palkia, you have a puny pearl. Dialga wins.

General Living:
Dialga doesn't have wings, it has to walk unlike Palkia who flies freely. Dialga stand on all fours, leaving it open to aerial attacks, Palkia stands on two legs, leaving it open for attack from behind. Dialga's diamond is in a bad place, one Giga Impact and that thing would be shattered. Palkia's has full protection laying on its shoulder.
Palkia wins on that one.

So that's my analization. In my opinion, use Dialga. He won one more category than Palkia xD

Vainz June 28th, 2007 9:45 AM

First of all, it is way better to control time. You could just pause time and physically alter space. I think Dialga needs to win the Pokedex description xXscytherXx. Roar of Time is God. Besides, Dailga has resistances to:

normal
Water
Electric
Grass
Poison
Flying
Psychic
Bug
Rock
Ghost
Dark
Steel

Plus, nothing can shadder daimonds
lol
Dailga wins

Punishment June 28th, 2007 9:48 AM

Well time is a man made object believe it or not. It is a concept devoloped by humans to keep on track.

Space on the other hand isn't so Palkia wins.

Sephanie Liana June 28th, 2007 9:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vainz (Post 2565777)
First of all, it is way better to control time. You could just pause time and physically alter space. I think Dialga needs to win the Pokedex description xXscytherXx. Roar of Time is God. Besides, Dailga has resistances to:

normal
Water
Electric
Grass
Poison
Flying
Psychic
Bug
Rock
Ghost
Dark
Steel

Plus, nothing can shadder daimonds
lol
Dailga wins

Nothing but a diamond can cut another diamond. Shattering a diamond, though, is a completely different story.
Edit- lawl. I actually agree, though. I have Pearl, but Dialga seems way more awesome.

Punishment June 28th, 2007 9:53 AM

Yeah if we launched Dialga into the sun I dont think it will look very pretty.

rishi 20 June 28th, 2007 10:08 AM

so im gussen most pepps here have diamond

Vainz June 28th, 2007 10:25 AM

First, let me start by saying that this is the funniest thread i have seen yet. I guess i have to take back the Daimond no shattering comment. The only thing i was trying to say was that a Giga Impact could not shattter a daimond. Yes i do have daimond, but if i had Pearl, i would still say Dailga is better.

Punishment June 28th, 2007 10:29 AM

Ohh pooey Arceus would kick both thier behinds. On the other hand they are obth nearly equal. It all depdns on the trainer I suppose and how you train them.

Portujesus June 28th, 2007 10:45 AM

Some moderator should move this to "Useless Noob Discussions".

Paranoia June 28th, 2007 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Jirachi- (Post 2565552)

Possible Palkia Moveset:

Spacial Rend
------------
Attack Power: 100
Accuracy: 95
PP: 5
Type: Dragon

Fire Blast
----------
Attack Power: 120
Accuracy: 85
PP: 5
Type: Fire

Flamethrower:
-------------
Attack Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Type: Fire

Draco Meteor
------------
Attack Power: 140
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon

The only reason your Palkia would loose is because your moveset = Fail

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXscytherXx (Post 2565748)
Types:
Dialga has a brand new type combination. Steel and Dragon. Killing it's two major weaknesses, Fire and Dragon.
Palkia, on the other hand is Water and Dragon. Kills all Ice weaknesses. Dialga wins on that one.

What about Dialga's fighting weakness? *cough* Aura Sphere (Can't Miss) *cough*

But yeah, the only reason dialga wins, is because some people don't know how to battle properly.

Avolition June 28th, 2007 1:06 PM

Is Fighting Dialga's only weakness? What about Ground?

sims796 June 28th, 2007 1:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punishment (Post 2565785)
Well time is a man made object believe it or not. It is a concept devoloped by humans to keep on track.

Space on the other hand isn't so Palkia wins.

Time isn't a manmade object. Time always existed before we came along. When the day turns into night, year passes year, thats time. We just found a way to measure it.

Yes, Dialgia is weak against ground.

Vainz June 28th, 2007 2:01 PM

Ask yourself this question. Would you rather control space or time? I want a dinosaur, so, Dailga wins.

by the way, this is pretty stupid

wolfie1177 June 28th, 2007 3:36 PM

omg DIALGA! no question- he looks cooler and is less vulnerable imo than palkia

sims796 June 28th, 2007 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vainz (Post 2566594)
Ask yourself this question. Would you rather control space or time? I want a dinosaur, so, Dailga wins.

by the way, this is pretty stupid

While this is stupid, this is alot of fun.:D

Paranoia June 28th, 2007 7:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2566518)
Time isn't a manmade object. Time always existed before we came along. When the day turns into night, year passes year, thats time. We just found a way to measure it.

Yes, Dialgia is weak against ground.

Ahahaha just coz this thread = Fail I will post my opinion, Time is a man made idea, the reason there is day and night is because the earth moves, and spins, so light can't reach it, that isn't time, it's the natural order of things!

And another reason time was created, is because there isn't exactly 24 hours in a day, its 23.56 or something, its not exact, that's why there are leap years and daylight savings.

Also, Dialga looks like a retarded horse, I pfft at his so called tail, it ain't as cool as Palkia's

Always and Never June 28th, 2007 7:34 PM

Well hink of it like this. Hourglasses keep track of time, but what's natural about them is gravity.

Palkia has control of all forces, volume, mass, weight, gravity, aything. If it distorts space, it can distort anything

Of course, Dialga could do a rollout and stab it with its butt-spine thing. And Diamonds are shatterable. And a Giga Impact could totally break off a piece.

Dialga's call sounds like a little seagull on the beach.

Palkia's sounds lie death. I take bak my decision...

Palkia wins.

Short Range June 28th, 2007 8:15 PM

Think about physical strength measuring now. What about is they were both a Rattata at the same level? Who would win then?

Always and Never June 28th, 2007 8:29 PM

A rattata? How is that relevant to anything?


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