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Soulinferno June 29th, 2007 10:14 AM

Help me with my teams moveset's por favor
 
Ok heres my team so far and also let me say thanks in advance if anyone helps me :)

I also need help in spreading EV's.

Milotic @ leftovers
Bold Nature
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Recover
-Hypnosis

Electivire @ leftovers
Adamant Nature
-Thunder Punch
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake

Metagross @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
-Thunder Punch
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-???

Sceptile @ leftovers
Modest Nature
-Leaf Storm/ Grass Knot
-Substitute
-Crunch
-???

Charizard @ leftovers
Adamant Nature
-Fire Fang
-Crunch
-Dragon Dance
-Wing Attack

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Sassy Nature
-Pain Split
-Will O Wisp
-Shadow Ball???
-???



So far thats my team and I need help if these are the correct movesets and if those are the right items.

Vainz June 29th, 2007 11:01 AM

Most people use Explosion on Metagross to kill the last pokemon he fights.

Here are EV's
Milotic
- (for Special Wall) Sp.Def-252, HP-252, Def-6
- (for Sp.Attack/Wall) Sp.Attack-252, SpDef-252, HP-6

Electivire
-Attack-252, Speed-252, HP-6

Metagross
-Attack-252, Speed-6, HP-252 (my preference)

Sceptile
-Sp.Attack-252, Speed-252, HP-6

Charizard
-Attack-252, Speed-252, HP-6 (it seems like your going for a physical Charizard)

Spiritomb
-(these are so varied, you have to tell what kind of Spiritomb it is)

Soulinferno June 29th, 2007 11:53 AM

I was thinking about magnet rise for metagross final move didnt really think about explosion.


As for spiritomb im still not sure what I want him to be.

NocturnLeader June 29th, 2007 12:04 PM

Metagross @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
-Thunder Punch
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Psychic

Sceptile @ leftovers
Modest Nature
-Leaf Storm/ Grass Knot
-Substitute
-Crunch
-EarthQuake

Charizard @ leftovers
Adamant Nature
-Fire Fang
-Crunch
-Dragon Dance
-dragon Claw

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Sassy Nature
-Pain Split
-Will O Wisp
-Shadow Ball
-Dark Pulse

Avolition June 29th, 2007 1:56 PM

Um. Psychic on an Adamant Metagross? And Earthquake on a Modest Sceptile? I agree with the Explosion thing. Also, you could use Leaf Blade on Sceptile.

bossman34 June 29th, 2007 8:36 PM

rock slide over thunder punch and zen headbutt for metagross. Aerial Ace over wing attack for charizard, energy ball over leaf storm, and focus blast for sceptile. dark pulse on spiritomb

Live in Color June 29th, 2007 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulinferno (Post 2569391)
Ok heres my team so far and also let me say thanks in advance if anyone helps me :)

I also need help in spreading EV's.

Milotic @ leftovers -- 148 HP, 104 Defense, 16 Speed, 184 Sp. Attack, 56 Sp. Defense
Bold Nature
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Recover
-Hypnosis

Electivire @ leftovers -- 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Adamant Nature
-Thunder Punch
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake

Metagross @ [b]Choice Band (if Explosion)/Leftovers (if Agility)-- 252 Attack, 104 Speed, 154 HP (If Leftovers)/252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP (If Choice Band)
Adamant Nature
-Thunder Punch
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion/Agility

Sceptile @ leftovers -- 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
Naive Nature
-Leaf Blade
-Substitute
-Crunch
-Leech Seed

Leech Seed + Leftovers = practically free substitute.

Charizard @ leftovers -- 252 Sp. attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Modest Nature
-Flamethrower/Heat Wave
-Focus Blast
-Dragon Pulse
-Air Slash

Why have an Adamant Charizard when his Special Attack moves are much better and his Special Attack stat is much higher than Attack.

Spiritomb @ Leftovers -- 252 Defense, 252 Sp. Defense, 6 HP
Sassy Nature
-Pain Split
-Will O Wisp
-Shadow Ball
-Hypnosis

Hypnosis for the Special Attackers and Will-O-Wisp for the Physical Attackers

So far thats my team and I need help if these are the correct movesets and if those are the right items.

Just my opinion, hopefully they work, but it seems good. If anyone wants to correct feel free to do so.

Smarties-chan June 30th, 2007 6:19 AM

Lemonade, with all these Life Orbs and whatnot flying around Milotic isn't going to last with that spread. 252 HP/252 Def/4 SAtk or 252 HP/56 SAtk/196 Def is the way to go for Milo. And I seriously loled at that Sceptile set you suggested.

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Timid nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Speed, 4 HP

- Energy Ball
- Dragon Pulse
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

is much better. A physical Sceptile is novelty at best.

Also, Charizard works completely fine as a physical attacker even though its Sp.Attack is higher. However, Charizard doesn't have the time to buff itself up with Dragon Dance so Swords Dance or Sub + Belly Drum + Salac Berry is what a physical Zard should have.

Oh, and Electivire wants Life Orb, Choice Band or even Expert Belt.

Soulinferno June 30th, 2007 2:26 PM

Well thank you all for your input im probably going to go with the set that smarties said for sceptile and ill probably also end up with the 252 HP/56 SAtk/196 Def that you said for milotic.

As for charizard i still havent leveled him up alot so I can start him over and breed swords dance into him. As for metagross im gonna go with what vainz recommended.

And ill probably go with the set that lemonade gave for tomby and electivire.


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EDIT:Ive been thinking what if I use a modest charizard instead of adamant since I already have a physical pokemon in electivire maybe i should use charizard as my special attacker what do you guys think?

Live in Color June 30th, 2007 3:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarties-kun (Post 2571882)
Lemonade, with all these Life Orbs and whatnot flying around Milotic isn't going to last with that spread. 252 HP/252 Def/4 SAtk or 252 HP/56 SAtk/196 Def is the way to go for Milo. And I seriously loled at that Sceptile set you suggested.

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Timid nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Speed, 4 HP

- Energy Ball
- Dragon Pulse
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

is much better. A physical Sceptile is novelty at best.

Also, Charizard works completely fine as a physical attacker even though its Sp.Attack is higher. However, Charizard doesn't have the time to buff itself up with Dragon Dance so Swords Dance or Sub + Belly Drum + Salac Berry is what a physical Zard should have.

Oh, and Electivire wants Life Orb, Choice Band or even Expert Belt.

What's there to laugh about. That Sceptile that I mentioned easily took down a level 50 Charizard in Battle Frontier on my Emerald game. Sure it took some time, but it worked. I was even doing a battle yesterday (Yes, I lost but that's not the point :laugh:) and that Sceptile took out two Pokes before dying. It works, if you tried it I don't think you would LOL...

Samson June 30th, 2007 5:19 PM

charizard is pretty neat as a special attacker, though he needs choice scarf to pull it off.

Soulinferno June 30th, 2007 8:21 PM

im thinking about making my charizard a special attacker instead of physical what do you think about this moveset

-roost
-flamethrower
-air slash
-focus blast/crunch

Smarties-chan July 1st, 2007 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemonade (Post 2573124)
What's there to laugh about. That Sceptile that I mentioned easily took down a level 50 Charizard in Battle Frontier on my Emerald game. Sure it took some time, but it worked. I was even doing a battle yesterday (Yes, I lost but that's not the point :laugh:) and that Sceptile took out two Pokes before dying. It works, if you tried it I don't think you would LOL...

First of all, beating an AI Pokémon with that set doesn't prove anything and second, Leaf Blade and Crunch are now physical, meaning Sceptile can't do much damage with those. That set would have been fine for the Advance Games, but not for P/D.
Quote:

im thinking about making my charizard a special attacker instead of physical what do you think about this moveset

Charizard @ Choice Specs/Life Orb
-roost/Focus Blast
-flamethrower
-air slash/Focus Blast
-focus blast/crunchDragon Pulse
Nothing resists a Fire/Dragon combo apart from Heatran and that's where Focus Blast comes in. If you really want Roost (which I think Charizard is a bit fragile for.) then use Life Orb instead of Choice Specs. This set, however, is purely theoretical and I have no idea if it works.


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