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purunyosin July 2nd, 2007 1:27 AM

Hydro Pump, Yes or No?
 
Just wondering if teaching a move like Hydro Pump, which has 80 accuracy compared to Surf's 100 accuracy, if teaching a move like Hydro Pump to Tentacruel, or to any pkmn with average Sp. Atk(Golduck, Politoed, Mantine etc.) is a bad move choice? Or should I just max its Sp. Atk and give it Surf? This question goes to giving a pkmn Fire Blast instead of Flamethrower, Thunder instead of Thunderbolt and Blizzard instead of Ice Beam.

Angelic Diablo July 2nd, 2007 1:29 AM

Well I've seen Salamence sets where they give him Fire Blast to take out Skarmory (a physical wall, since Sala is normally a physical attacker), but I think that all three have slightly different accuracy, not sure though

purunyosin July 2nd, 2007 1:50 AM

Hydro Pump - 80
Fire Blast - 80
Blizzard - 70
Thunder - 70

That's why Blizzard and Thunder have Hail and Rain Dance.

Ivysaur July 2nd, 2007 2:03 AM

I prefer more precission and PP's. You can use surf three times more than Hydro Pump, and causes more than half of HP's damage. Max your Sp. Atk nevertheless.

purunyosin July 2nd, 2007 3:00 AM

Well.. This is the attack formula I got from Serebii.

((((2 * Level / 5 + 2) * AttackStat * AttackPower / DefenseStat) / 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness/Resistance * RandomNumber / 100

Hydro Pump - ((((2 * 100 / 5 + 2) * 280(average) * 120 / 280(average)) / 50) + 2) * 1.5 * 1 * 100 / 100 = <b>~104</b>

Surf - ((((2 * 100 / 5 + 2) * 95 * 280(average) / 280(average) / 50) + 2) * 1.5 * 1 * 100 / 100 = <b>~83</b>

Assuming the average HP is 280, it would take 3 Hydro Pumps or 4 Surfs to KO, that's also assuming all 3 Hydro Pumps hit.

Samson July 2nd, 2007 10:04 AM

hydro pump is acceptable on extreme bulky waters like Omastar and sometimes, Blastoise.

Mizer July 2nd, 2007 10:09 AM

Bubblebeam is a better alternate, sure you lose on some power, but in return you get a chance to lower speed.

Lxylia July 2nd, 2007 10:19 AM

Mizer is right. I have to agree, Hydro Pump won't do. Bubblebeam suit him/her.

Ethereal July 2nd, 2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purunyosin (Post 2577258)
Hydro Pump - 80
Fire Blast - 80
Blizzard - 70
Thunder - 70

Fire Blast has 85 and, thus, is the most acceptable of the heavy hitting beams.


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