The PokéCommunity Forums

The PokéCommunity Forums (https://www.pokecommunity.com/index.php)
-   Pokémon Gaming Central (https://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13)
-   -   Nubers without ubers are just noobs. (https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=90922)

Chibi Pika September 13th, 2007 2:55 PM

Well, what my friend and I do sometimes is settle to use a distint amount of Ubers. Like we'll do a Standard OU battle, but he'll include Lugia and I'll include Soul Dew Latios.

~CHibi~

Evil Rocket Scientist September 24th, 2007 5:55 PM

I have just fighten Nubers since I started, That is why ask for anyone to add me and we can have a nice chit chat and match, but those guys ...


arghhh, 4 rayquazzaz!!( if spelling is wrong I'm pretty sorry.)

Shiraishi September 24th, 2007 6:02 PM

..Non-EV trained ubers are just as deadly. Where the hell will those misused EVs go to? Somewhere. A somewhat EV trained Palkia in def survived my Salamence's dragon claw =_=

Always and Never September 24th, 2007 6:43 PM

Well, it is part steel, so it would just be normal effective. Not that surprising :p

kohei September 24th, 2007 8:18 PM

A thread which bashes uber abusers? I'm in!

So is the current situation of PBR random battles that bad? I remember how it was when it came out in Japan, and I'm pretty sure things are worse now.


[edit] Reason for uber hate: People who think they are good for using a full uber team. Even more so if the said person claims I've cheated because a normal team defeated his.

Crimson Arcanine September 24th, 2007 10:25 PM

This is one thing that stops me getting back into competitive battling. Me, I train what I like and I don't use most legendaries and most ubers. I prefer winning with my ninetales or my hitmonchan anyday then with Salamence, Gachomp or Swampert or even most of the legendaries. Its just so much more rewarding.

In short...I use pokemon I like the look of, and train them to be as strong as I can get them legally. To me thats what Pokemon is all about. Not about wiping the floor with ubers, not using untrained or trained legendary teams (especially those which are also uber) or hacked pokemon. Using what you like the best and having fun while using them.

Although, I am not against Ubers, most of my battling experience comes from battling people casually and of course occasionly teaching those who thought thier "team" was undefeatable just how wrong they were (But that was in the Color and Metal Gens)

Please note that these are my opinions, I'll battle anyone as long as thier pokemon are legit.

Chibi Pika September 28th, 2007 12:03 PM

^ But you see, that's the same reason why anyone would use ANY Pokemon. Yes, you get the ten year olds with all ubers just for the sake of ubers, but what if your favorite Pokemon just happen to be ubers. I adore Lugia in all it's broken-ness I've never actually trained one competitively though.

I love my Staraptor and Charizard just as much as I love my Tyranitar and Latios. I plan on having a Garchomp on my second Diamond team, and a Salamence on my Topaz/Opal team, simply because I've never used then before and they intrigue me.

~Chibi~

Shiraishi September 28th, 2007 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Always and Never³ (Post 2926087)
Well, it is part steel, so it would just be normal effective. Not that surprising :p

Palkia is water/dragon. It was super-effective.

MasterWGS September 28th, 2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibi Pika (Post 2937918)
... but what if your favorite Pokemon just happen to be ubers. I adore Lugia in all it's broken-ness I've never actually trained one competitively though...

I know exactly what you mean. Mewtwo is one of my favorites, but using him is a blasphemey against competitive play. I'm trying to make one with absolutely terrible IVs, nature, and EVs, just so I can use him. Silly idea, yes, but maybe it won't be hated so much...

Chibi Pika September 28th, 2007 12:48 PM

^ Personally, I think the best way to handle it is as I've said before. Do a technical "uber battle," but since all lower tiers are allowed, just settle with the opponent to only one or two ubers. Becasue I like using them, but I'd be hard pressed to come up with an entire team of 'em. *_*

Lmao, now I'm tempted to use my untrained Rash Groudon. xDDDD

~Chibi~

MasterWGS September 28th, 2007 1:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibi Pika (Post 2938110)
^ Personally, I think the best way to handle it is as I've said before. Do a technical "uber battle," but since all lower tiers are allowed, just settle with the opponent to only one or two ubers. Becasue I like using them, but I'd be hard pressed to come up with an entire team of 'em. *_*

Lmao, now I'm tempted to use my untrained Rash Groudon. xDDDD

~Chibi~

Seriously, I'm actually considering it. I think I'm gonna make a Physical Mewtwo. His Attack stat is nothing to brag about, even in the OU arena, nor are any of his defenses. His speed/HP are arguable, but if I give them no EVs and a negative speed nature, it might just work...

Our not-so-Ubers will have to face off sometime!

Anti September 29th, 2007 10:53 AM

MY friend thought he was high and mighty with his level 100 non-EVed rayquaza...MY kingdra took out all 6 of his pokemon...including the dang uber...actually, there was also gruberdon, kyuber, and the latubers, both of which had soul dew...I lol at his team. I hate the uber users...lol

Ichida September 30th, 2007 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2941682)
there was also gruberdon, kyuber, and the latubers, both of which had soul dew...I lol at his team. I hate the uber users...lol

Those nicknames are epic fail.

sims796 September 30th, 2007 8:52 AM

Those nicknames were perfect and you know it :laugh:

Always and Never September 30th, 2007 11:00 AM

How about their names are "Groudon" "Kyogre" and "[email protected]"

I like those better.

sims796 September 30th, 2007 11:12 AM

You love disagreeing, huh? Well, there goes the joke...

We know those are their names, it was just a joke.

Always and Never September 30th, 2007 11:55 AM

Life isn't fun without disagreeing :P

But seriously, those weren't really good nicknames. I'm sure there are better ones detailing the same thing.

MasterWGS September 30th, 2007 12:03 PM

I'll admit it. I liked Kyuber... Mostly because I pronounce it like Kyuubi...

DanKiba8 September 30th, 2007 1:01 PM

dude i agree that is rele annoying!!!!

Ichida September 30th, 2007 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanKiba8 (Post 2947382)
dude i agree that is rele annoying!!!!

So is misspelling "really." :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Ichida/ichidad.png

sims796 September 30th, 2007 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2949532)
So is misspelling "really." :P

Oooo, Low blow...:laugh: Well, we're starting to get off topic.

Archer September 30th, 2007 9:19 PM

People that use Ubers are noobs because they cant train their own pokemon. Using ubers is fine until you can train properly and use EVs, etc, it is then time to have some common decency and stop using them.

kohei October 1st, 2007 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 2949836)
People that use Ubers are noobs because they cant train their own pokemon. Using ubers is fine until you can train properly and use EVs, etc, it is then time to have some common decency and stop using them.

Ironically, "common decency" doesn't apply to most people who use ubers, as they believe winning by any means = JUSTICE OLOLOLOL.

I recently had a 3v3 lvl100 match with an elementary year student (the little bother of a friend), who believed his cheated shiny Mewtwo x 3 made him a good player. I got through his whole team with a choice scarfed Skuntank (the "ace" of my poison only team.) He accused me of cheating (see the irony here?), because Skuntanks are "bad Pokemon, and shouldn't be able to kill Mewtwo."

Afterwards I played another 3v3 against another elementary year student. She beat me with her Absol, who magic coated my Crobat's hypnosis, sword danced while I switched to Weezing, then baton passed to a CB Garchomp, where my will-o-wisp missed. Outrage -> Outrage -> Outrage and got OHKO'd pretty much.
But I didn't mind. She had good manners unlike my friend's bother.

Anti October 1st, 2007 10:03 AM

Hey, my nicknames...I didn't even come up with kyuber...epic fail. I'm adding that to my sig. What a great term. "Epic fail." I love it! What abouyt mewber...okay, that was not good...

As for people using ubers, I actually like it when n00bs think they're all high and mighty and I 6-0 'em...I've been called a hacker several times, which makes me lol. If you're gonna use ubers, at least use 'em right...rayquaza with fly was my all-time fav...it was against my rhydon XD

Shem October 1st, 2007 4:35 PM

i totaly agree that ubers are generally used by weak people, but i have t***arties, uber and non, i generall use the uber though, especilly on pbr colleseum mode because it makes battles easier, its also kinda fun to use ubers.

nikoking October 1st, 2007 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogiforce-14 (Post 2583615)
So anyway, today they let us play without legendaries. And it was a BIG difference. one trainer I played, five of his pokemon were weak to ground type moves. Swampert used earthquake on him three times, and then I had won. Most of these people are nothing without a bunch of legendaries.


I Know That Is Really Annoying! I Use my Top-5 non-legendary team And the Other Person uses Like Legendarys!

Anti October 7th, 2007 3:44 PM

I use celebi and raikou on my Netbattle team...legends are cool, it's the n00blets who think they're the hot stuff using all ubers...I just fought a celebi with shock wave and a groudon with thunder...lol. I just hate ubers. Grr! lol

Shiraishi October 7th, 2007 5:05 PM

WHY does PBR wi-fi battles have to be at 50..If it was 100 then my Starmie could outspeed moar Mewtwos.

ItzMike October 18th, 2007 7:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2845863)
It's called a f*cking competitive standard, people. Why is it so bloody hard for you to understand that this is how we compete in this game. We don't use ubers (see signature quote) because they are statistically unbalanced. And to all of you who know what EV training is and still choose not to, don't even think about challenging someone competent, because it results in your total defeat and a string of people calling you lazy, which you obviously are for ignoring the advanced training methods. I am sick and tired of how slothful, stubborn, and inadaptive people like you are. And before you pull out the "it's a game, we play it our way" excuse once again, let me offer my response to that right now: If you want to play with your own methods, I've no problem with that, as long as you don't take it against players like me who actually care about maintaining a status quo in the online Pokemon battling circuit.

In summation, either learn to play like the rest of the competent competitors, or stay the f*ck away from us.

I wholeheartidly agree with you.

The only time iv ever used legendaries or ubers all of you may ask?

When im helping lvl my perfec mvoesetted pokemon up a few (Shiyn Leafeon Glaceon Duo FTW)

But other than that ubers deserve to shine in the pokemon PC

Where they belong.

rasta likuid October 18th, 2007 11:22 AM

ay pintensen tos pa la porra legends are the best...if you all say u are the best why couldn't u beat a legend team??ahj??tell me :P

Bebetrunks October 18th, 2007 4:04 PM

Wow so there are people who actually level up and use the legendaries? Geeze, thats useless.

Faceless* October 18th, 2007 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasta likuid (Post 2988995)
ay pintensen tos pa la porra legends are the best...if you all say u are the best why couldn't u beat a legend team??ahj??tell me :P

Uber using people look like n00bs to me in my eyes O_O

Legends are fine, cept for the Uber ones. That includes Wobbuffet as well

We are competitive professionals fighting against 8-year olds who think they are unbeatable with a Dialga/Mewtwo. It is REALLY easy to overturn idiots that don't EV train their Pokemon, we CAN beat them, this thread is saying uber users without ubers are complete moronic newbs in wi-fi battling :\ (like you)

Voltagenic October 18th, 2007 9:06 PM

I feel that legends/ubers are fine, but when you have an entire team of them, said person is an idiot.

Myoko-chan October 19th, 2007 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasta likuid (Post 2988995)
ay pintensen tos pa la porra legends are the best...if you all say u are the best why couldn't u beat a legend team??ahj??tell me :P

Because Ubers have a great amount of stats, atleast about 70/80 over the OUs.(Slaking is an exception)
Plus some signature moves they learn(eg. Spacial Rend)

Faceless* October 19th, 2007 5:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu (Post 2990323)
I feel that legends/ubers are fine, but when you have an entire team of them, said person is an idiot.

Entire team = complete moronic

Legends ARE fine, as long as they don't pass over 600 stats (wobbuffet, Darkrai, Mew, or even Manaphy O_O which have really really really foolhardy movepool)

Slaking is different, it has Truant

Ubers aren't fine for people who really like playing the game and working hard to train their Pokemon, using ubers is like using Hypnosis and sleeping the entire team with Yanmega :\

Samuel.Olu October 19th, 2007 7:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 2990948)
Entire team = complete moronic

Legends ARE fine, as long as they don't pass over 600 stats (wobbuffet, Darkrai, Mew, or even Manaphy O_O which have really really really foolhardy movepool)

Slaking is different, it has Truant

Ubers aren't fine for people who really like playing the game and working hard to train their Pokemon, using ubers is like using Hypnosis and sleeping the entire team with Yanmega :\

Yup that is just dumb, and if you do that, you are a moron

Ichida October 19th, 2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasta likuid (Post 2988995)
ay pintensen tos pa la porra legends are the best...if you all say u are the best why couldn't u beat a legend team??ahj??tell me :P

Ignoring the gibberish... I have beaten legends. I've beaten hacked legendaries, even. I just don't like to.

Samuel.Olu October 19th, 2007 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2991439)
Ignoring the gibberish... I have beaten legends. I've beaten hacked legendaries, even. I just don't like to.

XD youve beaten hacked legendaries, a mewtwo with 999 spatk :P

Ichida October 19th, 2007 10:35 AM

Not that far, but I did beat a hacked shiny Regigigas, who didn't have Slow Start, and was spamming Sacred Fire on me.

Samuel.Olu October 19th, 2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2991459)
Not that far, but I did beat a hacked shiny Regigigas, who didn't have Slow Start, and was spamming Sacred Fire on me.

XD how much more obvious do you wanna be XD:P

Shiraishi October 19th, 2007 12:34 PM

Gah. I almost beat a Nuber team of Palkia/Groundon/Kyogre until Togekiss got critical hit Thundered by Kyogre(He survived before)

Jelo October 19th, 2007 2:20 PM

Yea OMG have u seen Youtube D/P or PKMN Battle Revolution Battle Videos? Noobs are all like, Ill pwn u with my Rayquaza and Groudon on comments

Ichida October 19th, 2007 7:35 PM

I've OHKOd at least seven Dialgas with the Heracross I stopped using, XD.

sims796 October 19th, 2007 7:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2991439)
Ignoring the gibberish... I have beaten legends. I've beaten hacked legendaries, even. I just don't like to.

Admit it! Smacking down uber noobs has a certain "guilty pleasure", so to speak. Like shooting blanks. Or politics. Or beating nubers.

Jelo October 19th, 2007 8:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2991439)
Ignoring the gibberish... I have beaten legends. I've beaten hacked legendaries, even. I just don't like to.

Thats because theyre noobs if they were skilled and EV Trained they would pwn sooooo bad

Faceless* October 24th, 2007 11:34 AM

Uxie = not Uber so it's okay to use

on the other hand Cresselia is always OVER Uxie but that's up to you

The worst n00b I came across was a player with Giratina. After using Shadow Ball on my Togekiss countless times thinking the attack missed, he disconnected intentionally 0_0

Ichida October 24th, 2007 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid nino (Post 3010070)
But my strongest is a luxray lvl 89.

If Luxray is your strongest Pokemon, you seriously need some work. XD.

Faceless* October 24th, 2007 11:58 AM

That's not a very ncie thing to say, but it is true,

MY OUTCLASSED POKEMON BOOK OF DOOM

Luxray<ElectivireManectric

That's the simple one.

Avolition October 24th, 2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasta likuid (Post 2988995)
ay pintensen tos pa la porra legends are the best...if you all say u are the best why couldn't u beat a legend team??ahj??tell me :P

And that, sir, is the type of person who uses ubers.

bluechu November 8th, 2007 4:35 PM

yeah, resently on wifi on PBR i have been seeing at least one dailga per team (one person had two..it was rediculus!) ever since my ruby i have been going with a strict no legendary policy in my teams, and even though i still dont full understand EV training, my pokemon come out pretty strong. the only legnedary i am using in one of my teams is Raikou, cause hes just so fancy! ^-^

Shinbo November 12th, 2007 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gyakutenno (Post 2585380)
You guys know what? People use ubers for a reason.

Not everyone has the patience to EV train or buy TM's and crap.

Not everyone feels like ogling at stats and natures.

Some people want to play the game.

Not everyone bought the game to do a lot of complicated math and stuff.

So stop saying whoever uses ubers are n00bs.

They're as much of pokemon players as any of you.

Actually that's really true, i faced off with a lot of uber poke' trainers nah..i always get fun with them, especially when i fight against a palkia/dialga, the battle get kinda challenging, and you learn something at the end, always.

Like planning better strategies. =3

Rita November 12th, 2007 8:07 PM

I always use just one legendary in my team... it makes it more fun for me.

SBaby November 15th, 2007 2:34 PM

I'll laugh when people start saying that Pokemon with high EV/IVs are ubers and start banning them. Then we'll see how many people complain about THAT.

I can empathize with what Gyakutenno said about people not having the patience to EV/IV up their Pokemon. This is especially true since the process to do that is tedious as hell. I mean, why couldn't they just do it the same way you do it in Disgaea? There, it was WAY easier because getting 180000 levels on a character there was alot faster than getting max EV/IVs on a Pokemon. I mean, yeah you do different things in each game, but at least in Disgaea if you screw it up you don't have to start back at square ****ing one! And you don't have to spend 8 hours farming enemies in each area. AND you had the Land of Carnage to power level your people to 9999. No kid is gonna have the patience to do either one of these, but at LEAST in Disgaea the process is way faster (plus Disgaea isn't aimed toward kids ANYWAY).

When you have to intentionally make a process that tedious just to make a game longer, it's called being a lazy programmer. And there's no excuse for it, unless you're making a MMORPG. Which if you are, then that's fine. But Pokemon ISN'T a MMORPG (at least, not the last time I checked).

Sorry for going so off topic, but it just gets me how hypocritical some people are. And yes, I probably spelled that word wrong. Yeah, I'm not a walking dictionary.

Shiraishi November 15th, 2007 2:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluechu (Post 3060948)
yeah, resently on wifi on PBR i have been seeing at least one dailga per team (one person had two..it was rediculus!) ever since my ruby i have been going with a strict no legendary policy in my teams, and even though i still dont full understand EV training, my pokemon come out pretty strong. the only legnedary i am using in one of my teams is Raikou, cause hes just so fancy! ^-^

Mkay, Raikou is fine because hes not uber. I use Cresselia and pretty much everyone is fine with that. Some OU pokes are pretty 'anti-uber' like Togekiss ^_^ he cripples the uber Sp sweepers with T-wave and then flinch haxes to death. I hate ubers but I don't think it's possible to regulate use as much =[

MasterDookie November 25th, 2007 11:03 AM

Well, what do you expect? They're n00bs that can't win a battle for their life. :/ Their strategy is "Use my strongest attack and see what happens!"

Anti December 1st, 2007 9:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiraishi (Post 3083606)
Mkay, Raikou is fine because hes not uber. I use Cresselia and pretty much everyone is fine with that. Some OU pokes are pretty 'anti-uber' like Togekiss ^_^ he cripples the uber Sp sweepers with T-wave and then flinch haxes to death. I hate ubers but I don't think it's possible to regulate use as much =[

Raikou is uber when I'm using it ;) lol jk

But meh, they're usually easy to beat anyways, so it's no big deal really. I've seen shock wave celebi before :0


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 4:12 AM.


Like our Facebook Page Follow us on Twitter © 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.

Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.