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~Mithos~ August 3rd, 2007 4:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jake 7
To all you people that say "I'm equal to to you",well then,try battling the rest of these trainers without your ubers, I will admit that I use a few ubers,but unlike you uber n00bs I know how to use them correctly. In contrast,most of you uber relying trainers use nothing but brute force.

Hear is a little test to see if you are a skilled,uber or not.
(questions with "*'s are uber related)
1.If you choose a fire type as your starter should you try and get a water type to fight the rock type gym...or is there another method?

*2.I have a palkia and kyorge and I use them for double battles,I thought my palkia thunder and 3 water type moves,why?

3.Why would I want a spiritomb with a jolly,naive,hasty,or timid nature as opposed to the rest?

4.If i wanted to EV train my pokemon what two things would it be helpful for my pokemon to have?

*6.What two types should Rayquaza avoid?

7.What makes the UNOWN more powerful than they seem?

8.What is the ONLY pokemon that can learn every move?

9.If i teach my pokemon solarbeam,what other move should i teach it?

10.I'm having a double battle,one of my pokemon is a fire type,
both of my opponents pokemon are water types,MY other pokemon is a togetic with a health restoring item attached. I chose this pokemon because of a move it can learn,what move is it?

If you can't answer ALL of these questions, then you are not a skillful trainer.

1. if you picked a fire type get mach punch for a super effective and maybe STAB attack.

2. because of kyogers drizzel which boosts water moves and ups the accuracy of thunder type attacks.

3. because those natures up its speed while lowering something else.

4. it would be helpful to have PKRS and machobrace/power items

5. you forgot five...

6. ice and dragon types.

7. hidden power?

8. mew and almost all the moves smeargle.

9. sunny day, although it's not nessisary.

10. it's definately grass knot why would you use a togetic instead of a togekiss.


on a side note- go somewhere else and to talk junk about random people you don't know weither we're good trainers or not.
maybe if you had more then 4 posts i'd listen to you.

Cornicapus August 4th, 2007 7:24 PM

I agree on banning ledgendary ubers but not the weak ledgendaries, I dont use my Ledgends in Wi-Fi, I just use em to train up my other pokemon.

Black Ice August 5th, 2007 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithos Kid (Post 2702902)
1. if you picked a fire type get mach punch for a super effective and maybe STAB attack.

First gym's Pokemon have high defenses. Just because it's supereffective doesn't mean that it'll faint the Pokemon in one hit.

2. because of kyogers drizzel which boosts water moves and ups the accuracy of thunder type attacks.

You shouldn't give Palkia more than 1 water-type move, no matter what. ;)

3. because those natures up its speed while lowering something else.

Spiritomb doesn't want them. If he wants to be a sweeper, then Modest is better.

4. it would be helpful to have PKRS and machobrace/power items

Decent IVs, correct nature, Pokerus, and Power items.

5. you forgot five...

6. ice and dragon types.

It doesn't have to avoid it. It's weak to Ice, Dragon and Rock.

7. hidden power?

Unown is still useless no matter what.

8. mew and almost all the moves smeargle.

Mew can't learn every move, lol :D

9. sunny day, although it's not nessisary.

Why not?

10. it's definately grass knot why would you use a togetic instead of a togekiss.

Depends on what Pokemon it is. =/

on a side note- go somewhere else and to talk junk about random people you don't know weither we're good trainers or not.
maybe if you had more then 4 posts i'd listen to you.

Postcount isn't everything ;)

That test was stupid.

~Mithos~ August 6th, 2007 4:07 AM

i'm not critizing you because of your post count, you must be new here (notes the low post count) and you probably don't even know who or what your even talking to.

and your right your test was stupid.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithos Kid/Black Dragon
. if you picked a fire type get mach punch for a super effective and maybe STAB attack.

First gym's Pokemon have high defenses. Just because it's supereffective doesn't mean that it'll faint the Pokemon in one hit.
so, using fighting moves on ground is stupid now? your wrong.

2. because of kyogers drizzel which boosts water moves and ups the accuracy of thunder type attacks.

You shouldn't give Palkia more than 1 water-type move, no matter what.

you idiot you asked me why, you didn't ask me if it was a good choice or not.


3. because those natures up its speed while lowering something else.

Spiritomb doesn't want them. If he wants to be a sweeper, then Modest is better.

fine then, don't pay attention to spiritomb

4. it would be helpful to have PKRS and machobrace/power items

Decent IVs, correct nature, Pokerus, and Power items.

once again, you said two things smarty

5. you forgot five...

6. ice and dragon types.

It doesn't have to avoid it. It's weak to Ice, Dragon and Rock.

you asked what it has to avoid! your questions are stupid, you worded them wrong for the comments your giving me back.


7. hidden power?

Unown is still useless no matter what.

you asked what was useful? what should I say nothing?

8. mew and almost all the moves smeargle.

Mew can't learn every move, lol

every TM and metranome? idiot.

9. sunny day, although it's not nessisary.

Why not?

because using sunny day then solarbeam, unless you are using solar beam over and over again (which means your opponents team isn't ballanced) takes the same ammount of turns.

10. it's definately grass knot why would you use a togetic instead of a togekiss.

Depends on what Pokemon it is. =/

so that is still right.

on a side note- go somewhere else and to talk junk about random people you don't know weither we're good trainers or not.
maybe if you had more then 4 posts i'd listen to you.


Black Ice August 6th, 2007 8:43 AM

I didn't make the test. The way I read it made it seem like you think I did.

"you idiot you asked me why, you didn't ask me if it was a good choice or not."

1) I thought he used Rock-types :(
2) He asked why you should use 3 Water-type moves, and you shouldn't.
3) No comment
4) But there are 4 things you should have before EV-training. :)
6) Once again, I didn't make this test. >>
7) Once again, I didn't make this test. >>
8) I thought 'learn' was permanent.
9) You don't have to use Solarbeam over and over again. After you use Sunny Day, you can still use other moves. If you charge your Solarbeam, then the opponent can just switch into something like Blissey and wall it and recover from it.
10) Second type? Weight?

~Mithos~ August 6th, 2007 8:47 AM

oh i'm sorry and i'm not sorry, if you didn't make the test you can't critize me for it. geez. for like 5 of those the first time you called me stupid then the second time you said you didn't make the thread, either way it's not your job to judge a test somebody else told me to take.

Black Ice August 6th, 2007 9:12 AM

I never called you stupid.

~Mithos~ August 6th, 2007 9:23 AM

i know this sounds dumb, but it was kind of implied.

EDIT: when you find a way around every answer I give, you obviously don't like me for some reasons unknown.

Black Ice August 6th, 2007 9:40 AM

I only used your post because yours was the only one on this page and I couldn't find the original post with the test somehow.

And I'm just sayin' what I think. We both obviously don't think alike.

I think we're spamming. D= Let's stop here.

chibi August 6th, 2007 9:52 AM

I respect the kids who get killed 3:0 to me with normal pokemon more than the kids who can beat me with Dialga, Palkia and Heatran... hate them.

Faceless* August 6th, 2007 1:09 PM

Why not let the n00bs use ubers against you? Beat the lazy kids, make them cry even more...

Reminds me of the battle when a Giratina used Slash on my Gengar, and when a Darkrai (go figure.. :\) used Quick Attack on my Rhyperior XD

Alex_ August 6th, 2007 1:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nameless111 (Post 2718908)
Why not let the n00bs use ubers against you? Beat the lazy kids, make them cry even more...

Reminds me of the battle when a Giratina used Slash on my Gengar, and when a Darkrai (go figure.. :\) used Quick Attack on my Rhyperior XD

They are called ubers for a reason. They're (some at least) are hard/annoying to beat, even with a good non-uber team. It makes me so mad when I find a team full of ubers. If I get Spacial Rend'd again I will pull my hair out.

Jack 7 August 16th, 2007 8:58 PM

the last questions awnser :

Togitic can learn a move called follow me,which makes opponent pokemon in battle attack the only the user user,therefore my fire pokemon won't be hit by water type moves,don't tell ME that I don't know what I'm talking about. The test was meant to be stupid because nubers are stupid and you shouldn't have a problem with it unless you are a nuber. It was a joke. It was supposed to be stupid.

The test was meant to make uber users look like retards.

The point that I was trying to make was uber reliers are stupid.
Not to mention ,I was basing it of my experiences,Ive used nothing but fire type starters for every pokemon game and I don't seem to have a problem with the rock type gyms.

Also I did have an account that had a much higher post count but it must have been deleted because it was inactive for a year or so.

Ps. Don't mock my post count or knowledge if you can't even get my name right: jake 7 WTF?

El Diabeetus August 16th, 2007 11:31 PM

Last Night I fought a Japanese dude who's name was;

Myuutsu- (Mewtwo) In Katakana

He had 2 Mewtwo's, 2 Kyogre's, 1 Rayquaza and 1 Palkia.

I got the crap beat out of because he used both mewtwo's out.

Also my whole team is Ev trained.

Rebellious Treecko August 16th, 2007 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu (Post 2585380)
You guys know what? People use ubers for a reason.

Not everyone has the patience to EV train or buy TM's and crap.

Not everyone feels like ogling at stats and natures.

Some people want to play the game.

Not everyone bought the game to do a lot of complicated math and stuff.

So stop saying whoever uses ubers are n00bs.

They're as much of pokemon players as any of you.

^This post wins the thread.

If you people hate ubers so much, then why don't you go over to GameFreak and tell them to wipe every single legendary out of existance?
They're not the same thing.

I for one EV train my Pokemon, AND I have lots of legends in my party.

Ichida August 17th, 2007 6:32 PM

Because legendaries are trophies to make weak kids think they've got skills. Their only real practical use is exploding the Elite Four so you can start Pal Parking.

sims796 August 17th, 2007 7:03 PM

I can't agree commpletley with that statement made by Ichida. I'm not wasting my time finding an uber just so it could sit in my box. However, we can both agree that if you need an uber to make a team, thats pretty damn sad. Ubers belong on UBER teams. Not standard teams. Only a rookie needs to rely on ubers, just like rookies rely on OHKO moves. A kid is proud that his Kyorge KOed my Gyarados with Sheer Cold? Absolutely pathetic.

Ichida August 17th, 2007 9:32 PM

People who engage in uber battles are like alcoholics who drink together. They think that just because they both do it, it's publicly acceptable, even though the smart people know they're just deluding themselves. It's like a fight in Dragon Ball. It's explosive, doesn't require effort to weave together, and it pisses nearby people off.

sims796 August 17th, 2007 9:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2769432)
People who engage in uber battles are like alcoholics who drink together. They think that just because they both do it, it's publicly acceptable, even though the smart people know they're just deluding themselves. It's like a fight in Dragon Ball. It's explosive, doesn't require effort to weave together, and it pisses nearby people off.

That was hilarious, and wins the award for best quick, off-the-top response for the month. If they wanna have an uber battle, let them. I could care less. I don't partake. Ubers, well, I don't bother with. But we can both agree that if you need one to make a sucsessful team, you should put down your poke balls.

Smarties-chan August 18th, 2007 12:44 AM

I agree with Eternal Smasher and Yoshimitsu. I myself am a competitive battler and wouldn't even think about using Ubers outside their own metagame. Let's not forget that most Pokémon players aren't competitive battlers and thus don't know about tiers or EVs, Natures and IVs for that matter. As long as you don't run into a team of EV trained Ubers a good EV trained team should be able to take care of them. Un-EV trained Ubers are a piece of cake for any good player so I don't see why it's such a big deal if some random clueless people use Ubers; at least they'll be able to put up some kind of a fight that way. And no, I don't own PBR (it isn't even out in Europe and I don't have a Wii to begin with) myself, but I've seen enough videos to know that most of these n00bs have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2768680)
Because legendaries are trophies to make weak kids think they've got skills. Their only real practical use is exploding the Elite Four so you can start Pal Parking.

Legendaries =/= Ubers. Normal legendaries (such as Entei, Articuno, Zapdos, Mesprit etc.) require as much skill as any normal Pokémon and Uber battles are a hell of a lot of fun as long as you stick to their own metagame.

Pokémaster7293 August 18th, 2007 5:47 AM

Well, for one thing in this topic people were talking about, you know when your stat is maxed out, when one of those vitamins won't work, and you haven't already used 10 of 'em. That's what I do. I save before hand. If it works, I reset.

As for the other thing, I really didn't EV train until recently (EVing for Speed now, Hasty Pichu), and I stopped using Ubers a good time ago.

I don't have PBR, or even a Wii myself, but hey, when that time comes, I won't need ubers, because I've got my OWN skill.

Yes, Yes, I know, 99% of this post is just repeating info... but hey, it's my two cents.

sims796 August 18th, 2007 8:23 AM

2 thigns. First, Ichida, can I sticky that response? And I agree with Smarties. As the title says, Nubers are still noobs, with or without ubers.

Ichida August 18th, 2007 8:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2771143)
Ichida, can I sticky that response?

Er, sure, XDD. You mean put it in your sig like I did? :P

sims796 August 19th, 2007 10:55 AM

To me, uber battles, OU/UU battles, are like regular, outside fights. Think of it like this:

UU:Knives
OU:Guns
Uber:Tanks

A OU fight is like a gun fight. Fierce & Fun. UU vs OU are like knives vs gun. Seemingly one-sided, but do-able, with skill. But no matter how much skill you have, a well trained OU/UU ain't beating a well trained uber, like Guns/Knives vs Tanks. Exect for noob ubers, which are always fun to watch lose.

Uber battles are fun, but ubers are so strong, they have no place outside of their own meta-game. Like Smarties-kun said.

FarmerNobir August 30th, 2007 6:33 PM

Ubers cant touch me
 
No matter how much EVs and nature compatibility a trainer has Kygore can't beat my Miltoc in a beauty contest.


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