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haffeysucks July 5th, 2007 11:51 AM

Wild vs. Trained
 
Okay, first, read my whole post before you go "Trained is obviously better, n00b!!!11!"

A friend and I have a debate. We were talking about my Garchomp, and he asked me why I didn't breed for the Adamant nature instead of just taking the lvl. 15 Gible I caught first.

I asked him why, because the way I see it, the only advantage a trained Gible has over a wild Gible of the same nature is EV points. And I EVed my Gible anyway.

So my question is: Does a Pokemon that is caught at level 15, then trained (with EVs) to a specific level differ from one that is selectively bred (with the same nature), then trained (with EVs as well) to the same level as the wild one was?

(Leave DVs and Egg Moves out of the discussion, they're not what I'm asking about)

Thanks.

Aymundo July 5th, 2007 12:02 PM

they are all differnt its something about iv's so no two pokemon are the same but i mostly catch all my pokemon in the wild unless i need to breed them e.g. there rare or u can only get one

diamondpearl876 July 5th, 2007 12:06 PM

If you breed it to level 1, and start EV training it right away, it might change something if you're going to the same level. Then, the other one is level 15.. x.x That's 15 more levels of EV training added on to the breeded Gible.

If they're both maxed out by the time you get to that level, then it'd just be IVs I guess.

I'm not a real expert on this..

Aymundo July 5th, 2007 12:11 PM

no coz the evs even them self out so even if u eve train at lvl one or lvl 99 ull get them same

Eureka1 July 5th, 2007 12:28 PM

i raise all my pokemon from eggs.. so i don't know :x

i guess wild though, as they'd have 0 evs

Dawg 2005 July 5th, 2007 4:45 PM

I would say the hatched ones would be better, since that's more EV training you can get in, but they both start at 0 either way.

AztecSunshine July 5th, 2007 5:53 PM

they are the same the only diff is about lv a lv15 gible well take more time to ev train cuz i has te extra 15 lv but if you breeded one you well get it to lv 15 and it well take less time to ev but it's the same exept for high lv's like a lv50 garyados or a lv37 gastrodon

Paranoia July 5th, 2007 6:25 PM

Yes, They are a lot better, as if you selectively breed you are mainly breeding for IVs, which you want maxed out but most breeders get 25 or greater. And a max EVs in speed with a + speed nature, and perfect IVs will outrun any other garchomp.

haffeysucks July 5th, 2007 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoia (Post 2590277)
Yes, They are a lot better, as if you selectively breed you are mainly breeding for IVs, which you want maxed out but most breeders get 25 or greater. And a max EVs in speed with a + speed nature, and perfect IVs will outrun any other garchomp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haffeysucks (Post 2588804)
(Leave DVs and Egg Moves out of the discussion, they're not what I'm asking about)



Please note the quoted text. Thanks.

Paranoia July 5th, 2007 6:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haffeysucks (Post 2590285)
Please note the quoted text. Thanks.

IVs is what makes a pokemon different. But if they had exactly the same EVs, same nature, and exact same IVs in one stat, then there is no difference between the two.

(Btw DVs refer to ability and nature)

Um also, how can you not talk about IVs when they are what makes a pokemon different.

haffeysucks July 6th, 2007 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoia (Post 2590296)
IVs is what makes a pokemon different. But if they had exactly the same EVs, same nature, and exact same IVs in one stat, then there is no difference between the two.

(Btw DVs refer to ability and nature)

Um also, how can you not talk about IVs when they are what makes a pokemon different.

Because if I wanted to spend weeks breeding for perfect IVs, then I would. But I don't have that kind of time. So I don't even worry about IVs.

Mizer July 6th, 2007 8:14 PM

Hatched Ones, the EVs will mature into stat points maybe a +1 or +2 instead of a +0 or +1


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