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Pikachu.exe July 5th, 2007 3:34 PM

A Beginner in Competitive Battling
 
I am new to competitive battling, and I would like some help to do teams. Can someone help me?

The Pokémon I use in the Battle Tower are:

[email protected] Belt
Nature: Docile
-Swords Dance
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Night Slash

[email protected]
Nature: (forgot nature)
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Crunch
-Ice Fang

[email protected] Berry
Nature: (forgot nature)
-Zen Headbutt
-Fire Fang
-Dragon Claw
-Fly

What do you think about them?
I also would like suggestions on natures and good pokémon and movesets to have. I'm thinking in training a Roserade and a Garchomp. Please, help me.

MegaDitto July 5th, 2007 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikachu.exe (Post 2589685)
I am new to competitive battling, and I would like some help to do teams. Can someone help me?

The Pokémon I use in the Battle Tower are:

[email protected] Belt
Nature: Docile Adamant or Jolly
-Swords Dance
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Night Slash

[email protected]
Nature: (forgot nature) Adamant or Jolly
-Waterfall
-Water Jet
-Crunch
-Ice Fang

[email protected] Berry
Nature: (forgot nature)
-Zen Headbutt
-Fire Fang
-Dragon Claw
-Fly
No Dragon Dance, eh?
What do you think about them?
I also would like suggestions on natures and good pokémon and movesets to have. I'm thinking in training a Roserade and a Garchomp. Please, help me.

Natures and EV's are important. Post them. But first, are you aware of what EV's are?

Pikachu.exe July 5th, 2007 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleach and Sunshine (Post 2589698)
Natures and EV's are important. Post them. But first, are you aware of what EV's are?

No, I understand what they are. But they aren't EV-trained. So, their EVs are unknown to me.

Iceman3k July 5th, 2007 3:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikachu.exe (Post 2589685)
I am new to competitive battling, and I would like some help to do teams. Can someone help me?

The Pokémon I use in the Battle Tower are:

[email protected] Belt
Nature: Jolly
-Swords Dance
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Night Slash
Needs Jolly Nature hands down.

[email protected]Life Orb / Choice Band
Nature: Jolly
-Waterfall
-Water Jet (I hope you mean Aqua Jet)
-Crunch
-Ice Fang
Looks Fine. Jolly Nature is what it wants.

[email protected]Leftovers
Nature: Naughty
-Dragon Dance
-Fire Blast
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake

What do you think about them?
I also would like suggestions on natures and good pokémon and movesets to have. I'm thinking in training a Roserade and a Garchomp. Please, help me.

Even for the Battle Tower, your team is far too Physical. I wouldn't be surprised if something like Miltank or Skarmory impeded your path. A good Special Sweeper like Kingdra, Alakazam, or Porygon-Z should do good for you.

sims796 July 5th, 2007 4:25 PM

Bleach & Iceman, why are you allowing him to get awawy wis Water-I mean Aqua Jet? On such a speedy Pokemon, that move is useless. Plus, he had two ofensive water move. Iceman, you taught me thats a bad idea.

Now, I don't use Floatzel, so I can't help much. But even I can tell you that Wa-Aqua Jet,sorry-is pretty much useless, with spped like that. Instead, how about Rain Dance, to further boost speed? Or maybe Substitute. I don't know, I don't use Floatzel.

Pikachu.exe July 11th, 2007 3:29 AM

OK. So, tell me good Special Sweepers, movesets and natures, please.

c_dog July 11th, 2007 3:47 AM

Here's a popular one

[email protected] Sludge
Levitate
Timid Nature
252speed 252sp.att 6hp
-tbolt
-ice beam
-giga drain
-hypnosis/destiny bond

no shadow ball for type coverage. bolt beam hits everything hard and giga drain takes care of those that are boltbeam resistant, and even refills your hp when you need it. destiny bond and hypnosis come in handy at times. i've seen ones with shadowball/focus blast/energyball but i like this one better.

sanjay120 July 11th, 2007 5:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2589813)
On such a speedy Pokemon, that move is useless....

...Instead, how about Rain Dance, to further boost speed?

I lol'd.

Use Alakazam @ Choice Specs, 252 SAttk/252 SPd/6 HP, Trick/Focus Blast/Shadow Ball/Psychic.

Pikachu.exe July 11th, 2007 4:42 PM

I'm EV-training a Gengar, but I didn't finished yey. What do you think of it?

Gengar @ ?
Nature: Modest
EVs: 224 Special Attack, 100 Speed (planning on 252 Sp. Atk and 252 Speed, 6 HP)
-Dark Pulse
-Shadow Ball
-Confuse Ray
-Hypnosis

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanjay120 (Post 2612542)
I lol'd.

Use Alakazam @ Choice Specs, 252 SAttk/252 SPd/6 HP, Trick/Focus Blast/Shadow Ball/Psychic.

What's the nature for it? And where can I found the TM Focus Blast?

Syaoran July 11th, 2007 5:51 PM

Try this moveset for a S.atk Gengar:

Hidden Power [Fight] / Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Will-O-Wisp
Confuse Ray / Haze / Thunderbolt

Hidden Power [Fight] is more reliable than Focus Blast, but getting the right IV's could be a pain.
There's no point in having both Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse since both are effective on the same types (ghost, psychic) so the STAB from Shadow Ball is why you should have it.

sanjay120 July 12th, 2007 4:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikachu.exe (Post 2614528)
What's the nature for it? And where can I found the TM Focus Blast?

Modest or Timid. Modest 2HKOs Blissey, Timid is only sometimes a 2HKO but you have Trick for that and you'll need the speed.

Pikachu.exe July 12th, 2007 5:48 AM

Which item should I give Gengar (using Syaoran's moveset)?

EDIT: And with Salamence, is Adamant nature OK? And using Flamethrower instead of Fire Blast?
And, what would be a good moveset for Roserade?

sanjay120 July 12th, 2007 1:05 PM

Gengar should have Black Sludge, Leftovers, or Life Orb.

Pikachu.exe July 13th, 2007 3:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanjay120 (Post 2617884)
Gengar should have Black Sludge, Leftovers, or Life Orb.

Thanks.

And with Salamence, is Adamant nature OK? And using Flamethrower instead of Fire Blast?

With Gengar (and without Floatzel), is my team good for the Battle Tower?

sanjay120 July 13th, 2007 3:36 AM

Adamant Mence is fine, and Flamethrower is good. Your team should be ok.

Pikachu.exe July 13th, 2007 3:44 AM

And what EVs should I give to Salamence?

williamsiner July 13th, 2007 10:18 AM

i used mostly my shiny pokemon :)

Pikachu.exe July 17th, 2007 3:40 PM

What would be a good moveset for a modest Empoleon?

Angelic Diablo July 17th, 2007 4:17 PM

Pure Sweeper
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot
-Flash Cannon/Agility

Sweeper/Support
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Yawn
-Protect

Pikachu.exe July 17th, 2007 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 2636599)
Pure Sweeper
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot
-Flash Cannon/Agility

Sweeper/Support
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Yawn
-Protect

Is any of these an egg move? Because I'm planning on using my shiny Piplup whose nature is modest.

Chompah :x July 17th, 2007 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikachu.exe (Post 2636659)
Is any of these an egg move? Because I'm planning on using my shiny Piplup whose nature is modest.

The first set has no egg moves.
I don't think.

Angelic Diablo July 17th, 2007 4:45 PM

Yawn and Agility are the egg moves

The other moves are TMs or HMs (in the case of Surf)

Pikachu.exe July 18th, 2007 3:33 AM

How can I get Aromatherapy on Blissey?

anemos July 18th, 2007 3:49 AM

It is an egg move, i thik you get it off roslia or meganium.

Pikachu.exe July 19th, 2007 3:38 AM

What pokémon should I add to my team? I want to battle in the Wi-Fi. And what EVs should I give to this Salamence?

[email protected] ?
Nature: Adamant
-Dragon Dance
-Fire Fang/Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake

anemos July 19th, 2007 4:39 AM

use fire fang, give it 252 speed, 252 attack, 4 somewhere else. since salemnce is getting easier and easier to counter, give choice scarf. this takes some decent prediction if you want to keep it out for more then one turn though

Pikachu.exe July 19th, 2007 4:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anemos (Post 2642664)
choice scarf. this takes some decent prediction if you want to keep it out for more then one turn though

Does Choice Scarf allows using Dragon Dance then for example Dragon Claw? Or if use Dragon Dance I need to use Dragon Dance until I switch out? And where can I get Choice Scarf?

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What's a good moveset for Milotic?
I'm thinking of this:

[email protected] ?
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hypnosis
-Recover

Is it a good moveset?

Sorry for double posting, but... May someone answer please? I just want to have my first team so I can battle using Wi-Fi.

Angelic Diablo July 19th, 2007 6:09 PM

Never use a status move on a choice set, so no you can't use choice scarf with a DDmence

As for Milotic, it is fine, except your EVs are for a Sweeper yet your moveset is for a Sweeper/Wall.

anemos July 20th, 2007 3:02 AM

I never said i was going with dragon dance. i'm realy not gonna do it.
choice scarf boosts speed, you can only use 1 move until switching.

Angelic Diablo July 20th, 2007 3:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikachu.exe
[email protected] ?
Nature: Adamant
-Dragon Dance
-Fire Fang/Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake

Quote:

Originally Posted by anemos
use fire fang, give it 252 speed, 252 attack, 4 somewhere else. since salemnce is getting easier and easier to counter, give choice scarf. this takes some decent prediction if you want to keep it out for more then one turn though

That's why I said no to choice scarf, you didn't tell him to remove Dragon Dance, but you told him to add a Choice Scarf... therefore he would fail to be able to DD properly

anemos July 20th, 2007 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 2646728)
That's why I said no to choice scarf, you didn't tell him to remove Dragon Dance, but you told him to add a Choice Scarf... therefore he would fail to be able to DD properly

sorry for the syntax problem then. =/

Pikachu.exe July 21st, 2007 5:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 2645689)
As for Milotic, it is fine, except your EVs are for a Sweeper yet your moveset is for a Sweeper/Wall.

So what EVs should I give him?


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