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Craig² July 5th, 2007 11:55 PM

My Team- Please Rate! <3
 
Eh heh. These are the 'pokes I use the most. I <3 'em all. I just imported my best ones from Ruby and Sapphire. Please rate nicely. x3


Kyogre, lv. 100
1. Sheer Cold (OHKO)
2. Water Spout
3. Hydro Pump
4. Surf (lol)

Rayquaza, lv. 80
1. Extremespeed
2. Dragon Claw
3. Dragon Pulse
4. Fly

Groudon, lv. 55
1. Slash
2. Earthquake
3. Fire Blast
4. Rock Climb

Palkia, lv. 55
1. Water Pulse
2. Heal Block
3. Dragon Claw
4. Spacial Rend

Uxie, lv. 51
1. Confusion
2. Extrasensory
3. Future Sight
4. Amnesia

Torterra, lv. 70
1. Strength
2. Earthquake
3. Leaf Storm
4. Razor Leaf

I know they need some work (aside from Kyogre), but can you please rate them fairly? Thanks! I know they're not all lv. 100, but they're actually strong.

R.A.M. July 6th, 2007 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardust-Kumo (Post 2591169)
Eh heh. These are the 'pokes I use the most. I <3 'em all. I just imported my best ones from Ruby and Sapphire. Please rate nicely. x3


Kyogre, lv. 100
1. Ice Beam
2. Water Spout
3. Hydro Pump
4. Thunder

Rayquaza, lv. 80
1. Extremespeed
2. Dragon Claw
3. Dragon Pulse
4. Fly

Groudon, lv. 55
1. Dragon Claw
2. Earthquake
3. Fire Blast
4. Solarbeam

Palkia, lv. 55
1. Surf
2. Heal Block/Earth Power(Lv. 60)
3. Dragon Pulse
4. Spacial Rend

Uxie, lv. 51
1. Thunderbolt
2. Extrasensory
3. Psychic
4. Amnesia

Torterra, lv. 70
1. Stone edge
2. Earthquake
3. Wood Hammer
4. Synthesis/Crunch

I know they need some work (aside from Kyogre), but can you please rate them fairly? Thanks! I know they're not all lv. 100, but they're actually strong.

That's what I think...I give a 7/10 to your current team(a special sweeper Torterra lowers your points)

Nightofshadow July 6th, 2007 4:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardust-Kumo (Post 2591169)
Eh heh. These are the 'pokes I use the most. I <3 'em all. I just imported my best ones from Ruby and Sapphire. Please rate nicely. x3


Kyogre, lv. 100
1. Sheer Cold (OHKO)/Calm mind
2. Water Spout/surf
3. Hydro Pump/Thunder
4. Surf (lol)/Ice beam

No way. Your move list was all over the place and had little to no Type coverage whatsoever. This gives you coverage for MANY of the things your going to run up against.

Rayquaza, lv. 80
1. Extremespeed/Dragon dance
2. Dragon Claw/Outrage
3. Dragon Pulse/Extremespeed
4. Fly/Something other than fly =\

Fly is a horrible attacking move, I dont suggest it. maybe earthquake would be alot better on him:V


Groudon, lv. 55
1. Slash/Solar beam
2. Earthquake
3. Fire Blast
4. Rock Climb/Stone edge?

no no no no Never use Hm moves other than waterfall or surf The move list given to you is to accompany his ability to bring forth sunny day. Couldnt really think of anything for the last slot so i just tossed something in there.

Palkia, lv. 55
1. Water PulseThunder
2. Heal Block/surf
3. Dragon Claw
4. Spacial Rend

Combos with Kyogre(Even though you dont want kyogree and groudon on the same team, But this isnt my team =\


Uxie, lv. 51
1. Confusion/Psychic
2. Extrasensory/U-turn
3. Future Sight/Stealth rock
4. Amnesia/Thunderbolt/Calm mind

Uxie has good defenses and should be used like that...

Torterra, lv. 70
1. Strength/seed bomb
2. Earthquake
3. Leaf Storm/Stone edge/
4. Razor Leaf/Synthesis
Pretty simple set. Works well with Groudon because of the sunny day ability.
I know they need some work (aside from Kyogre), but can you please rate them fairly? Thanks! I know they're not all lv. 100, but they're actually strong.



All of my changes are in bold.... And yes there were ALOT of changes. I dont think i could "fairly" rate your team because it might be offensive. Sorry =\

beauty. proletariat July 6th, 2007 5:08 AM

The other pokemon look fine to me
thanks to Night of shadow and RAM...

I like this Kyogre better though:

Kyogre w/ Drizzle
252 SP ATK, 252 SPD, 4 DEF <--- I dont think my EVs are good though
Thunder (100% hit, unless other weather kicks in)
Ice Beam
Ancient Power
Calm Mind

Shiraishi July 6th, 2007 8:19 AM

Helping ppl who use ubers is going to give me bad dreams :(

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 6th, 2007 8:23 AM

dude using super pokemon isnt kewl man get rid of kyogres for milotics and groudons for rhyperiors ohko attacks are worthless becuae of their low accuracy thresholds saem with that hydro pump on kyogre get rid of it for surf i know its a hm but surf is more accurate and it has 95 power u must use logic in battling not power

sims796 July 6th, 2007 8:35 AM

I didn't understand a single word ya said, Pocket. Here's my Torterra

Torterra-Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Earthquake
Synthesis/Leech Seed

There. If you use Wood Hammer, then keep Synthesis (recoil damge n' all). Otherwise, Torterra makes an effective tank. Notice I just combined Nightofshadow & R.A.M's set with my little twist.

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 6th, 2007 8:39 AM

yes impish nature means better def but lower sp attack but theirs not reli any need for synthese my lv 100 torterra is an adamant nature and physical sweeper it has wood hammer for stab, super power, stone edge and earthquake for stab, i made it hold a choice band i recomend you teach it rock polish or curse to rase it performace as a physical wall after 2 curses ur torterra will be almost indestructable but watch out for ice attack they cause an ouch

sims796 July 6th, 2007 8:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocket Monster Researcher Archer (Post 2592486)
yes impish nature means better def but lower sp attack but theirs not reli any need for synthese my lv 100 torterra is an adamant nature and physical sweeper it has wood hammer for stab, super power, stone edge and earthquake for stab, i made it hold a choice band i recomend you teach it rock polish or curse to rase it performace as a physical wall after 2 curses ur torterra will be almost indestructable but watch out for ice attack they cause an ouch

Look, you have to put periods. Thats not a bad set either.

One problem, though. You said Impish lowers Torterra's sp.att like thats a bad thing. He has no place doing any sort of sp.att move.

What you just described is a physical sweeper Torterra, another good choice. I desribed a physical tank Torterra, which is more defensive. Both are fine.

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 6th, 2007 8:50 AM

yeah i agree with you i find that torterra is brilliant as a physical wall and sweeper but the impish i mean that it lowers sp attk which is good because torterra is somewaht limited as a sp sweeper i recomend the curse thou for the increase in def its a shame torterra cant learn avalanche becuase its speed stat is lax

Craig² July 6th, 2007 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocket Monster Researcher Archer (Post 2592431)
dude using super pokemon isnt kewl man get rid of kyogres for milotics and groudons for rhyperiors ohko attacks are worthless becuae of their low accuracy thresholds saem with that hydro pump on kyogre get rid of it for surf i know its a hm but surf is more accurate and it has 95 power u must use logic in battling not power


Um...I can't understand any of what you said, except the first sentence.

Why would I get rid of my Kyogre just because some people think that it isn't, as you vaugely put it, 'kewl'. And, OHKO do have low accuracy rates, but still; they're OHKO. It sounds like you're asking me to train a Bidoof to lv.100. :cross-eye Besides, wether the pokemon are ubers or not doesn't make much of a difference, IMO. And Cakekun, you said helping people who use ubers is giving me a bad dream. Just saying, but you're not helping anyway, so you don't have to worry about bad dreams. And, I don't see how using ubers is bad? I fought hard to catch them, and now, I am going to use them. They're accomplishments to me, and I aknowledge those acheivements by training them.

Oh and thanks for the ratings. Even the constructive critisisim is good, because I have a lot to learn, obviously. :)

All use all of the helpful tips next time a train. :)

sims796 July 6th, 2007 12:54 PM

Hold up, one second here. The reason he said that cause Kyogre is an uber (as far as I couuld tell, I couldn't understand either) and ubers aren't welcome in regular, standard, competitive play. You can use 'em in an uber team, but don't expect to battle much people with it. They most likley won't accept.

As for OHKO moves, trust me, you don't want it. 30 accuracy is not good. While you miss, I'll simply charge up, or wipe you out. Its all a bad game of chance, and in pokemon, chance should be relied on as little as possible to win a battle. Stay away from unecessary gambles.

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 6th, 2007 12:55 PM

what i was saying id super pokemon arnt very good as u cannot use them in say the battle tower. yeah an OHKO is an OHKO but their is a 70% chance they will miss and that could cost u the battle for e.g kyogre used sheer cold it missed too bad. the foe pikachu used thunder with 100% accuracy with rain and scored a CH kyogre was defeated.. i wsnt the one who sed helping oobers will give me nitemares lol darkrai does that on its own lol..... im just giving advice out about ur pkmn yeah i respect that point about they were hard to catch so ur going to rase them ....

sims796 July 6th, 2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocket Monster Researcher Archer (Post 2593683)
what i was saying id super pokemon arnt very good as u cannot use them in say the battle tower. yeah an OHKO is an OHKO but their is a 70% chance they will miss and that could cost u the battle for e.g kyogre used sheer cold it missed too bad. the foe pikachu used thunder with 100% accuracy with rain and scored a CH kyogre was defeated.. i wsnt the one who sed helping oobers will give me nitemares lol darkrai does that on its own lol..... im just giving advice out about ur pkmn yeah i respect that point about they were hard to catch so ur going to rase them ....

Look, seriously now. No one can understand a word you write. Take your time, put periods, and use proper grammer, please.

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 6th, 2007 1:06 PM

DAMN IT CANT U PPL READ ...... basicly...... get rid of that sheer cold for ice beam. with a 70% chance of missing, sheer cold is bad. theirs a chance that not a single one out of the 5pp it has will hit.

also..... can u still keep up? hydro pump is powerful, yes
but not accurate. remove that for surf because it is a better, all round sweeper attack with a 95 threshold and it is 100% accurate unless ur foe uses moves which enhance their evasion or lower ur accuracy just advice children

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 6th, 2007 1:21 PM

your palkia is good. what is its nature, i recomend this move pool....

surf
dragon pulse
earth power
aura sphere

Craig² July 6th, 2007 1:30 PM

My Palkia has a modest nature. Is that good? I was never good at the whole natures thing. ^-^;

Incase it makes a diff., here's my Palkia's stats:

Attack: 136
Defense: 124
Sp. Def: 190
Sp. Attack: 149
Speed: 126

Obviously, he hasn't been EV trained; yet. ^___^;

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 6th, 2007 1:35 PM

thats good, my palika is lv 100 modest nature and has those moves i suggested before i has 386 sp attk =] . yeah give evs to its sp attk and its speed it is an awsome sp sweeper its not bad as a physical sweeper too

aqua tail / waterfall
dragon claw
earthquake
stone edge

make sure u have the lustrious orb

Shiraishi July 6th, 2007 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2583696)
Legendaries are really only there as rewards for completing story arcs. <.<;

The only type of battles you can do with ubers is a friend code match with 1. Someone who has a uber team in addition to their normal team 2. Someone whos normal team can actually beat ubers and 3. Some kid who thinks their tough because they use ubers. Im saying this because I(and the majority of trainers)dont want to see uber teams everywhere on wi-fi battles. This is a chance for me to stop 1 of those teams. Btw ubers are not hard to catch, a chatot A CHATOT has the same catch rate as dialga/palkia...according to a post.

Craig² July 6th, 2007 8:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2595172)
The only type of battles you can do with ubers is a friend code match with 1. Someone who has a uber team in addition to their normal team 2. Someone whos normal team can actually beat ubers and 3. Some kid who thinks their tough because they use ubers. Im saying this because I(and the majority of trainers)dont want to see uber teams everywhere on wi-fi battles. This is a chance for me to stop 1 of those teams. Btw ubers are not hard to catch, a chatot A CHATOT has the same catch rate as dialga/palkia...according to a post.



FYI, I have an alternate team that I use for Wi-Fi battles. I don't think I'm tough just because I have ubers. I know that, with a good moveset, a level 100 Bidoof could savagely KO my Rayquaza. And, how is this a chance for you to stop my 'uber team'? I'm keeping my team despite what people may say. Okay, uber's may not be too difficult to catch, but I can honestly say my Rayquaza gave me trouble, which was enough for me to train him. And, you say a Chatot has the same catch rate as an uber, according to a post? Tell me that once you've got a more reliable source, because, and I'm sure you'll agree, some posts do not carry legitimate information.

Besides, saying that doesn't really effect the other ubers. Diagla and Palkia are the easiest legendaries to catch in my mind, so maybe a Chatot does have the same catch rate. However, I'm sure it doesn't have the same CR when compared to the numerous other ubers and legendaries out there.

Nightofshadow July 6th, 2007 8:24 PM

Well, If you want some help with your team indepth, You can pm me if you like. Just extending a helping hand

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer July 7th, 2007 1:44 AM

yes i agree with you all, except that Ichida guy. ledgends are not prizes for completing an event. they are their to use. i do not use ledgends myself, but if you trainers want to use them, then theirs is no reason you cant.


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