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awkwardsilencer May 21st, 2004 4:45 PM

Most powerful attack
 
ok Now! this isnt for the attack you like most, but what is the best attack in the game?

Frostweaver May 21st, 2004 6:43 PM

it all depends on the Pokemon itself. Just like how earthquake is the absolute best attack a Dugtrio can get, it's one of the most crappy attack possible for a Kyogre (when Kyogre can get water spout/hydro pump... eww...)

lil' jose May 21st, 2004 6:46 PM

I personnaly think that Fury Cutter is if you use it right.

Intuition May 22nd, 2004 2:47 AM

Each type has it's own best move.. you've got to figure out wich one is best for ur pokemon.. :)

awkwardsilencer May 22nd, 2004 8:03 AM

im trainging a smeagle and im gonna use sketch so i need to know what moves to give it.

Simon May 22nd, 2004 8:12 AM

Give it moves that'll get it STAB. I dunno what type Smeargle is so I don't know.

Jirachi3 May 22nd, 2004 9:02 AM

I personally think that the best attack is psyco boost(power 120 or something around there).

awkwardsilencer May 22nd, 2004 10:01 AM

tri attack
heatwave
earthquake
psychic

is that a good moveset for smeargle?

Frostweaver May 22nd, 2004 11:43 AM

Tsk tsk... Smeragle cannot attack at all people... Its stats is horrid (in order to balance out Sketch)

Smeragle - [speed + / atk -] @ quick claw
EV: Speed max and (balance out some defensive factor here)
-SPORE
-dragon dance
-baton pass
-substitute

the common pseudohazers of suicune, skarmory or wheezing do not have lum berry/chesto. the only thing that's in your way is lum berry. People will send out their sweeper immediately to block spore, then OHKO you next turn. Should the pass ever succeed... there will be chaos.

Jari May 22nd, 2004 12:17 PM

To get back to the first question:
Explosion with a base power of 250 (375 for Smeargle,STAB)

awkwardsilencer May 22nd, 2004 1:35 PM

dude, any pokemon can attack, if you dont play against people or in tournies, i play by myself. and with strong attacks any pokemon can be good.

and explosion stinks, id rather take out atleast 2 guys then jsut die on 1 guy just to kill him

Jari May 22nd, 2004 1:52 PM

But it is the attack with the highest BP.There are way more better attacks.

Frostweaver May 22nd, 2004 2:44 PM

Actually be annoyed at how powerful explosion is... some metagross can be the most annoying thing in the world having explosion, as it almost gurantees that it can take out 2 Pokemon then unless there's Skarmory to block explosion.

Smeragle cannot attack. With a stats of MAXIMUM 139 attack power, tell me what can you kill... even using aeroblast for Smeragle on a blissey will result in Blissey only being in yellow at most (critical hit then that's another matter). True that all Pokemon can damage the other, even Magikarp using tackle for example, but just how well can they do it? If their damage inflicted is close to zero, let's just call it "not being able to attack at all." There are much better things these Pokemon can do. Seismic toss and nightshade are powerful because it does fixed damage ignoring defense, and it's gurantee to do a certain amount of damage regardless of how crappy your offensive stats are.

stewie&rupert May 22nd, 2004 5:09 PM

based on battle power, the most powerful atk for each type are:

NORMAL:explosion/double-edge/hyper beam
FIGHTING:dynamicpunch/focus punch/superpower
FLYING:sky attack
GROUNG:earthquake
ROCK:rock slide
BUG:megahorn
GHOST:shadow ball
POISON:sludge bomb
STEEL:doom desire-jirachi only/iron tail/meteor mash
FIRE:fire blast/blast burn-charizard only/eruption/overheat
WATER:hydro pump/hydro cannon-blastoise only/water spout
GRASS:solar beam/frenzy plant-venusaur only
ELECTRICITY:thunder/zap cannon(still dont know about volt tackle)
ICE:blizzard
PSYCHIC:psycho boost-deoxys only/psychic
DRAGON:outrage
DARK:crunch

thats about it.

awkwardsilencer May 22nd, 2004 5:11 PM

hows it do two if u get killed from using it? im not talking bout in a double battle cuz this guys for ruby.

Frostweaver May 22nd, 2004 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awkwardsilencer
hows it do two if u get killed from using it? im not talking bout in a double battle cuz this guys for ruby.

Kill something with a just ordinary attacks, then after you're all worn out from taking down a Pokemon, explode asap to take down another. Eggy with explosions then to destroy Blissey pretty well.

Best dark attack in terms of base power is crunch, not faint attack.

Volt tackle should be listed in the electric section as well if crappy zap cannon with just 100 pwr is on the list (bolt is only 5 off from cannon)

awkwardsilencer May 22nd, 2004 6:57 PM

i know that, faint attack sucks.

Kaiorga8929 May 23rd, 2004 12:34 PM

I think Sheer Cold, Guillotine, Horn Drill, Fissure are the most powerful attacks in the game, but they are not so useful in battle, unless you have that pokemon with Foresight, Mind Reader or Lock On.

awkwardsilencer May 23rd, 2004 3:03 PM

yeh cuz they have a lol chance to hit ,thats why i dont use them

Simon May 23rd, 2004 3:40 PM

I don't think any Pokemon that can learn 1HKO can learn any of the gaurenteed hit moves.

Kaiorga8929 May 23rd, 2004 4:07 PM

hey, who knows.... maybe through breeding.... like Pinsir with Foresight, it's possible, maybe...

Simon May 23rd, 2004 4:09 PM

Or cheating. Anything is possible with cheating.

Frostweaver May 23rd, 2004 6:45 PM

Articuno is the most famous OHKO user in RS... He's the only one who knows sheer cold (which no type resist unlike all others) and mind reader. Go artiucno! ^_^

Timbjerr May 23rd, 2004 7:14 PM

and don't forget the Poliwrath with Mid Reader and Fissure from GSC...

If you want my opinion on the best attack in the game, I'd say Toxic, if used appropriately. But then again, like most people with Crobat as a favorite pokémon, I prefer annoyer movesets to full-power ones...

Frostweaver May 23rd, 2004 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmbjr
and don't forget the Poliwrath with Mid Reader and Fissure from GSC...

Your "friend"- Gengar

Gengar is immune to all OHKO except Sheer cold, which makes Articuno a lot better than all other oHKOers

Timbjerr May 23rd, 2004 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
Your "friend"- Gengar

Gengar is immune to all OHKO except Sheer cold, which makes Articuno a lot better than all other oHKOers

ahem...I said the Poliwrath from GSC...back before Gengar had the levitate ability to protect it from Fissure...

Frostweaver May 23rd, 2004 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmbjr
ahem...I said the Poliwrath from GSC...back before Gengar had the levitate ability to protect it from Fissure...

Name of this forum = ruby/sapphire! =D;;

as for all other attacks that aren't OHKO, it all depends... against skarmory even explosion maybe a bit useless, but a flamethrower will be superior. Against Blissey, it's the other way around.

Lucifer. May 24th, 2004 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
Articuno is the most famous OHKO user in RS... He's the only one who knows sheer cold (which no type resist unlike all others) and mind reader. Go artiucno! ^_^

Don't other Ice types resist Sheer Cold?

stewie&rupert May 24th, 2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
Kill something with a just ordinary attacks, then after you're all worn out from taking down a Pokemon, explode asap to take down another. Eggy with explosions then to destroy Blissey pretty well.

Best dark attack in terms of base power is crunch, not faint attack.

Volt tackle should be listed in the electric section as well if crappy zap cannon with just 100 pwr is on the list (bolt is only 5 off from cannon)

i didnt c crunch. ill fix it.

and wat does volt tackle do?

Frostweaver May 24th, 2004 12:01 PM

Double-edge like attack electric version... it's quite a powerful attack on Raikou and Zapdos I'll imagine. Currently there's no legal way to get the move yet o.o;

(Nintendo is probably hogging the attack for themselves in special promotions)

Ice beam hits ice type right? ^_^;
As long as it's not total resistance like Shedinja, Sheer Cold will hit (just like how horn drill can hit a Steelix without Sturdy)

Xilion_Sword90 May 24th, 2004 1:33 PM

Well, if you want to be evil with Smeargle, try:

Spore
Lock-On/Mind Reader
Sheer Cold
Recover

awkwardsilencer May 24th, 2004 4:05 PM

does it matter whether its fissue, sheercold, or what 1 hit ko move it is?

Frostweaver May 24th, 2004 4:57 PM

yes it does. It MUST be sheer cold or else Gengar will mess up your Smeragle. Gengar is resistant to all OHKO moves except Sheer Cold. Anything with sturdy will mess it up as well (and metal chicken roams the earth)

Timbjerr May 24th, 2004 7:57 PM

If this is a Ruby/Sapphire forum, how can we legally be talking about Articunos and Smeargles XD

anyways...my ideal moveset for Smeargle:
Lock-on, Mind Reader, Fissure, Sheer Cold

it covers all bases

Frostweaver May 24th, 2004 8:00 PM

fissure is completely unnecessary... put in spore there to help out smeragle's poor stats (if you can pull off spore first, then... you have a *better* chance) Then again, the name of the game is MC (Metal Chicken)

awkwardsilencer June 4th, 2004 1:40 PM

umm dude, smeargle is in coliseum and i traded him to ruby .

Frostweaver June 4th, 2004 2:11 PM

well in a way tmbjr is right... since ruby/sapphire is more for stuff dedicated to ONLY ruby/sapphire, this should be part of a strategy thing then? *moves*

O.o;

awkwardsilencer June 4th, 2004 3:21 PM

i dont see why it matters but ok.

Marco June 4th, 2004 5:02 PM

I don't think any move is the best. Every one is different and STAB really makes a difference. I guess Earthquake on a ground pokemon or Shadow Ball on Shedinja...

Mew9 June 4th, 2004 6:59 PM

Shadow Ball never works good for me. I dunno y. I like Earthquake and Hyper Beam.

Lucifer. June 5th, 2004 1:29 AM

Maybe you're using it on a Pokemon with a poor Attack rating. Stick it on Metagross, Absol, Banette etc and watch it work its stuff. XD

Frostweaver June 5th, 2004 12:19 PM

Keep in mind that shadow ball is a ghost attack which is PHYSICAL. Doesn't make sense but that's how ghost type attack works. (It looks so "special" to me... attacks like crunch on the other hand... err... *thinks of Tyranitar if dark attacks are physical* nevermind)

Mew9 June 10th, 2004 8:28 AM

Hmmmmm...................... That makes a difference. ("Physical, y didn't i think of dat?")

omega17 June 11th, 2004 6:23 AM

I believe the best move in the game is Toxic.

Iveechan June 11th, 2004 6:54 AM

The best move is Rest. Clears up bad stat ailments and heals all HP. If you have chesto/mint berry (GSC) or double team or natural cure/early bird ability, usefulness is amazing. Then again, most Pokemon with early bird, people tend to prefer the other ability it can get. Or don't want to abuse Rest. And I forget if Natural Cure heals Sleep.

awkwardsilencer June 11th, 2004 4:47 PM

rest sucks...such a waste

Frostweaver June 11th, 2004 9:32 PM

But all natural curers have recover or softboil anyway... recover and softboil is a lot better than rest if there's natural cure.

Rest will be your bane awkwardsilencer... You only need to battle for a day and you'll start to hate resting Skarms so much. Just after 6 turns of brick break that Skarmory is finally red, but then oh dear back to full hp in green! So fun... -_-;

Iveechan June 12th, 2004 12:59 AM

Why even use Brick Break against a Skarmory? What happened to special attacking it to death?

If my natural cure Pokemon were paralyzed, I'd rather rest it up than use Recover. But that's just me. I hate paralysis. It's bad enough you can't move sometimes, it also reduces your speed.

Blitz~2005 June 12th, 2004 1:02 AM

i think tackle is the most powerfull move :P j/k

Frostweaver June 12th, 2004 10:44 AM

well not all the time are you always in a favorable position that you have a special attacker out, or maybe you lost all of them already so all you got are brick breakers... it happens x_x;

Tackle isn't that bad. It's better than splash =p

HellishHades June 12th, 2004 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco
I don't think any move is the best. Every one is different and STAB really makes a difference. I guess Earthquake on a ground pokemon or Shadow Ball on Shedinja...

I've tried Shadow Ball on Shedinja, but I always get pitted against Normal-types -- especially one particular egg-happy Normal-type. That's why I use Aerial Ace on Shedinja. It isn't as powerful, but with a Swords Dance it's decent enough.

Frostweaver June 12th, 2004 10:59 AM

And there's always the chance where that looks-so-happy-egg-Pokemon (but truly real evil deep inside) has toxic too... or switch to tyranitar or Skarmory/Weezing to take you out =/

For my planned set of Shedinja, I use both AA and Shadowball O.o; Protect/SD/AA/SB is what i'm roughly planning...


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