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Shuckle
I have went over it and over it and I don't see why no one uses shuckle. If it has rest, power trick, earthquake and any other move, holding a chesto or lum berry. An impish nature with maxed defenses, I mean, it couldn't hurt could it. Even if you went without power trick, it could seismic toss couldn't it. Tell me what you think.
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well most people don't use it because it has terrible hp
i asked about shuckle a couple of weeks ago and was told to make shuckle the best it can be, to max out hp evs (252) and divide the rest into defense and sp. def it works for me ^^ |
It has below average attack. When Power Trick is used. It can be defeated easily before it attacks.
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dude you guyz are crazy, i use one, toxic makes it the ultimate annoyer+stelth rock
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not many people use shuckle because, it has low HP and a terrible pair of offensive stats. however it makes up for this by being one of the greatest walls out their. most shuckle i have seen are annoyers with move sets like:
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But with power trick, it could easily take out most starmies, milotics alakazams and other special sweepers so I think I'll add one to my team.
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This is the list of Shuckle's base stats. HP 20 Attack 10 Defense 230 Special Attack 10 Special Defense 230 Speed 5 I prefer this set, however, it may seem 3rd Gen-ish (with the exception of Stealth Rock). Curse Toxic Sandstorm Stealth Rock (maybe?) Quote:
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You are all thinking of how low his hp is instead of how his defenses are almost double most pokemons stats.
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Basicly, almost any move that bypasses defence, especially poison/burn, will hurt. Alot.
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I think it could live long enough to stall a great bit, most people say that blisseys have too low def to take anything and are therefore useless but my blissey took a thunderpunch from an electivire with an adamant nature, but it is only fair to say that I used a bold nature and maxed def evs with a 30 iv in def.
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I agree, just max out Hp, and put remaining in defence and SP defence, Shuckle isn't meant to fight on the frontlines, he is there to take some hits, and Toxic the hell out of the enemy. I have mixed opinions on powertrick though, I think shuckle is to slow to make a use out of it...
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I agree with that, and it's too risky to try quick claw but you have to admit if it worked it could possibly defeat anything. for example, first turn quick claw doesn't work and you get attacked and it hardly does anything, then on that turn you use power trick, the second turn if it worked you could get in an earthquake and take out a blissey if you wanted to.
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yeah. i agree, i you want a decent shuckle. max out the EV's for its hp. and pick a nature which lowers an offensive stat for the defense you want to rase.
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with shuckle, you definitly need to EV its HP, as said. but heres a little strategy that may work.
Moves -Power Trick -Toxic -Earthquake -Encore it pretty much only works on pokemon that only have special attacks. Use toxic, then Encore with them using a special move. THen power trick, so you arent vulnerable to physical moves. Then earthquake. sumin like that. |
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Now how is double-team illegal? I swear,all these new rules are gonna ruin the game.
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Just in UU? I don't like Double Team, but I would like to be able to use it if I wanted to.
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Double Team has been illegal since RBY. It's banned in every competitive battle you will ever have. Deal with it.
And lol ooka, who said Blissey is worthless and where can I find them? |
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It doesn't matter how low his attack stat is as long as his defense stat is up with power trick, and that is a good moveset as long as you arent going against a magnezone or metagross special attacking with magnet rise and then use taht on the first turn(and yes I know so don't say anything about metagross, I know most people don't use it for sp attacking, I'm just making an example) Because you would lose horribly. |
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And I wanted to know WHY it was banned. I see no real reason. |
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Somthin popped into my head, but there is that one move Trick Room that makes slower pokemon attack first for like 5 turns. I know its not that great, but I think you could somehow work it in. Get another pkmn on your team to use Trick Room then try to switch shuckle in. Use Power Trick, and you have a crazy sweeper for 5 turns, plus you could power trick back the last turn...
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What if I did quick attack? Would that work to cancel that out?
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It's banned because it's a luckfest and gets boring after a while. Double Team Blissey? No thanks. DT Ninjask passing to anything? I'm not playing it. Roar and WW will get their accuracy affected, and if you have any other form of Hazer, think of it this way: They have 3 or 4 Pokemon to take out the hazer, and a few more to Double Team up. Sure, there's Pulse Bomb and Aerial Ace, but most Pokemon don't learn Pulse Bomb and Aerial Ace isn't really worth wasting a moveslot on something that should be attacking with something more powerful. |
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IIRC priority moves are not affected by Trick Room, QA will still go first and Vital Throw goes last.
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