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St. Anger July 11th, 2007 1:35 PM

Darkrai and Shaymin can be real?
 
Are Darkrai and Shaymin considered "legit" if you glitch, but not hack it?
Ex: E4 glitching

diamondpearl876 July 11th, 2007 1:38 PM

To me, it's legit.

Not our fault if the glitch was there.

Ichida July 11th, 2007 2:13 PM

I consider Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus legit if the event item itself is the only thing hacked and you went to the actual location to get the REAL Pokemon itself. It's the same thing you would have gotten had you attended a real event, and it's just as moral and/or immoral as exploiting a glitch, so why do so many people have poles up their rears about them? <.<;;

sanjay120 July 11th, 2007 2:49 PM

I really don't care if it's legit or not. Whether you consider it legit depends on if you think a glitch is legit. Would you call me out if I said I had a legit Sky Attack Rhydon? Though that's not the best of examples since they will be obtainable in the future, the glitch is just quicker. However, sadly my Sky Attack Rhydon will most likely not be.

Shiny Umbreon July 11th, 2007 2:51 PM

According to the PC and the game's "data", it's legit if you do the glitch or hack the item. For me, it's okay to do it if you can't go to events and you just want your PokéDex complete, but I'd never dare to call it "legit".

Ichida July 11th, 2007 3:15 PM

The farthest I'm going with mine is to EV train up a 'rai and an Arc' to use in the offline colosseums in PBR. :P

Champhev July 11th, 2007 5:15 PM

They are legit because shaymin is like most all right legendaries it is all around in the high 260s, even dark rai is legit because some one such as palkia or kyogore can have the same or higher base special attack, itis just the attack and ability of dark rai that is a bit unf air because of his attack dark void that puts both foes to sleep in a double battle, plus his ability which makes them lose hp everyturn if a sleep this with dream eater is an extremely deadly combination even if you add nightmare which also adds damage everyturn is lethal in any battle alos he is a fast pokemon so you neevr know

In PBR i have this code for a spiritomb with wonder guard so i will never to max train with evs ect because he has no weakness so you cant lay a hit it is quite legit looking. The good thing is it learns follow me so the opposing pokemon cant attack anyone but spiritomb

codymr14 July 11th, 2007 5:44 PM

so ichida are you saying that if the items to go to like the emerald dyoxus and mew and other guys like that can be hacked but the pokemon wont ?

Ichida July 11th, 2007 5:51 PM

Technically the Pokemon itself would be 100% legit, but other people will probably still call it hacked since you hacked the item to reach it. Some people just don't appreciate a good loophole...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champhev
In PBR i have this code for a spiritomb with wonder guard so i will never to max train with evs ect because he has no weakness so you cant lay a hit it is quite legit looking. The good thing is it learns follow me so the opposing pokemon cant attack anyone but spiritomb

HAX!!! *Slap* It isn't "legit-looking." Don't dare use that against another player, seriously.

codymr14 July 11th, 2007 6:05 PM

ok ichida i want you to tell me if they are legit or not by there nature

Mew:OT:brave
ho-oh:docile
Deoxys:Naive

my friend used his AR on my emerald and got these guys with the tickets so plz tell me

Pkmn Trainer Alex July 11th, 2007 6:10 PM

Legitimacy differs from person to person really. As an MMO player, I have it in my mind that any form of exploit, hack or glitch, is wrong, and in said MMOs, such exploiting would earn you the perma-ban. XD But since this isn't an MMO, legitimacy is based on the consensus, which in Pokémonland, means that glitch exploits are OK, but 3rd party exploits (hacking) are still bad.

codymr14 July 11th, 2007 6:13 PM

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH???? plz say that again so that i can understand it

Pkmn Trainer Alex July 11th, 2007 6:22 PM

Nothing, that was just about the ethics of glitching and hacking lol. Didn't direct that towards you.

But in your case, as Ichida pointed out, the legendaries themselves are legit, as you hacked for the items. The actual Pokémon you caught are what they should be, but because you got them in an illegit way, others may not like to trade for them if they realize this.

Edit: The really bad hacking is when you use a code to encounter a certain Pokémon somewhere you shouldn't. Also the codes for making things you catch be shiny and with perfect, or beyond perfect, stats and abilities (like that Spiritomb with Wonder Guard).

Lubricus July 11th, 2007 6:26 PM

I agree with Ichida i mean the pokemons code is a hundered percent legit the item just isn't i mean people might not have the money to go to all the events so hacking the item is the only way to get the pokemon.

codymr14 July 11th, 2007 6:30 PM

going to the events cost money dang im glad my mom is trying to get me a job

Ichida July 11th, 2007 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkmn Trainer Alex (Post 2614931)
But in your case, as Ichida pointed out, the legendaries themselves are legit, as you hacked for the items. The actual Pokémon you caught are what they should be, but because you got them in an illegit way, others may not like to trade for them if they realize this.

Edit: The really bad hacking is when you use a code to encounter a certain Pokémon somewhere you shouldn't. Also the codes for making things you catch be shiny and with perfect, or beyond perfect, stats and abilities (like that Spiritomb with Wonder Guard).

*Nods with a smile* Those are my exact beliefs, right there. I just don't see why other people can't understand this way of thinking.

codymr14 July 11th, 2007 6:33 PM

huh who knows but thanks to you and him i know myy legends i got from emerald are legit

Lubricus July 11th, 2007 6:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2614973)
going to the events cost money dang im glad my mom is trying to get me a job

you have to pay if its out of town and i hate the wait in line thing it kills me sitting there for two hours to get a pokemon i can't use on PBR wifi anyway.

Callydude™ July 11th, 2007 7:09 PM

I think it's legit even if you AR'd the items because thats only one little bit of data what harm could it do because you you might live outof USA or Japan (like me) so you wouldn't be able to get to the Event. But even though where I live you can't buy an ARI'd still call it legit.

Pkmn Trainer Alex July 11th, 2007 7:17 PM

Well the thing is, there are people (like me, actually) who see only Pokémon with the correct OT and place caught information to be legit. A Pokémon that you get by using a hacked special event item is legit as far as using it yourself, but when it comes to trading, it depends on the ideals of the person with whom your trading. To such people, a Mew found by using a hacked item is like a forged celebrity's autograph. But to others, it may as well be the real thing. So if you're hacking for event items, just keep in mind who you will have to be trading with if you decide to do so.

Craig² July 11th, 2007 8:29 PM

It's possible to obtain the legit Darkrai/Shaymin. Otherwise, there'd be no events. You can determine their legitimacy by several factors, of which I will not go into detail.

St. Anger July 12th, 2007 9:03 AM

Well to some of us,those events can be too far away for us.:disappoin

wakachamo July 12th, 2007 9:15 AM

If you took a look at the trading rules, you'll see that we consider glitching legit. Case closed, kthx.

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