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mr_pato July 11th, 2007 10:03 PM

Another legendary dogs question
 
When are their IVs and natures set?

Goldenhammerhead July 11th, 2007 10:45 PM

at the start of the game. not when you first see them,

mr_pato July 11th, 2007 11:15 PM

Cool, thanks.
I hope I rolled a good one then.

MiTjA July 11th, 2007 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 2615828)
at the start of the game. not when you first see them,

what???
i wanted to make a thread with the same question right now lol...
because i dont know if they're set after getting the national dex or after you get ruby to celio or when???

but its sure not from the start of the game!1
or how do you know? have you tried it?

i want to do the thing i did with the lati in sapphire:
1.go to tv at home (after E4 yeah)
2.save
3.A
4.go out and search for it
5.catch w/ MB
6. look stats and nature
7.if its crap SR and repeat

atm in my leaf green i'm standing in oaks lab, and when a talk to him i get the N.dex o_o

PS: please dont post answers if you did not try or prove it!1
answers like "its after the nat.dex" will not help so dont post them

pokemon1412 July 12th, 2007 7:27 AM

IV and nature is calculated when you encounter every single pokemon.
IV is calculated randomly (expect you use GS, PAR, CB, etc.)
narture, shiny, gender are calculated randomly, but it linked somehow with Trainer ID and Secret Trainer ID.

MiTjA July 12th, 2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon1412 (Post 2616669)
IV and nature is calculated when you encounter every single pokemon.
IV is calculated randomly (expect you use GS, PAR, CB, etc.)
narture, shiny, gender are calculated randomly, but it linked somehow with Trainer ID and Secret Trainer ID.

i know that o_o

and....I TRIED IT MYSELF (what did i try? look at my question above)

i was bored and tried it out by trading an entei to my LG from FR and the results were like this:
-beaten E4+nat.dex: no entei in kanto
-ruby @ celio: still no freakin entei
-standing in front of pokecenter on island1 with sapphire in bag: no entei
-go into pokecenter and gave sapphire to celio: entei next to vermillion city

so:
THE LEGENDARY CAT IS CALCULATED AT THE MOMENT YOU GIVE CELIO THE SAPPHIRE

and now i'm soft reseting for a good nature and IVs =)

Mitja

Always and Never July 12th, 2007 12:22 PM

Umm, no its not.


It's as soon as you get the National Dex.

And it's IV and Nature are set at the beginning of your game, just like [email protected] were in R/S.

All roaming legendaries have there's set at the beginning of the game.

mr_pato July 12th, 2007 3:36 PM

MiTjA: Your logic in interpreting the results of your experiment are flawed. The setting of Entei's stats are not necessarily at the same time that it is made available for capture, unless you can prove otherwise. I'm not saying that your conclusion is wrong, but it does not follow from your experiment, and therefore I am leaning towards those that say beginning of the game.

And a little nitpick for xXscytherXx, "there's" should be "their's."

Thanks all.

MiTjA July 13th, 2007 5:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pato (Post 2618416)
MiTjA: Your logic in interpreting the results of your experiment are flawed. The setting of Entei's stats are not necessarily at the same time that it is made available for capture, unless you can prove otherwise. I'm not saying that your conclusion is wrong, but it does not follow from your experiment, and therefore I am leaning towards those that say beginning of the game.

And a little nitpick for xXscytherXx, "there's" should be "their's."

Thanks all.

i'm softr reseting with saved game standing next to celio!1
everytime i search for a new entei it has a different nature and different stats o_O

mr_pato July 13th, 2007 5:31 PM

Well, that's different then.
Why's everyone saying start of game?

MiTjA July 21st, 2007 1:33 PM

i wanted to post this like 5days ago already but forgot to XD

ok i was soft reseting for entei
the nature was absolutely random, cos i had more then the half of all natures atlast once
as for health points IV, its was also random...i had 118 115 113 107 etc

but the strange thing was with the other stats, the stats that can be influenced by natures
example: the sp.def was always (excluding sp.def altering natures) 95, same for all the other stats

conclusion:
-nature=random, determined when giving celio the sapphire
-hp IV=random, determined when giving celio the sapphire
-all other stats=always the same, calculated by ID or those other hidden numbers or what they are i guess... =o


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