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Piplup Master July 12th, 2007 7:03 AM

Rate my Team Plz!
 
*= Im keeping for sure

Empoleon

Drill Peck
Return
Surf*
Hydro Pump*

Staraptor
Fly*
Brave Bird
Ariel Ace
Close Combat

Garchomp
Rock Climb*
Crunch
Flamethrower
Dragon Rush

Ambipom
Fochus Punch
Thunder Bolt
Iron Tail
Shadow Ball

Torterra
Earhtquake
Seed Bomb
Sythnesis
Leaf Storm

Frosslass
?
?
?
?

FlamesFan July 12th, 2007 9:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piplup Master (Post 2616601)
*= Im keeping for sure

Empoleon @ Petaya Berry
Modest

-Grass Knot
-Ice Beam
-Surf*
-Hydro Pump* (Must not have 2 of the same type) Agility

Staraptor @ Focus Sash
Adamant

-Fly*(Fly presents opponent op. to switch out)Return
-Brave Bird
-U-Turn
-Close Combat

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Adamant

-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Fire Fang/Brick Break
-Dragon Rush/Dragon Claw

Ambipom @ Metronome
Adamant

-Shadow Claw
-Return (With 'Technician)
-Agility
-Baton Pass


Torterra @ Leftovers
Brave

-Earthquake
-Wood Hammer
-Sythnesis
-Leaf Storm(Bad SpAtk)Curse

Frosslass @ Focus Sash
Modest
-Ice Beam
-Shadow ball
-Destiny Bond
-Thunder Bolt

All changes are in the quote. Your team is mostly sweepers, but I changed Torterra into a Pseudo-Tank and Empoleon has decent defenses; but if you like you team like this then you don't have to put Walls, Clerics, etc. -Happy Battling!

sims796 July 12th, 2007 9:13 AM

Ok, I'm Wii typing, so I can't put much. But your Empoleon is ALL wrong. I'm no Empoleon expert, but I'll give ya this:

Empoleon
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot/Stealth Rock/Flash Cannon
Roar/Yawn

There ya go. Sorry to say Hydro Pump is utterly useless. You don't need two offensive moves of the same type on a single poke, they should be diverse in order to take care of different types.


EDIT:'Thanks Flamefan, I take too long Wii typing.

EDIT 2: Adamant is a better nature for an offensive Torterra. Impish for Defensive.

Piplup Master July 12th, 2007 12:53 PM

How do I get Torterra with wood hammer cause hes level 56 and I really dont feel like breeding him and starting from lv1

sims796 July 12th, 2007 12:56 PM

No need. Get a Heart Scale & go to the Move Relearner.

Akuchiki Byakuya July 12th, 2007 1:16 PM

Wood hammer...... there are so many better move to use on it than that.

sims796 July 12th, 2007 1:24 PM

Wood Hammer is an excellent move that isn't hard to get, especially on Torterra. Main drawback is recoil, which can get quite nasty. I get around that with Synthesis. Someone on my team makes it sunny. Seed Bomb is good too.

Akuchiki Byakuya July 12th, 2007 1:29 PM

Why do you always have to come in and post the complete oposite of what i say, maybe it's just to get more posts, or to type over and over again that you are on the internet on the wii but I reallly don't think anyone cares and I wish you would quit coming in right behind me and posting the opposite of everything.

Now, since that's out of my system, the reason wood hammer is such a bad choice is because there are so many other grass move choices and the same reason that people only use double edge and take down on rock pokemon with rock head, because it is a waste of health.

sims796 July 12th, 2007 1:38 PM

Do you know why? Because I feel that you're not right. Get over yourself, please. I do not respect people saying no one cares what I say on an open, public forum. If thats the case, no one should give an opinion.

Secondly, Wood Hammer is great ON TORTERRA. He doesn't have the best moveset there is. But he does well with what he has.

If you don't like me posting over you, stop posting. I'm not looking for you, just new post. So please, keep thst atittude to yourself. I've been nothing but pleasent, I never insulted you, and I don't deserve that.

Akuchiki Byakuya July 12th, 2007 1:41 PM

You deserved every bit of that and saying that wood hammer is good on torterra is like saying hyper beam is good on salamence, they just aren't good together, and no I will not quit posting on these threads. I just seem to see you everywhere and your posts sart like this

Excuse me for the slow typing I'm on the wii but here it goes, I just don't think thats right what that guy just said.

do you know that if you didn't say you were typing on the wii it would take less time that if you did. amazing huh.I type on the wii also I just don't go everywhere telling everyone.

sims796 July 12th, 2007 1:51 PM

This is the last time I'm gonna say this-keep your damn atittude to yourself. I don't speak about anyone else at all, and try to be as polite as possible. Seriously. I put that down cause my post are usually slow. I did NOT deserve any atittude from anyone. Anyone on this forum can say that Wood Hammer is a decent move on Torterra. Not the best but good. I've done nothing to you, and never insulted you in any way. And ya know what? I'll just apoligize if I did. Just keep your damn atittude to yourself.

Akuchiki Byakuya July 12th, 2007 2:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2618063)
This is the last time I'm gonna say this-keep your damn atittude to yourself. I don't speak about anyone else at all, and try to be as polite as possible. Seriously. I put that down cause my post are usually slow. I did NOT deserve any atittude from anyone. Anyone on this forum can say that Wood Hammer is a decent move on Torterra. Not the best but good. I've done nothing to you, and never insulted you in any way. And ya know what? I'll just apoligize if I did. Just keep your "goddamn" atittude to yourself.

If I hear talk like this again I will report you(remind you of anyone else you know).
And if that's the last time you are going to say it then good I don't have to hear you anymore. And you just admitted it, wood hammer is not the best so don't reccommend it unless it is. You don't have to insult me to anger me in such a way that I fell like retaliating, I despise you because you are so vain when it comes to things that have to do with you so heres a little suggestion shut up.

I think instead of wood hammer go with something like this

[email protected]
Trait=overgrow
ev's 252 attack 129 defense 129 hp.
seed bomb/wood hammer(if your desperate for so much damage that you take half of your own hp away from killing a swampert)
earthquake
synthesis
crunch/stone edge

sims796 July 12th, 2007 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooka_100 (Post 2617972)
Why do you always have to come in and post the complete oposite of what i say, maybe it's just to get more posts, or to type over and over again that you are on the internet on the wii but I reallly don't think anyone cares and I wish you would quit coming in right behind me and posting the opposite of everything.

Now, since that's out of my system, the reason wood hammer is such a bad choice is because there are so many other grass move choices and the same reason that people only use double edge and take down on rock pokemon with rock head, because it is a waste of health.

Really? Who's insulting who? I started nothing, and here you go, bashing me from the start. What do you have against me, anyway? You're right, I shouldn't of cursed, but still, don't give me any atittude, or I'm reporting YOU. My opinions aren't like yours, so don't go saying I deserve it cause I don't agree with you.

Here is my Torterra moveset, like it or not:

Torterra-Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Wood Hammer
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Synthesis

If you don't like it, don't use it. Leave your hurtful sarcasm to yourself. Talking about despising me? Thats straight up bashing. Please, stop it. I already tried apoligizing, but here you go anyway.

Akuchiki Byakuya July 12th, 2007 2:46 PM

Report me for what, arrguing(which you also did) or cussing (which you also did)

Piplup Master July 12th, 2007 2:54 PM

Sigh I not sure between Wood Hammer and Leaf Storm


Should I have Lucario on my team I replaced him for Frosslass cause I have three fighting weakness and I need a ghost

sims796 July 12th, 2007 2:54 PM

Look, You Know What, I'm Tired Of This. Can We Please Squash This Now? It's Getting Us Nowhere. Seriously, I Have No Promblem With You, I Actually Thought You Was Cool, And Capable Of A Real Debate, Until You Insulted Me. Hence Why I Always Had A Counter-post For Yours. We Are Both Part Of Vainz's Post, So Lets Please Stop This, Before We Both Get In Trouble. You Said That You Despise Me, Yet You Never Seen My Post With Anything Like That.

EDIT: Well, I can definetly tell you, NO LEAF STORM. His special is to low. And I apoligize for bringing this to your thread.

Piplup Master July 12th, 2007 2:57 PM

Of its fine I dont care..........

PKMN NIGHTFALLS July 12th, 2007 4:55 PM

alot of ppl have those pokemon and move sets. i would prefer pokemon with only one type.

Faceless* July 12th, 2007 5:02 PM

Use Froslass as a BoltBeamer, Froslass it makes a good dragon killer.

My Staraptor has a CB (Choice Band), fly is horrible, dont keep it. Use brave bird instead.

Akuchiki Byakuya July 12th, 2007 5:53 PM

I apologize also for being such a jerk, It's just that when I was moving my wii to the living room the other day and droped it on my toe, found out today that it's broken and ever since I have been a jerk but don't worry, it's okay.... the wii I mean. But yea, I realized how much of a jerk I was being so I will stop now.

May I suggest gengar as a boltbeamer instead, he is much more capable(except for beam stab).

mewthree w/armor July 12th, 2007 5:59 PM

sims796 & ooka_100...

CLAM DOWN NOW!

Ok you two. If you can't play together, don't reply to each others posts. Period. Ok?

sims796 July 12th, 2007 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooka_100 (Post 2618960)
I apologize also for being such a jerk, It's just that when I was moving my wii to the living room the other day and droped it on my toe, found out today that it's broken and ever since I have been a jerk but don't worry, it's okay.... the wii I mean. But yea, I realized how much of a jerk I was being so I will stop now.

May I suggest gengar as a boltbeamer instead, he is much more capable(except for beam stab).

All water under the bridge. I was acting like a jerk too. I also second Gengar, but thats cause I don't know much on Froslass.

Akuchiki Byakuya July 12th, 2007 6:05 PM

I studies on frosslass and it has decent speed but horrible sp.attk which is why I don't think it would make much of a boltbeamer.

Azonic July 13th, 2007 6:26 AM

You can play around with Leaf Storm on Torterra, it is not a Special Attacker so it wont do much harm on it.

I love rating Staraptors for some reason.

[email protected] Band/Life Orb
Trait:Intimidate
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 ATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP

Brave Bird
Close Combat
U-Turn/Agility/Swordsdance
Return/Double Edge

Physical Sweeper, U-turn gets rid of the stat reduction Close Combat does. Lot of Recoil Damage on this one. Needs higher speed, Agility/Swordsdance to amp it

sims796 July 13th, 2007 6:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2620701)
You can play around with Leaf Storm on Torterra, it is not a Special Attacker so it wont do much harm on it.

Sorry, but because he's not much of a sp.atker, thats why you don't want Leaf Storm. For everything Leaf Storm can take on, Wood Hammer, hell even Seed Bomb, could do better.

Azonic July 13th, 2007 7:12 AM

I said he can. Wood Hammer is OK, but with good defense, HP is a large price to pay

Piplup Master July 13th, 2007 8:43 AM

I need Fly not because its a good move because so I can get around faster and I dont want to use any other guys on my team I just want to know what moves to use

Faceless* July 13th, 2007 9:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooka_100 (Post 2618960)
I apologize also for being such a jerk, It's just that when I was moving my wii to the living room the other day and droped it on my toe, found out today that it's broken and ever since I have been a jerk but don't worry, it's okay.... the wii I mean. But yea, I realized how much of a jerk I was being so I will stop now.

May I suggest gengar as a boltbeamer instead, he is much more capable(except for beam stab).

what again now? GENGAR doesn't even kno ice beam :\

Piplup Master July 13th, 2007 9:33 AM

Okay Im gonna make another thread with the update moves could a mod kindly close this

Azonic July 13th, 2007 11:20 AM

You don't have to, just EDIT what you wrote and update.

sims796 July 13th, 2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2621476)
You don't have to, just EDIT what you wrote and update.

Too late for that now. For future reference, I suppose.


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