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Kabutops May 25th, 2004 1:18 PM

Help build a team
 
Hey all. i'm setting up a team in pokemon ruby, but i have no idea what pokemon should go in it... The only pokemon that has to be there is kabutops.
But idk who the rest should be... can someone give me ideas of which pokemon and there moves to use.

Frostweaver May 25th, 2004 3:21 PM

Err... really I doubt if we can make the entire team for you, or else then we'll be the one playing, not you. Perhaps try to make a team, and we'll fix/comment on it and guide you along the way ^_^

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 4:56 PM

but that's the problem. i don't know what the other pkmn should be. and that's what i'm asking, What should the other pkmn be? i guess i'm asking for opinions from every1 else on what the best team would be made of...

Frostweaver May 25th, 2004 5:02 PM

best team = doesn't exist

it's the process of striving to achieve the impossible that makes Pokemon fun ^_^
Every person's idea best team is different... really we can't help you on this one (or else it'll be us making the teams for you to just carry out, which means that you aren't really playing)

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 5:13 PM

i get what ure sayin, but the game gets too easy after beating it an insane amount of time, you know? i'm just tryin to find ways to make it even more fun. so i know what u mean by " the best team" not existing, so i was askin opinions.:P

Simon May 25th, 2004 5:47 PM

It doesn't really matter what the best team for ingame play is, a trainer in the battle tower will have a hard time beating even a level 100 Linoone let alone an entire team. And the best team would probably be 6 Mewtwos or..maybe that new DeoxysF...but that wouldn't be fair would it?

Just tell us what team you have right now.

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 5:50 PM

what's the new deoxysF? i only know about deoxys :P

well my team currently is:

Kabutops
rock slide
substitute
hydro pump
and rain dance

Tyranitar
crunch
earthquake
sandstorm
thrash

Gardevoir
calm mind
psychic
imprison
------

Simon May 25th, 2004 5:57 PM

It's one of the 3 forms of Deoxys, now tell us your team so we can tear it apart.

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 5:59 PM

i edited my post, but i only have three right now, cause i don't know who else to use

Simon May 25th, 2004 6:10 PM

I don't know for Kabutops. I don't know anything about R/B/Y Pokemon.

Tyranitar(EV: 252 Atk, 129 HP, 129 Speed)[email protected] Berry/Leftovers
Crunch
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Dragon Damce

Why give Tyranitar Sandstorm? It's ability already gives it auto SS. This is what I used for my Tyranitar.

Gardeivor(EV: 252 Sp. Atk, 129 Speed, 129 Def.)[email protected] Berry
Calm Mind
Psychic
Will-o-Wisp
HP Ice

This is my friend's Gardevior (not sure about the EVs on it). Calm Mind raises it's Sp.Atk/Def, and Psychic gets STAB. Wisp to burn and lower attack and HP Ice just to deal with anything Psychic can't. It works for him agaisnt my other friends but I always end up killing it with my Kyogre which is my team starter, doesn't mean it's bad though. I think.

I'm not good with teams so you might want to listen to Frosty instead...

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 6:12 PM

ok i am only 3 days new to this forum... i'm curious, what's HP ice, HPfire, etc... meen?

Simon May 25th, 2004 6:20 PM

HP (Type)=Hidden Power

Each pokemon's effect for Hidden Power varies depending on it's IV/DV stats which are automatically given to it upon catching it, hatching it, etc. They cannot be changed. IV?DV stats can be from between 0-31, and their are 5 (or 6?) for each stat a Pokemon has and each point adds another point to that stat. So a value of 28 IV/DV for Atk adds 28 additional points to the Attack stat of that Pokemon.

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 6:23 PM

isn't having a certain effect for hidden power random then?

Simon May 25th, 2004 6:25 PM

Yeah it is. But for those of us who use NetBattle or Pokemon Calculators/Makers with our cheating devices it's no problem for us since we can choose it.

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 6:30 PM

ok, i have a calculator, so what r the numers for HP ice for gardevoir on it?

Simon May 25th, 2004 6:31 PM

This is getting very off topic.

I use 31 for all except for Speed which is 30. That should give Ice.

Jirachi3 May 25th, 2004 6:34 PM

In my opinion the best team is shiny Celebi,DeoxysFR,Shiny Groudon,Jirachi(shiny),Kyogre,And Pidgeot.

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 6:35 PM

ok that takes care of gardevoir... now i need to figure out my next three party pokemon... i was thinking of a hazer beeing a dragon or something...

ok i'm confused now. if you keep saying deoxysf and stuff. does that mean we can get them? (sorry for double posting)

Simon May 25th, 2004 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabutops
ok i'm confused now. if you keep saying deoxysf and stuff. does that mean we can get them? (sorry for double posting)

I doubt Jirachi even has Deoxys-FR. You can't get Deoxys, Deoxys-FR, or Deoxys-LG in R/S, not without cheating anyway. There are rumors to get them in R/S, but none have been true. You won't be able to get any of those until FR/LG comes out.

A hazing Dragon? I don't know of any...I know of anti-hazing dragons, but not hazing dragons.

And why are you still asking for a team? I thought Frosty already wrote about a page on your Elite Four killing team in your other thread.

Kabutops May 25th, 2004 6:50 PM

uhuh...i think i understand bout deoxys a bit more. and about the team... well... i know frosty did but i like finding a team that ppl can't tear apart too well :P

Frostweaver May 25th, 2004 7:08 PM

Think of it like this: There are all those Unowns (A, B, C and so on). Deoxys work the same way. They're all classified as one Pokemon but it has different stats for each version. One of them is pure trash, One of them is all out offense, and the last one is all out defense. All of them are considered ubar (even the trash one)

Hazing dragons are dragonite and Altaria, but both of them are not a good hazer. Pseudohazer also do the job of hazer though in a way, so keep in mind.

By the way, I don't give you the exact amount of EV to put in a stat due to the fact that choosing EV is actually a BIG part of team making. Currently I'm studying that myself. So really since I am not certain how the EV should go for the best result, I'll usually just say what EV you want to invest in (but not how much)


I'll rate on top of Demonchaos =p

Gardevoir- wha...? HP Ice? what for? HP Ice isn't that good for Gardevoir's type, and why take HP Ice when there's thunderbolt?

Gardevoir- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ lum berry
EV: Sp.atk, sp.def, hp
-Will o wisp/wish
-psychic
-thunderbolt
-destiny bond/calm mind

*note: if you use wish, you can't use any egg moves because wish is a col move

Tyranitar- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ lum berry/leftovers
EV: Atk, spd, def, hp
-fire blast
-earthquake
-rock slide
-dragon dance

Kabutops- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ salac berry/liechi berry
EV: Atk and Spd, perhaps some def
-brick break
-endure/sub
-flail
-rock slide/ancientpower

I did try flailing Kabutops with RD already... and how unfortunately, it can't even OHKO Kairi's Marowak at 1 hp =/ So... best of luck o.o?

Mana Lugia May 25th, 2004 7:27 PM

It(Deoxys RS) wasn't so trash when RSbot was filled with all out attacking pokemon :(

Frostweaver May 25th, 2004 7:38 PM

but I don't understand... what use Deoxys RS when there is Deoxys FR =/
Higher speed and higher attack power... and both of them have crappy defense anyway so why use it?

Kairi May 25th, 2004 8:02 PM

He prolly means before sub red explosion green came out. =o

Mana Lugia May 26th, 2004 9:29 AM

Indeed.

Love your avatar, Kairi. CCS is my fav Anime.

Although I think Syaoran is cuter >=(


... in a non-homosexual way!

Kabutops May 26th, 2004 1:29 PM

ok then... i'm startin to understand more about using hidden power and stuff.:D

awkwardsilencer May 29th, 2004 3:12 PM

get a Groudon with

fireblast
Solarbeam
Earthquake
Fissure

and a Sceptile or another grass guy with solarbeam and other good attacks and thats a good double battle team.

And i mean REAL GOOD - i never lose now at all.

Frostweaver May 29th, 2004 4:11 PM

Well Groudon is an ubar... and is always one of the cheapest thing in the world with auto-sunny day... Eggy makes a much better companion really.

Groudon shouldn't have fissure... change it to rock slide or brick break, or something physical. And once again, Groudon's physical (base) stats are 50 whole points higher than sp.attack... may want to reconsider the moves.

awkwardsilencer May 29th, 2004 5:11 PM

no. its ok because i mean it works. i take out any pokemon they send out on coliseum.

Simon May 29th, 2004 5:58 PM

Right...the ingame battlers have the intelligence of a goldfish so anything would work on them.

Frostweaver May 29th, 2004 6:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonchaos916
Right...the ingame battlers have the intelligence of a goldfish so anything would work on them.

well said enough XD

However, when you have 2 ubars on the team (well... maybe just one since Jirachi is even more useless than Articuno or Moltres, perhaps the worst of all legendaries), you're almost gurantee to be able to kill at least half a team at times =/ Their stats are just too high and the auto-weather of Groudon/Kyogre requires no skill to abuse it.

Kabutops May 30th, 2004 5:19 AM

ok i'm getting colluseum. am i able to upload the pokemon i was talking about? like kabutops? if not that sucks

Simon May 30th, 2004 7:36 AM

I think you can only upload Pokemon once you beat it without any of your GBA Pokemon first.

Mew9 June 1st, 2004 2:47 PM

U guys r gettin off topic. U needed 3 other mon? I be glad 2 share w/ u. I like Aron (Rock/Steel, good attack, GREAT DEFENSE), Oddish ( especially if hacked w/ Leaf Blade, Leech Seed, Earthquake (anti-electric), and any other attack u need), for da last guy, i dunno-whoeva u like.

Mana Lugia June 1st, 2004 3:26 PM

um, no hacking here, and oddish is worthless. (Vileplume and Bellossom, well, not so)

And as is aron, at least, until it evolves.

Mew9 June 2nd, 2004 12:19 PM

I'm tellin him wat 2 start w/. U can't catch a Larion or Aggron, can u? Hey, don't dis Oddish. He looks cooler and more manly than any of his evolutions and isn't worthless; in every Pokemon game i have i have had 1 in my party and they always kick serious butt; in red my Oddish beat the E4 single handily. So don't diss Oddish. And don't evovle him (unless ur a girl or don't mind da looks)

Frostweaver June 2nd, 2004 2:20 PM

Well anything can beat anyone within the game with any Pokemon even Metapod... plus Red's stats are screwed up due to Amnesia... eugh...

In this forum, nothing is proven by beating the elite 4 in game ^_^; As if you say so, Chikorita beat the elite 4 + Lance is Silver too even if there is so many flying types and poison types too.

Plus, the reason why your Oddish isn't the most admired thing out there is because of illegal movesets which we do not support ^_^;


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