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sims796 July 21st, 2007 9:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651686)
ya ones that have attract,confuse ray i hate those moves im not going to use them if i dont like them

and what is it to you if i say my milotic can kill a level 55 woop dii doo

Thats what I mean. Who cares if it can kill a lvl 55. At wi-fi, all pokes are automatically set to lvl 100 or 50. So there is no type advantage. You will be playing against people who are at equal lvl, but their team is properly EV trained, and with great & diverse movesets. Beating a lvl 55 won't matter there.

And calm down. We're just trying to help, but you're shutting off every attempt.

codymr14 July 21st, 2007 9:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2651237)
Here is a school play:

codymr14: Go Milotic!

opponent: Go Oddish!

codymr: use surf!

Oddish: YAY!!!

codymr: Hydropump

Oddish: YAY!!!

opponent: Sunnyday to Solarbeam!

codymr: Dodge

Milotic: *begins to dodge but suddenly realizes that Milotic didn't have EVs and was too slow.

Milotic is dead! Oddish lvl 1 is the winner!

See? It is pointless to have surf AND hydropump on the same moveset. It needs Hypnosis, and Milotic isn't the AOA type, it needs suppor moves.

[email protected]
Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Modest
EVS: 252 SP. ATK/ 252 DEF/ 4 SP. DEF or HP

Surf
Hypnosis/Attract(if female)
Recover
Icebeam

The play was written by Penguinpal6


ya this isnt really helpful

sims796 July 21st, 2007 9:35 AM

He gave you a moveset, and explained why Surf & Hydro Pump is useless together. Since you wouldn't listen to others giving you movesets, an example was most neccesary.

<3 SK July 21st, 2007 9:38 AM

Battle me 1 on 1 so you will shut up about your Milotic being super amazing own everything pawn you cause I'm using terrible moves.

codymr14 July 21st, 2007 9:40 AM

my friend AKA master beaver ggave me this move set except he said to have recover replace one of the moves i have
oh and if you want to battle my milotic it might be a week or 2 cuz thats when im gtting a laptop with wi- fi

<3 SK July 21st, 2007 9:41 AM

Good for you? He's obviously terrible, so just battle me so that you can see how bad this thing is.

Anti July 21st, 2007 9:42 AM

Okay, now I'm steamed. You can't go around saying you're the best with no proof to back it up. I'm not even a great trainer, but I'll admit that (just look at my team). You have to accept that your milotic is good. My old milotic had all water moves except for ice beam and I got swamped. It is a BAD milotic. Period. Cut and dry. As for your claim status moves suck, try sending out that peice of junk against a snorlax tank. Toxic, protect, return, protect, and just when you are about to kill it, REST. Now toxic has probably destroyed your milotic and even with recover (though you don't have that either) toxic will take away to much damage along with return. Believe me, more than my tank snorlax could take that thing out. A good team should have at least a couple of status inflicting moves. You're entitled to your own opinion, but bashing us for giving ours is rediculous. Go up against the strongest trainer on this forum (NOT ME! I suck!) and then we'll see who's talking. We were a little harsh but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Maybe we'd take you more seriously if you would chill out and not brag about a poor milotic. These people know what they're talking about so ask for help, DON'T say we know nothing just because we have different opinions. Instead of whining about our advice and bashing it try taking our advice. MY ADVICE-if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it att all because taking the high road is the smart thing to do. I'm willing to give you a second chance to be nice and not bash us. Your 1st impression on me isn't good and you only get one first impression. Now if you'd like to be more freindly I'd be more than happy to forgive you. Hope my critizism helps you a little.

codymr14 July 21st, 2007 9:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2651781)
Okay, now I'm steamed. You can't go around saying you're the best with no proof to back it up. I'm not even a great trainer, but I'll admit that (just look at my team). You have to accept that your milotic is good. My old milotic had all water moves except for ice beam and I got swamped. It is a BAD milotic. Period. Cut and dry. As for your claim status moves suck, try sending out that peice of junk against a snorlax tank. Toxic, protect, return, protect, and just when you are about to kill it, REST. Now toxic has probably destroyed your milotic and even with recover (though you don't have that either) toxic will take away to much damage along with return. Believe me, more than my tank snorlax could take that thing out. A good team should have at least a couple of status inflicting moves. You're entitled to your own opinion, but bashing us for giving ours is rediculous. Go up against the strongest trainer on this forum (NOT ME! I suck!) and then we'll see who's talking. We were a little harsh but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Maybe we'd take you more seriously if you would chill out and not brag about a poor milotic. These people know what they're talking about so ask for help, DON'T say we know nothing just because we have different opinions. Instead of whining about our advice and bashing it try taking our advice. MY ADVICE-if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it att all because taking the high road is the smart thing to do. I'm willing to give you a second chance to be nice and not bash us. Your 1st impression on me isn't good and you only get one first impression. Now if you'd like to be more freindly I'd be more than happy to forgive you. Hope my critizism helps you a little.

ok one question . when did i say i was the best

<3 SK July 21st, 2007 9:44 AM

You're acting like your Milotic is the best thing since sliced bread. And it's obvious you have NO experience what-so-ever, so stop acting like you do.

Anti July 21st, 2007 9:45 AM

I don't think I said you said you were the best (that was a mouthful). Anyways, just be nice and respect our opinions rather than shoot them down, 'K?

codymr14 July 21st, 2007 9:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by <3 SK (Post 2651789)
You're acting like your Milotic is the best thing since sliced bread. And it's obvious you have NO experience what-so-ever, so stop acting like you do.

ok where is your proof of me saying that all i said is that it could take out level 55 guys when it was at a lower level and you guys just assume that im saying my milotic is the best thing i know she isnt

Richard Lynch July 21st, 2007 9:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2647644)
level 64 milotic
modest nature which makes her a special sweeper
hp=229
att=101
def=143
sp.att=172
sp.def=179
speed=131
moves
ice beam
dragon pulse
surf
hydro pump

oh and this is without EV training

Hmmm... even without EVs, those stats are slightly low. I've never been fond of a special sweeping Milotic, since she makes such a better dual wall (so much so, that she's one of the best counters to Dragon Dance Salamence, with Bold and maxed EVs in Defense), but even for a special sweeper, your moveset is screwed up.

First of all, the basic rule of thumb is to NEVER use two moves of the same attacking type. While there are loop holes in this (Draco Meteor paired with something like Dragon Claw), it doesn't work for Milotic. So bag Hydro Pump, and stick with Surf, since Hydro Pump sucks in general with its low accuracy.

Secondly, Dragon Pulse is slightly redundant...
the only thing Dragon Pulse can take out with ease is Dragons, and Ice Beam solves that problem completely (and perhaps a bit better). Only reason to add Dragon Pulse in there is if you really fear Kingdra.

As a special sweeper, she doesn't really need a recovery move, but it can help. So at least bag Hydro Pump for Recover. Or you can go with my favourite set, the dual wall:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 84 HP, 252 Def, 12 Spd, 106 SAtk, 56 SDef
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Hypnosis

Makes a fantastic annoyer, and with that Defense, she can easily take out (usually OHKO) someone like Garchomp, granted he hasn't beefed up with Swords Dance. And with her already great Special Defense, she can also take out Choice Specs Salamence; mine OHKOed SpecsMence when I faced one. Hypnosis can be iffy with its accuracy, but Milotic has the defense power to be able to miss a few times.

Anti July 21st, 2007 9:52 AM

What he's saying is you shot down our advice and said we knew nothing (it's in one of your posts), giving us the impression you thought it was perfect and our advice was crap (when in fact it's the exact opposite).

AztecSunshine July 21st, 2007 9:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651686)
ya ones that have attract,confuse ray i hate those moves im not going to use them if i dont like them

and what is it to you if i say my milotic can kill a level 55 woop dii doo

i was once like you i hated moves that don't attack and i thout ppl who use them don't know thing but when i learned about ev training and such i got so much batter and non attacking move are needed if you want to beat some one in a battle

Anti July 21st, 2007 9:55 AM

Yanmega is 100% right. Actually, my story is exactly the same

codymr14 July 21st, 2007 9:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Steel (Post 2651807)
Hmmm... even without EVs, those stats are slightly low. I've never been fond of a special sweeping Milotic, since she makes such a better dual wall (so much so, that she's one of the best counters to Dragon Dance Salamence, with Bold and maxed EVs in Defense), but even for a special sweeper, your moveset is screwed up.

First of all, the basic rule of thumb is to NEVER use two moves of the same attacking type. While there are loop holes in this (Draco Meteor paired with something like Dragon Claw), it doesn't work for Milotic. So bag Hydro Pump, and stick with Surf, since Hydro Pump sucks in general with its low accuracy.

Secondly, Dragon Pulse is slightly redundant...
the only thing Dragon Pulse can take out with ease is Dragons, and Ice Beam solves that problem completely (and perhaps a bit better). Only reason to add Dragon Pulse in there is if you really fear Kingdra.

As a special sweeper, she doesn't really need a recovery move, but it can help. So at least bag Hydro Pump for Recover. Or you can go with my favourite set, the dual wall:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 84 HP, 252 Def, 12 Spd, 106 SAtk, 56 SDef
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Hypnosis

Makes a fantastic annoyer, and with that Defense, she can easily take out (usually OHKO) someone like Garchomp, granted he hasn't beefed up with Swords Dance. And with her already great Special Defense, she can also take out Choice Specs Salamence; mine OHKOed SpecsMence when I faced one. Hypnosis can be iffy with its accuracy, but Milotic has the defense power to be able to miss a few times.

ok i was going to dump hydro pump because of the reason he said but im not taking both hydro pump and dragon pulse for recover andtoxic/hypnosis
so pretty much what im saying is what move should i replace HP with
oh and where can i get the berries that lower the base atk so i can get my defense higher

sims796 July 21st, 2007 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651078)
screw you guys when i win that tournament today at eb games then you wont be able to mock my milotic
(which could prolly kill most of your guys)

This is what I'm talking about. Which could probably kill us? Ludicrous. Screw us? We were just telling you the truth. Cockiness won't help you, neither will believing that moveset is good. Bleach is too nice for his own good. No, scratch that. I've seen the advice he gave. I can only assume that he is a terrific trainer. He was too nice for your own good.


I was like that too, thinking I was the best. I was even gonna give Leaf Storm & Energy Ball to Torterra. Man was I dumb.

Azonic July 21st, 2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651802)
ok where is your proof of me saying that all i said is that it could take out level 55 guys when it was at a lower level and you guys just assume that im saying my milotic is the best thing i know she isnt

Hmm... thats a hard one
Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2647953)
i dont know whats with you guysrating my milotic with a 2 and a 0!!!!
she could take down a level 55 in one hit with a surf at level 37 a 3 im ok with but a 0

thats not it
Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651078)
screw you guys when i win that tournament today at eb games then you wont be able to mock my milotic
(which could prolly kill most of your guys)

thats not it either
Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651651)
you guys dont know anythingso dont say you do i use my moves in a strategic way and im deffinatley not a rookiemaybe you guys think i am cuz it will make you guys feel better and im getting a mod to close this thread

nope... definitely not that one
Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651686)
ya ones that have attract,confuse ray i hate those moves im not going to use them if i dont like them

and what is it to you if i say my milotic can kill a level 55 woop dii doo

Hmmm... i don't think so
Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651774)
my friend AKA master beaver ggave me this move set except he said to have recover replace one of the moves i have
oh and if you want to battle my milotic it might be a week or 2 cuz thats when im gtting a laptop with wi- fi

Eh? No!

Oh thats right... ALL OF THESE!!!

Anti July 21st, 2007 10:10 AM

Very funny (no sarcasm). You (codymr14) did say it was the best (just look at the post before mine), so admit your mistake. My old ruby teams would've got smashed by people on this forum, but not ONE of them would go down to that except my dragons.

codymr14 July 21st, 2007 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2651854)
Hmm... thats a hard one

thats not it

thats not it either

nope... definitely not that one

Hmmm... i don't think so

Eh? No!

Oh thats right... ALL OF THESE!!!

ok i was starting to cool down now you are just starting to #### me off cuz if you saw in my quote from richard steel im trying to get advice thn you pull this

Anti July 21st, 2007 10:21 AM

You know cussing or putting asterisks to imply it is a curse word
is against the rules. I'm so tired of hearing you mouth us off. You asked for proof, Peguinpal6 gave you proof, and now you're mad at him. Go ride the marry-go-round at snoopyland (at cedar point) or start acting more mature and not flame our advice. You put this upon yourself. That second chance I was talking about-GONE. codymr14, I hope the number in your username isn't your age because if it is you should replace it with "2" to show your age. So it's settled, your new username is "codymr2." I have nothing more to yell-I mean say.

peabobo's sexy legs July 21st, 2007 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codymr14 (Post 2651078)
screw you guys when i win that tournament today at eb games then you wont be able to mock my milotic
(which could prolly kill most of your guys)

If you win that tornament, I am going to vomit.

Milotic
Mirror Coat
Surf
Ice Beam
Dragon Pulse

codymr14 July 21st, 2007 10:27 AM

ya thats real mature well i agree my milotic sucks im going to get a good natured feebas evolve it and get some advice thats was all i was aplying that last time but honestly you see people swaring like a sailor in these forums but this is the first time i even meant to do something like that so dont believe me if you dont want to or acept my apology for being rude but like my latias thing says if you get me going i wont stop until im satisfied

Anti July 21st, 2007 10:28 AM

Not me, I would megavomit!

EDIT: Just read Codymr2's post. I guess you can be Codymr14 again and apology accepted but you have to calm down on these forums.

peabobo's sexy legs July 21st, 2007 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2651950)
You know cussing or putting asterisks to imply it is a curse word
is against the rules. I'm so tired of hearing you mouth us off. You asked for proof, Peguinpal6 gave you proof, and now you're mad at him. Go ride the marry-go-round at snoopyland (at cedar point) or start acting more mature and not flame our advice. You put this upon yourself. That second chance I was talking about-GONE. codymr14, I hope the number in your username isn't your age because if it is you should replace it with "2" to show your age. So it's settled, your new username is "codymr2." I have nothing more to yell-I mean say.

Wait... he's 2? 2 what? Weeks?


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