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Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 12:00 PM

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Impish
252 hp / 168 Def / 90 Sp.Def
Wish
Toxic
Mean Look
Baton Pass


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Bold
252 HP / 252 Def
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

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Jolly
Blaze
6 HP / 252 Attk / 252 Spd
Thunder Punch
Blaze Kick
Close Combat
Flamethrower

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Marvel Scale
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp. Attk
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover

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Serene Grace
Timid
92 HP/ 196 Sp. Atk / 164 Spd
Calm Mind
Energy Ball
Thunderbolt
Psychic


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Jolly
252 Attk/252 Speed/6 HP
Spore
Substitute
Rock Slide
Focus Punch

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 12:03 PM

Milotic @:Leftovers
Trait:Marvel Scale
Bold Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk.

Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 12:05 PM

Why sleep talk and rest? It has recover, which takes a little less time, even thought it only heald 1/2 HP, its still a bit easier than Rest/Sleep Talk...

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Freshness (Post 2670691)
Why sleep talk and rest? It has recover, which takes a little less time, even thought it only heald 1/2 HP, its still a bit easier than Rest/Sleep Talk...

Yes. but Trust me, it's actually meant to take adventage of Marvel scale. Even the Guy's at serebii agreed with me.

Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 12:12 PM

I see, but Milotic is one of my Sweepers, so adding on those two would make sweeping useless... because i'd only have two attack moves.

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 12:14 PM

alright, be sturborn why does everyone disagree with me? if you are going to make a thread, then at least take the advice we're giving. just trust me, it's the best Milotic moveset. (and yes, i say trust me too much). becuase everyone disagrees with me.

Always and Never July 26th, 2007 12:19 PM

I totally agree with you. Milotic isn't a special sweeper, she's a wall.

Dur.

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXscytherXx (Post 2670739)
I totally agree with you. Milotic isn't a special sweeper, she's a wall.

Dur.

So you agree with me? yay, someone finally agrees with me. take that JimmyRay!!

Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 12:23 PM

*see's Serebii's Pokedex*
I just noticed it, ive always thought that it had higher Sp. Attack thna Sp. Defense, so i'll edit
*mauled*

Jimmyray July 26th, 2007 12:25 PM

You and your Rest/Sleep talk! Don't waste those moves on a Milotic! People disagree because your wrong! Anyways I don't like that

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Quiet
252 HP / 48 Def / 104 Sp. Attk
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Sing

How about:

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Quiet
255 hp/109 Sp.Def
Stealth Rock
Seismic Toss
Light Screen
Softboiled

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2670756)
You and your Rest/Sleep talk! Don't waste those moves on a Milotic! People disagree because your wrong! Anyways I don't like that

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Quiet
252 HP / 48 Def / 104 Sp. Attk
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Sing

How about:

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Quiet
255 hp/109 Sp.Def
Stealth Rock
Seismic Toss
Light Screen
Softboiled

Alright, fine listen to an unexperienced rmt'er. he doesn't even know that Bold On Blissey is Classic.

Soulinferno July 26th, 2007 12:27 PM

Milotic is better as a duel wall not a special wall

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bold nature
ice beam
surf
recover
hypnosis
192HP, 180 def, 48 Spd, 90 Sp Att


thats what my milotic has and it works wonders for me a great annoyer with hypnosis and recover.

Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi Uchiha (Post 2670695)
Yes. but Trust me, it's actually meant to take adventage of Marvel scale. Even the Guy's at serebii agreed with me.

He's right there, if Milotic's asleep, then its defense raises, and if you can make it hold a Lum Berry, it will quickly wake up and still have the bonus of Marvel Scale...

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Freshness (Post 2670785)
He's right there, if Milotic's asleep, then its defense raises, and if you can make it hold a Lum Berry, it will quickly wake up and still have the bonus of Marvel Scale...

Leftovers, he doesn't need Lum Berry. -_-

Jimmyray July 26th, 2007 12:34 PM

But when using Sleep Talk, there is a 33% chance of Milotic using Rest.

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2670791)
But when uing Sleep Talk, there is a 33% chance of Milotic using Rest.

Yes, 33% not 100%. so get out.

Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 12:35 PM

So, if your holding Lum Berry, you wouldnt need Sleep Talk... because she would already be awake anyways...

Jimmyray July 26th, 2007 12:42 PM

Lol, forget the lum berry. It's a waste of an item. Seriously that's a really bad moveset for Milotic. I'll talk to Marriland.

Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 12:43 PM

True, if you used the Lum Berry, then you might as well be using Recover instead...


Edited Milotic's EV's and Moveset

Not a Nazi July 26th, 2007 1:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Freshness (Post 2670670)
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Impish
252 hp / 168 Def / 90 Sp.Def
Wish
Toxic
Mean Look
Baton Pass

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Bold
252 HP / 128 Def / 128 Sp. Def
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

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Adamant
Blaze
6 HP / 252 Attk / 252 Spd
Thunder Punch
Blaze Kick
Close Combat
Swords Dance

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Marvel Scale
Bold
252 HP / 252 Sp. Attk / 6 Def
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover/Rest
Hypnosis/Sleep Talk/Mirror Coat

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Serene Grace
Timid
92 HP/ 196 Sp. Atk / 164 Spd
Doom Desire
Energy Ball
Wish/Thunderbolt
Psychic

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Adamant
252 atk/252 speed/6 HP
Poison Heal
Substitute
Stone edge
Focus punch
Spore

Note, i have not yet captured ANY of these pokemon, so dont ask for a Battle...*killed* I just want to make sure they're good before actually catching them and training...


Changes in bold. ;)

(25 char limit....)

Sora_8920 July 26th, 2007 2:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not a Nazi (Post 2671088)
Changes in bold. ;)

(25 char limit....)

Jolly for Infernape Please. and jolly for Breloom also please.

Royal Freshness July 26th, 2007 3:51 PM

Edited...Okay, is Jirachi's EV's okay? I wasnt completely sure about them...

Extric July 26th, 2007 4:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Freshness (Post 2670670)
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Bold
252 hp / 252 DEF / 6 Sp. DEF
Wish
Toxic
Mean Look
Baton Pass

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Bold
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 Sp. DEF
Seismic Toss
Thunderwave
Softboiled
Aromatherapy

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Jolly
252 ATK / 232 SPD / 42 HP
Stone Edge
Flare Blitz
Close Combat
Swords Dance

[Stone Edge and Expert Belt OHKO Salamence and Gyarados even after being Intimidated]

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Bold
252 HP / 136 DEF / 120 Sp. ATK
Surf
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk


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Timid
252 HP / 216 SPD / 20 Sp. ATK
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Substitute
Psychic

[Blissey Killer. With maximum HP Jirachi can create a Substitute that Blissey is unable to break with Seismic Toss, allowing you to boost with Calm Mind.]

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Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Poison Heal
Seed Bomb
Stone edge
Focuspunch
Spore

[Seed Bomb takes out Swampert]

Note, i have not yet captured ANY of these pokemon, so dont ask for a Battle...*killed* I just want to mkae sure they're good before accutally catching them and training...

All of my fixes are in bold.

Lord Mike July 26th, 2007 5:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Freshness (Post 2670670)
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Impish
252 hp / 168 Def / 90 Sp.Def
Wish/Confuse Ray
Toxic/Confuse Ray
Mean Look
Baton Pass

Confuse Ray can be helpful if they're trapped.

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Bold
252 HP / 252 Def
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

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Jolly
Blaze
6 HP / 252 Attk / 252 Spd
Thunder Punch
Blaze Kick
Close Combat
Substitute

Infernape can't survive one freaken attack. Use Sub until Liechi activates and sweep.

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Marvel Scale
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover
Toxic

Alright, make up you mind on the moveset for Milotic. This is possibly the best one though. Hypnosis has 60% accuracy, and thanks to Sleep Cause in the metagame you can only put one Pokemon to sleep in the whole opponent's party. Anyway, Toxic hits 100% of the time, while also wearing down the opponent. BP Umbreon's Mean Look to Milotic to trap the enemy, and then use Toxic wear down things like Snorlax that are usually hard to defeat.

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Serene Grace
Timid
92 HP/ 196 Sp. Atk / 164 Spd
Calm Mind
Energy Ball
Rest/Thunderbolt
Psychic

Make up your mind man! You can't have two moves in one move slot. Too much Special Attack. More in HP and Defenses.

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Jolly
252 atk/252 speed/6 HP
Spore
Substitute/Swords Dance
Rock Slide/Swords Dance
Focus punch

This is now a killer Breloom.

4/10. Not too good, man. You need a lot of work.

Waffle-San July 26th, 2007 5:43 PM

The Spandex Cowboys (where have I heard this from), theres a catchy name for you. I think all the team help has been covered.


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