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My first serious team.
Hey guys, it took me quite a while to think it through. Although I might add these pokemon are just in theory and I probably can't really get some of them or some of their moves unless I have Wi-Fi.
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsa/dpmfsa482.png Azelf "Sp.Sweep Leader" [email protected] Sash 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Atk Flamethrower Psychic Grass Knot Explosion http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsa/dpmfsa385.png Jirachi "U-Turner" [email protected]/Shuca Berry (50% less from ground) 240 HP / 104 SDef / 164 Spd Ice Punch U-Turn Wish Reflect http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa143.png Snorlax "Hittin' Hard" [email protected] Band 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SDef Earthquake Crunch Fire Punch Return / Giga Impact / Counter http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa197.png Umbreon "Curser" [email protected] 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Mean Look Curse Wish Baton Pass http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsa/dpmfsa468.png Togekiss "Flincher" [email protected] 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Air Slash Aura Sphere Thunder Wave Roost http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfb/dpmfb477.png Dusknoir "Tank Beast" [email protected] 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SDef Ice Punch Shadow Punch / Shadow Sneak Earthquake Pain Split -*-*-*-*- Critique is welcomed. :p |
Jirachi
-Zen Headbutt -U-Turn -Wish -Reflect I would consider Life Orb for Sornlax or the basic Leftovers. |
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Timid nature on Azelf. Replace explosion with Nasty Plot. Jirachi with Leftovers, Zen Headbutt over Ice Punch for STAB and flinch hax. Snorlax wants lefties with Crunch/Return/Curse/Rest Bad Umbreon set. Gyarados will Taunt and get free DDs with that set. Only snorlax benefeits from Curse anyways. Togekiss needs Air Slash over Aerial Ace with 0 attack EVs and a -Attack nature, you wouldn't do anything with Aerial Ace anyways. Dusknoir wants Shadow Sneak/Will-O-Wisp/Pain Split/Thunderpunch. I'd give him a few Atk EVs too. |
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- Azelf: Focus Sash (Naive nature) is there for a reason, Exploding in their face would be so awesome if they think they counter me perfectly. Nasty Plotting always seemed too risky for me. - Jirachi: Yea I know Zen Headbutt is the ideal move there, But I need a pokemon that can handle (and even surprise) those pesky Salamence and Garchomp for x4 effective damage (Dusknoir with Ice Punch isn't reliable enough IMO). - Snorlax: He really doesn't want it, espeically since my entire team is based around Umbreon's Curse and Jirachi's Reflect. - Umbreon: Ahh, you found my weakness, Gyarados. I wouldn't put him against Umbreon then. Thunder Punch on Dusknoir was a thought, but I'm really not so sure about that, considering there'll be only 1 Earthquaker on the team if I replace it on him. Oh, and Dusknoir also benefits from Curse. - Togekiss: Thank you, I got confused with the 2 moves. Obviously it wouldn't be a "flincher" if it didn't have Air Slash. Also, the nature is calm because he's supposed to be durable. - Dusknoir: I might actually use this set, although it narrows down my entire attackpool even more. I'm mostly relying on cursed Umbreon to baton pass the atk boost. Thank you very much. ;p |
I wouldn't rely on Umbreon that much if it gets KOed you pretty much lost.
And as a side note, everything except Dusknoir and maybe Jirachi gets 1hkoed by a Scarfcross. Azelf - Megahorn/Night Slash Jirachi - Earthquake if he runs it and you don't have shucka berry, Close Combat would 2hko it otherwise. Snorlax - Close Combat Togekiss - Stone Edge Umbreon - Megahorn |
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OH and MKDS, Azelf DOES have Naive nature.. and Togekiss wasn't meant for the sole purpose of Nasty Plot. |
Not with Hera's speed. Lol. People don't lead with Hera. Stealth Rock/Sandstorm = No Focus Sash. Also Hera may be able to survive a Flamethrower without a Nasty Plot.
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Focus Sash on naive azelf starter is good. to all those who say otherwise, wtf do you know? aside from that, you're really gonna need tbolt on azelf. psychic + tbolt + grass knot covers everything. the only benefit of having flamethrower is bulky grass like Meganium, which you would almost never run into anyway and for doing more damage to steels, which you wouldn't be able to do anyway considering no one would switch one in with azelf. i never liked u-turn on jirachi... and if you insist on ice punch for dragons, then you're very silly. first, you won't ohko salamence cus of intimidate, won't ohko garchomp because of it's hp + defense, and won't ohko them because they're faster than you and will probably ko you before you get the chance. you need to really rework how you want to use jirachi. snorlax is fine (return is preferred), but it's not as effective as Selfdestruct/Counter lax. but i dunno, i think choice band lax will work for your team. umbreon: i know i suggested this moveset, but it needs a better EV spread. go with something like 252 HP/212 SP DEF/44 DEF. it needs to be able to take special hits, and trap special sweepers so that you can build its attack and defense and transfer it to either dusknoir, jirachi, or snorlax. togekiss' ev distribution is pretty bad. go with 252 HP/140 DEF/116 SP ATK. it's gonna need an extra kick in its hits to beat leftovers. your dusknoir moveset disturbs me, mostly because there are NO physical fighting attacks anywhere in your team. replace shadow punch with brick break. trust me when i say you will need it. next, give him some attack evs. you can go for 240 HP/84 DEF/128 SP DEF/56 ATK. you definitely need something with choice scarf. a tyranitar with choice scarf would embarass this team, so you really need to be prepared for pokes that'll go for a quick kill. the only thing that has a chance of taking tyranitar out is Dusknoir with Brick Break, which Crunch would really hurt him anyway. |
Thunderbolt over Flamethrower is just asking to get demolished by Weavile leads. Also, without Flamethrower you just get walled by steels. Saying don't run flamethrower on Azelf because steels wont switch in on you, is like saying don't run Psychic on Azelf because fighting/Poison pokemon will never switch in on you.
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ok, first, no one leads with weavile unless it has focus sash, which would therefore render flamethrower useless on azelf. secondly, without thunderbolt on a lead, his team gets raped by gyara. third, what steels other than metagross can take a thunderbolt with no problem? azelf could 3OHKO metagross with tbolt while metagross would have to 2OHKO azelf, which if you haven't yet considered, azelf is faster.
finally, as i said, thunderbolt gives it more coverage. thank you, come again. |
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And Metagross 1hko's Azelf just so you know. Yea, Focus Sash is into consideration. Stealth Rocks and Sandstorm is too. Unless you stay as a lead the whole time, which Azelf will then just get walled by Blissey. You wanna explode? Sure but then your special sweeper is gone. Darn. |
First of all, MKDS: Zen Headbutt doesn't raise critical hit, and it has 90 accuracy, so that's why I didn't give it priority.
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Thanks Samson, replied in bold. <3 |
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