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DemonPrince July 28th, 2007 6:15 AM

OU's aplenty. Rate team please!
 
Okay, here's my team

[email protected]
Trait:Solid Rock
252 HP, 70 Attack, 182 Def
Nature:Adamant
Avalanche
EQ
Stone Edge
Megahorn

[email protected] Band
Trait:The speed boost one (what's it called?)
252 HP, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
-Substitute
-X-scissor
-Baton Pass
-Swords Dance

[email protected] Club
Trait:Rock Head
252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
-EQ
-Double-edge
-Stone Edge
-Swords Dance (or maybe a fire attack, might change it)

[email protected] Band
Trait:Sand Veil
252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
-EQ
-Dragon Claw
-Swords Dance
-Fire Fang

[email protected] Specs
Trait:Synchronize
252 Speed, 252 Sp. attack, 4 HP
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Trick

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Trait:Natural Cure
252 HP, 252 Defence, 4 Sp. Def
-Seismic Toss
-Thunder Wave
-Aromatherapy
-Soft Boiled

Feel free to criticize!

R.A.M. July 28th, 2007 7:27 AM

Well, this is one of the best teams I've seen here;)
Here are some things I would change:
-Rhyperior: EV spreading.
-Ninjask: Focus Sash instead of Focus band, since it is (almost)always killed with the first hit.
-Marowak: everything's fine with me.
-Garchomp: same as Blissey.
-Alakazam: I would go with guard Swap instead of Trick since I like Tanks.
-Blissey: You would like to add Ice Beam for Gengar, you (almost)always find one when battling.

I give a 9/10 to your Team.

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 7:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.A.M. (Post 2677590)
Well, this is one of the best teams I've seen here;)
Here are some things I would change:
-Rhyperior: EV spreading.
It's not wrong really

-Ninjask: Focus Sash instead of Focus band, since it is (almost)always killed with the first hit.
Agreed

-Marowak: everything's fine with me.

-Garchomp: I would go with Ice fang instead of Fire, butthat is just me.
He can't learn it and fire fang is for bronzong and skarm

-Alakazam: I would go with guard Swap instead of Trick since I like Tanks.
Lol

-Blissey: You would like to add Ice Beam for Gengar, you (almost)always find one when battling.
And you need it for Garchomp

I gove a 9/10 to your Team.

Well, then that just sums it up

peabobo's sexy legs July 28th, 2007 7:55 AM

Marowak was OU in previous generations but generally has shown little sign of fourth gen activity.

~el fin del poste:t178:

DemonPrince July 28th, 2007 9:42 AM

For ninjask, i put a sash on him

blissey, i dont know what to take off for ice beam

and whats with alakazam??

Faceless* July 28th, 2007 9:57 AM

Ice Punch from Metagross is a big enemy to your team xD

but was Marowak really OU in the previous?

R.A.M. July 28th, 2007 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKDS_PoKE (Post 2677621)
Well, then that just sums it up

Oh, sorry about Garchomp, I was looking at my Luxray's profile when I was posting, XD.

Wait! I just remembered, that team can be KO by an Ice punching Weavile!

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.A.M. (Post 2678085)
Oh, sorry about Garchomp, I was looking at my Luxray's profile when I was posting, XD.

Wait! I just remembered, that team can be KO by an Ice punching Weavile!

Nice observation. I was waiting for someone to say that. Choice banding weavile will own this team with Ice Punch, not to mention outspeeding everything except Ninjask.

For reference, here is weavile's analysis:

http://m2a.wikispaces.com/weavile

Here is the actually set:

Revenge Killer
Item: Choice Band / Life Orb
Preferred Nature: Jolly
Ability: Pressure
EV Spread: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Ice Punch
- Pursuit
- Brick Break / Night Slash
- Aerial Ace

Ice Punch for STAB. Out speeds any dragon not using Choice Scarf and faints it. Bring it in against a psychic type using a psychic moves and then use Pursuit to hit it and most likely faint it on the switch. Brick Break to hit Tyrantitar, Night Slash if you want a dark attack other than Pursuit. Aerial Ace for Heracross. While Choice Band is recommended here, Life Orb is also an option if you don't like being locked into one move.

MegaDitto July 28th, 2007 11:21 AM

[email protected] Sash/Lum Berry
Trait:Sand Veil
252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Swords Dance
-Fire Fang

DemonPrince July 29th, 2007 8:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKDS_PoKE (Post 2678107)
Nice observation. I was waiting for someone to say that. Choice banding weavile will own this team with Ice Punch, not to mention outspeeding everything except Ninjask.

For reference, here is weavile's analysis:

http://m2a.wikispaces.com/weavile

Here is the actually set:

Revenge Killer
Item: Choice Band / Life Orb
Preferred Nature: Jolly
Ability: Pressure
EV Spread: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Ice Punch
- Pursuit
- Brick Break / Night Slash
- Aerial Ace

Ice Punch for STAB. Out speeds any dragon not using Choice Scarf and faints it. Bring it in against a psychic type using a psychic moves and then use Pursuit to hit it and most likely faint it on the switch. Brick Break to hit Tyrantitar, Night Slash if you want a dark attack other than Pursuit. Aerial Ace for Heracross. While Choice Band is recommended here, Life Orb is also an option if you don't like being locked into one move.

Wait, can't I just put a Weavile on the team? Brick Break to take care of an opposing Weavile. I could take off Marowak for it.

Seol July 29th, 2007 8:34 AM

Re Marowak, and this might be a stupid question, but is EQ better than Bonemarang here?

Total power is the same (2 hits at 50 each on Bonemarang), you're sacrificing 100% accuracy (down to 90%) for the ability to hit through Substitutes.

peabobo's sexy legs July 29th, 2007 8:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seol (Post 2681493)
Re Marowak, and this might be a stupid question, but is EQ better than Bonemarang here?

Total power is the same (2 hits at 50 each on Bonemarang), you're sacrificing 100% accuracy (down to 90%) for the ability to hit through Substitutes.

Substitutes are very common, especially on Electric types.

~el fin del poste:t178:

Seol July 29th, 2007 9:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 2681555)
Substitutes are very common, especially on Electric types.

~el fin del poste:t178:

Exactly my point - he has Earthquake and I'm saying Bonemarang would give extra versatility for a really relatively minor tradeoff.

peabobo's sexy legs July 29th, 2007 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seol (Post 2681589)
Exactly my point - he has Earthquake and I'm saying Bonemarang would give extra versatility for a really relatively minor tradeoff.

Oh, I thought it was the opposite. =P

~el fin del poste:t178:

MKDS_PoKE July 29th, 2007 9:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonprince7 (Post 2681453)
Wait, can't I just put a Weavile on the team? Brick Break to take care of an opposing Weavile. I could take off Marowak for it.

I guess, and marowak isn't really the best pokemon anymore. It used to be bp'd swords dances and speed, but now it's not as much of a threat as weavile.

DemonPrince July 29th, 2007 1:05 PM

So many Weavile comments...okay, I'll but a Weavile on my team in place of Marowak... now I have to EV train and breed a Weavile...oh well! Its worth it.

Maybe I should take out BPing all together. I really don't know


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