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PlayaFritz July 28th, 2007 10:10 AM

Suggestions for a sp wall
 
I need one for my team, but i really dont want to go with a blissy, I want to know some good other pkmn out there with a good capability to sp wall, they don't have to be amazing, just competant

Towlie July 28th, 2007 10:12 AM

Regice has a huge special defense.

Sora_8920 July 28th, 2007 10:19 AM

Bronzong anyone? seriously, 364 Special Defense.

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlayaFritz (Post 2678076)
I need one for my team, but i really dont want to go with a blissy, I want to know some good other pkmn out there with a good capability to sp wall, they don't have to be amazing, just competant

Bronzong, Slowbro, and Cresselia do the job. But why not use blissey? It is overall THE best special wall in the game. =\

Sora_8920 July 28th, 2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKDS_PoKE (Post 2678113)
Bronzong, Slowbro, and Cresselia do the job. But why not use blissey? It is overall THE best special wall in the game. =\

Yeah, i would use Blissey. it's not just the best special wall in the game, it's a good Cleric. plus not to mention, it has humungios (Sp?) HP.

R.A.M. July 28th, 2007 10:25 AM

Good special walls:

-Blissey
-Bronzong
-Muk, also good HP
-Ledian, the only problem is that it is weak to almost everything.
-Probopass
-Dusknoir
-Gallade, maybe, but it has great attack too
-Dusknoir

Faceless* July 28th, 2007 10:30 AM

Vaporeons not too bad for a sp. wall

Item : Leftovers
Moves :
Surf
Haze/Substitute
Wish
Ice Beam

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi Uchiha (Post 2678121)
Yeah, i would use Blissey. it's not just the best special wall in the game, it's a good Cleric. plus not to mention, it has humungios (Sp?) HP.

Actually, yes it is the best special wall in the game.

Blissey Analysis:

http://m2a.wikispaces.com/blissey

Special Wall set:

Special Wall
Item: Leftovers
Preferred Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
EV Spread:
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam / Aromatherapy
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam / Aromatherapy

Elementary is a good word to descrive it, it can stop 99% of the special sweepers dead in their tracks.
Seismic Toss is a reliable damage attack doing 100 HP every time, but be aware for 101 HP Substitute users.
I recomend using Ice Beam over Thunder Wave this generation, becouse Garchomp will make you cry if you dont.

Sora_8920 July 28th, 2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKDS_PoKE (Post 2678147)
Actually, yes it is the best special wall in the game.

Blissey Analysis:

http://m2a.wikispaces.com/blissey

Special Wall set:

Special Wall
Item: Leftovers
Preferred Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
EV Spread:
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam / Aromatherapy
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam / Aromatherapy

Elementary is a good word to descrive it, it can stop 99% of the special sweepers dead in their tracks.
Seismic Toss is a reliable damage attack doing 100 HP every time, but be aware for 101 HP Substitute users.
I recomend using Ice Beam over Thunder Wave this generation, because Garchomp will make you cry if you dont.

I didn't say it wasn't the best special wall in the game, read the post again. i said nothing about that. anyways, i was just adding some things to your special wall theory. Edit: if you read just after the word not the word is Just. some people don't like to read, do they?

Punishment July 28th, 2007 10:35 AM

Why hasnt Milotic been mentioned?

She is quite a potent Special Wall with a not so bad Special Attack to back her up and a decent abilty to bolster her okay defense.

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punishment (Post 2678156)
Why hasnt Milotic been mentioned?

She is quite a potent Special Wall with a not so bad Special Attack to back her up and a decent abilty to bolster her okay defense.

Forgot about milotic. Though it's better as a physical wall.

Punishment July 28th, 2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKDS_PoKE (Post 2678159)
Forgot about milotic. Though it's better as a physical wall.

Yeah most people use her as a physical scratch post these days along with the Sleep Talk moveset but she can still serve wonders in the special wall role.

Faceless* July 28th, 2007 10:47 AM

Snorlax also makes a good sp. wall doesnt it?

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nameless111 (Post 2678187)
Snorlax also makes a good sp. wall doesnt it?

It's not as good as it was in Advance :o

PlayaFritz July 28th, 2007 11:05 AM

What about Mantine, its sp defense is of the charts

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlayaFritz (Post 2678233)
What about Mantine, its sp defense is of the charts

No, its bad =\ dont use it

Pkmn Trainer Alex July 28th, 2007 11:08 AM

I personally love Gardevoir as a Special Wall...

And, although I haven't actually experienced this myself, I believe there was Suicune w/ Calm Mind. Though I don't know how D/P has changed such a strategy to say if it still is effective.

sims796 July 28th, 2007 11:08 AM

Wait, Mantine, or its sp.defence?

MKDS_PoKE July 28th, 2007 11:09 AM

Calmcune or "Suicune With Calm Mind" only special walls when it gets atleast 2 or 3 CM's. He was one of my favs back in Adv. Suicune isnt used much anymore this gen though.

AztecSunshine July 28th, 2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2678245)
Wait, Mantine, or its sp.defence?

his base ps defence is 140 and i am going to use one and he has a pretty good attacks 2

sims796 July 28th, 2007 11:19 AM

The only thing that knocks him down is his sucky moveset.

PlayaFritz July 28th, 2007 11:21 AM

What would be a good nature/moveset for Probopass?

Towlie July 28th, 2007 11:27 AM

I can't believe no one else mentioned Regice. 200 Base Special defense isn't something to laugh at. He's able to reach a max of 548 special defense at level 100, and he's a boltbeamer.

He has the 2nd highest base special defense, only surpassed by Shuckle.


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