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COULD THIS BE THE ULTIMATE TEAM????!
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!
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Wow, that's really hard to read all bunched up.
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I dont know about ultimate, but its pretty darn good, you should join chibay's pokemon league.
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It looks like you took some pokémon from other threads, took some moves, and threw in whatever you felt like. But that's just me. And Heal Bell on Blissey? Here's a something that might help Blissey
Blissey @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure Nature: Bold EVs: 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF Moves: Aromatherapy Softboiled Seismic Toss Ice Beam / Thunder Wave |
252 special defense EVs? Try switching the EVs in defense with the sp. D EVs.
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There is NO such thing as "the Ultimate Team". Get the silly little notion out of your head this instant. Like I'm not a noob said (which is ironically a very noobish name), it looks like you took six Pokemon from Smogon analyses and put them into a team. An Infernape or enemy Electivire can easily make short work of your team, since you rely so much on SkarmBliss to wall. Cresselia takes care of both of those and could be a replacement for Jirachi, since it learns Reflect as well. Nasty Plot Azelf and Porygon-Z threaten to destroy your entire team (including Blissey). I would look into Calm Mind Bliss to solve those problems. Does your Shiny Gyarados have good IVs? Good IVs > Shininess any day of the week. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
Aragorn, I have a question. Considering you're the mod and all you sound like a really good trainer so tell me this. If that shiny had pretty good IVs vs. a normal pokemon with even better IVs, who do you take? Maybe try some more surprises in your movesets since this team is rather predictable no offense, just very standardish, especially Skarmbliss.
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And yeah, I did follow the exact suggestions posted on smogon. I think that smogon is the best source of information for competitive play, that's why I used their analyses. Quote:
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Azelf will need more than one nasty plot to OHKO blissey. And by the time azelf has enough power to kill blissey, it's just get asleep via Sing. Same thing applies for porygon-z unless the opponent is bold enough to pack Hyper Beam on it. Quote:
Salamence can wall off Infernape and suppress it's sweeping power. And I could predict an opponent Electivire's electric attack and bring in electivire to absorb it. Don't forget jirachi's tanking abilities as well. With reflect on, it can survive a Choice band Earthquake from an arena trap Dugtrio. But the main reason for selecting jirachi was for wishpassing. Doesn't my team need a wishpasser to heal up a weakened sweeper? Quote:
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My Blissey:
Blissey @ Leftovers Bold Nature Softboiled Aromatherapy Calm Mind Ice Beam/Seismic Toss That's what mine looks like. I didn't add its EV's cuz I'm too lazy. And there is no Ultimate Team; just n00bs with a bunch of crappy legends that aren't even trained properly who think they're unbeatable. I'm not saying you're a n00b but, NO ULTIMATE TEAMS, kay? No critiques on meh Blissey, thanks. @[email protected] |
They said your weak against Azlelf/Porygon Z, because your team has a gaping weakness to them. Sure, they are always a threat, but other teams are prepared for them.
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Big Weakness to Ice/Ground types.
Mamoswine can sweep through most of your team |
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Salamence can hydro pump/flamethrower on mamoswine (mence can survive an ice shard on full hp) and Gyarados can waterfall mamoswine. |
Salamence, Jirachi, Electivire are dead.
Blissey with high defense-dead. 4 and counting. |
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um....what do you mean they're "dead"? |
Mamoswine will sweep through them all 4. Thats what dead means.
And you have no walls for Mamoswine as all its Ice Attacks are normal effective on Gyarados and Skarmory. |
i have to agree good, but not ultimate.
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I'd watch out for Trick Room-swapper.
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If you have such confidence in your team, it would be nice if you could go through a counters list for us. Slowbro Gengar Weezing Starmie Gyarados Aerodactyl Dragonite Heracross Skarmory Donphan Blissey Suicune Raikou Swampert Breloom Salamence Metagross Jirachi Infernape Bronzong Garchomp Lucario Hippowdon Weavile Magnezone Rhyperior Tangrowth Electivire Togekiss Gliscor Porygon-Z Dusknoir Azelf Heatran Cresselia *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
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Here are the counters for that list: - Note that stealth rock is a given on anyone weak to rock. - The spamming-Intimidate strategy would only work if Stealth rock is not laid down. Slowbro - Gyarados w/ Taunt Gengar - Jirachi Weezing - Jirachi, Specsmence Starmie - Blissey Gyarados - Tough one here...I could keep switching in Salamence & gyarados on it to spam intimidate on it...and of course Stealth Rock. Aerodactyl - Skarmory Dragonite - Blissey, Jirachi, & Skarmory for DD variants and Salamence for non-DD variants. Heracross - Jirachi for Choice Band variants. Gyarados & Salamence for others. Skarmory - Gyarados w/ Taunt, Salamence, and Electivire. Donphan - Gyarados Blissey - Gyarados w/ Taunt and Electivire. Suicune - Electivire & Gyarados w/ Taunt (most Suicune don't have HP electric unless they're hacked. It's extremely hard for a legendary to get the best hidden power with the right power and type.) Raikou - Electivire & blissey. Swampert - Blissey & maybe good prediction. Breloom - Skarmory to whirlwind away subs. Also any super effective attacks can kill it OHKO. Salamence - My spam-Intimidate strategy on physical variants. Blissey for special variants. Most people don't use mixed sweeper Salamence. Metagross - Skarmory. Electivire to absorb thunderpunch. Salamence w/ flamethrower. Jirachi - Earthquake. Skarmory walls it. Infernape - Salamence. Maybe Jirachi for Infernapes with low speed IVs. Bronzong - Gyarados Garchomp - Skarmory and Salamence. Lucario - Gyarados and Salamence and Skarmory. Hippowdon - Gyarados and Salamence. Weavile - Gyarados and Skarmory. Magnezone - Blissey and Electivire. Rhyperior - Skarmory and spamming Intimidate. Tangrowth - Skarmory and Salamence. Electivire - Electivire Togekiss - Electivire Gliscor - Gyarados. Skarmory for Taunt-less Gliscors. Porygon-z - Blissey and basically anything faster than it. Dusknoir - Umm....I don't consider it a threat. Azelf - Blissey Heatran - Gyarados Cresselia - Blissey & maybe Jirachi w/ Uturn? lol |
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Don't double post, use edit. Anyways, Both are faser and if they have already powered up lots, blissey will go down.
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trust me, I had an azelf on my last team and it never got more than one nasty plot in competition. |
Even with one nasty plot it would still put a decent dent in blissey. Nothing spectacular, but it would hurt a little. Besides, whoever posted about how the nasty plot azelf could run through the entire team forgot one thing. If blissey came out, you could always switch to a CBsweeper and take out bliss in no time. Then azelf or who could come back out after that physical fainted could power up again and smash the team. There are also six pokemon on a team (duh), not only the two I just mentioned. That is the team's weakness.
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