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Rough Ideas for my new team, help please.
Now, so this is what I've got so far for my team.
Espeon Modest - Synchronize Calm Mind Psychic Shadow Ball Grass Knot EV's 252 Spatk, 252 Speed, 6 Spdef Ampharos Quiet - Static Signal Beam Power Gem Thunder Bolt Focus Blast EV's 252 Spatk, 126 HP, 126 Spdef Tyranitar Adamant - Sandstream Iron Head Brick Break Earthquake Ice Fang EV's 252 Attack, 252 HP, 6 Defense Metagross Adamant - Clear Body Meteor Mash Zen Headbutt Explosion Aglilty EV's 252 Attack, 252 defense, 6 HP Tangrowth Lax - Chlorophyll Sleep Powder Poison Powder Sunny Day Substitute EV's 252 HP, 176 Defense, 82 Spatk Aggron Impish - Rock Head Iron Defense Protect Double Edge Iron Head EV's 252 Defense, 126 HP, 126 Attack And help would be appreciated. I havent done anything yet for this team, so any changes will be appreciated. |
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I dont see whats wrong with Tyranitars current moveset. I lik it a lot. And I think Tangrowth needs a attacking move, maybe Ancient Power instead of Poison Powder?
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i thought you like jolteon? what's wrong with having it on the team? joleton's one of the better special sweepers and should be used if it's your favorite pokemon. i have one and it always does well for my team when i use it.
[email protected] volt absorb timid 252speed 252spatt 6hp -substitute -tbolt -baton pass -shadowball/agility/hp ice give that a try. it's good. |
If Tyranitar is your opening pokemon then try this.
Tyranitar @ Focus Sash/Leftovers -Stone Edge -Crunch -Earthquake/Rock Polish -Taunt Taunt to block anything like Stealth Rockers, along with Rock Polish for a better speed boost than Dragon Dance. |
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XD why no wailord? with choice scarf, it's actually pretty good. Wailord @ Choice Scarf Ability: Water Veil Hasty Nature 252 SPD/192 SP ATK/64 ATK -Surf -Ice Beam -Earthquake -Selfdestruct you really need something speedy on your team to use ice beam, surf, and earthquake. ice beam will take care of dragons, surf will take care of rock/ground/fire types, and earthquake is specifically for speedy electric types. finally, self destruct is for sacrificing wailord if perhaps you're having trouble with a blissey or some other annoying poke. |
Aggron's one of my walls. I have Tangrowth and Aggron as Walls, Ampharos and Espeon as Special Sweepers, and Metagross and Tyranitar as sweepers. Im keeping my current pokemon. And I like Jolteon, but I kind of screwed myself over with him a while back. Im restarting my Diamondgame, and moving my Pokemon back into the new game, fully EV trained. And I still like Tyranitars moveset. Plus, I have no Pokemion that know Dragon Dance... Or else I would use it. Iron Head, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Crunch maybe? And if I cant happen to get a Beldum or Tangela swarm, Im going to have Aerodactyl as a sweeper and relicanth as a wall for back up.
And for my style, so far the movesets I'd like to use are (only the changed ones) Tyranitar Iron Head Earthquake Stone Edge Crunch Metagross Meteor Mash Earthquake Agility Zen Headbutt Tangrowth Sleep Powder Ancient Power Substitute Sunny Day I really like these sets, plus my other ones (I adore Ampharos's, its perfect) |
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Espeon @Leftovers EVs: 196 HP / 122 SDef / 192 Spd Timid Nature -Psychic -Calm Mind -Substitute -Baton Pass Baton Passing Espeon hasn't changed a bit since Advance. Its goal is the same: pass special boosts and Subs to the teammates. Espeon @Choice Specs EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature -Psychic -Shadow Ball -Grass Knot -Hidden Power [Fighting/Fire] Now with Choice Specs, Espeon can go all out with its awesome Sp. Attack. Shadow Ball hits enemy Psychics, HP Fire for Steel/Psychics like Bronzong or Metagross, HP Fighting for Steels/Darks/Blissey, and Grass Knot to hit foes like Rhyperior or Swampert. Tangrowth @Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def Impish Nature -Power Whip -Leech Seed -Sleep Powder -Knock Off One of the most recommended Tangrowth sets. This guy can survive so many physical hits, even supereffective ones. Plus, it's got an array of annoying support moves to help you out. Leech Seed and Sleep Powder are very annoying together and with Knock Off, you can ruin so many Pokemon that rely on their item. Tangrowth @Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spd Adamant Nature -Power Whip -Earthquake -Rock Slide -Swords Dance Tangrowth has a nice physical movepool and can be a formidable sweeper. Power Whip is your key attack of course. Earthquake and Rock Slide provide coverage against Pokemon that are resistant to Grass - Flying, Fire, and Steel types. Tangrowth @Heat Rock/Lum Berry EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature Ability: Chlorophyll -Solarbeam -Hidden Power [Fire] -Sunny Day -Sleep Powder This revolves around Tangrowth's Chlorophyll ability. It just like any other Sunny Day sets you may have seen. HP Fire gets a boost in the Sun and helps against Steel and enemy Grass types. Sleep Powder knocks out anything else that tries to counter you. Aggron @Choice Band EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def Adamant Nature -Stone Edge -Earthquake/Focus Punch -Iron Head -Avalanche Aggron is a great UU sweeper that can still wall a lot of things. Stone Edge and Earthquake cover the majority of opponents. Focus Punch can be used over it if you happen to be good at prediction. Iron Head for a second STAB and Avalanche to hit Ground types. Aggron @Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def Impish Nature -Stone Edge/Rock Slide -Focus Punch -Substitute -Thunder Wave Paralyze your opponents with T-Wave and set up a Sub (you can also do it the other way around). Your opponent's Speed will be hampered and you can attack Aggron @Leftovers/Focus Sash EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def Brave/Relaxed Nature -Metal Burst -Taunt/Protect -Stone Edge -Earthquake/Focus Punch Aggron is one of only two Pokemon to learn Metal Burst (the other being Bastiodon). Use Protect to scout for your opponent's moves or Taunt to force them to use only offensive attacks. Then use Metal Burst to retaliate. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
Im thinking of switching Relicanth in instead of Aggron. Maybe Relicanth would have say...
Relicanth Impish - Rock Head Yawn Rest Head Smash Dive |
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Don't use Rest without Sleep Talk. You can't afford to lose two turns sleeping. Dive just sucks. Never use it. During the turn you Dive underwater, all your opponent will have to do is switch to something that resists Water. Plus, Surf's power is doubled while you're underwater, and that's definitely not a good thing. Relicanth @Choice Band Adamant Nature Ability: Rock Head -Head Smash -Waterfall/Aqua Tail -Earthquake -Double-Edge Relicanth @Leftovers Adamant Nature Ability: Rock Head -Head Smash -Waterfall/Aqua Tail -Rest -Sleep Talk *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
Ok, I've given up on Tangrowth. (I dont have wireless, not waiting for a swarm). Whats a good Pokemon I could use to replace it. I have Aerodactyl on my list, as well as Gallade and Sharpedo. But I need a good wall, so i was thinking maybe Claydol or Kecleon. Say any ideas for good pokemon I could use.
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Don't replace Tangrowth. It's just too good. What you should really replace are Espeon and Ampharos. They don't do much for the team and there are much better special sweepers out there. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
Yikes. Whats up with Tangrowth, Sleep Powder AND Poison Powder?
I would still stick with Tangrowth, seeing as you need a better Water-counter than Ampharos, and a Ground type can sweep through your team. I am pretty fond on Tangrowth. but the moveset sucks. [email protected] Rock Trait: Chlorophyll Nature: Modest/Timid EVs: 252 SP. DEF/252 SP. ATK/ 4 SPEED Sunny Day Solarbeam Growth/Amnesia Focus Blast I use Growth/Amnesia now, sudden change. With Chlorophyll and Sunny day, it should definitely be a Sweeper instead of support |
Uuuuh, ok i guess. Ampharos is one of my favorties though. I could go for a Gardevoir. Get it to learn Destiny Bond, maybe Will "O" Wisp. Breed with Wobbuffet, breed again with Dusclops... And I could go for a Yanmega too. Any more ideas for special sweepers, right now my team is. Oh, and Im probably going to go with Derfense instead of special defense. I dont think its really a special wall.
Tyranitar Metagross Tangrowth Relicanth ... ... |
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Penguinpal, I've told you in this post to stop using that Tangrowth set. It's horrible. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
OK, OK, HP is so damn annoying to get.
OK you need a pure wall. Cresselia, Uxie, and Registeel are my favorites. Probopass, Dusknoir, Bastiodon, and Bronzong work well too. Rhyperior has Physical Tank stats and an awesome ability, I've loved it ever since I hated Torkoal, which was just today |
I dont use legendaries, and I couldnt stand having that moustche on my team. And if Tangrowth is now a special sweeper for some reason, I need to dispose of him, get a wall, and two new special sweepers. I need ideas for them. Maybe Glaceon and Gardevoir? And a wall... Bronzong could work...
Is Bronzong with Hypnosis Dream Eater Iron Defense Rock Slide Good enough? I can only have one EQ, and Im saving it for Metagross. |
I hate Dream Eater, the opponent can just easily switch out.
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I don't see anything wrong with Espeon as a Sp. Sweeper. If your looking for Sp. sweepers, try Porygon-Z or Magmortar.
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Ok, so i've rethought my team. If I dont get a Tangela Swarm this week, Im going to switch Cacturne in.
Relicanth Metagross Tyranitar Bronzong Gardevoir Cacturne/Tangrowth If anyone sees anything horribly wrong with this, go ahead and say so. And I need a nature for Cacturne. Its base attack and special attack are the same, as well as special defense and defense. So i was thinking like, a Brave nature? Or even like, Docile or Quirky. I cant decide what to increase and what to decrease... |
I prefer Probopass(my head is still spinning because it is a special attacker) over Bronzong. Neither of them can attack well but Probo has so much better defenses.
Psychic types I hate, they aren't diverse in movepool. You need a good fire type. Torkoal is pretty nice with Gyro Ball. |
hmm, well I dont really like Fire Types myself. I dunno really...
Tyranitar Metagross Gardevoir Yanmega Cacturne/Tangrowth Relicanth |
I don't either, I like penguin types. But I still keep My Heatran and Torkoal where they belong. Heatran/Tangrowth can handle a lot, I was told. And another Magmortar discussion pops up.
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I've been looking, and I really want a Hitmonlee for my team. So I have right now
Hitmonlee Carefull - Limber Blaze Kick Hi Jump Kick Substitute Focus Punch Gardevoir Modest - Synchronize Psychic Shadow Ball Energy Ball Calm Mind Tyranitar Adamant - Sandstream Crunch Stone Edge Earthquake Ice Fang Metagross Adamant - Clear Body Meteor Mash Earthquake Agility Zen Headbutt Tangrowth Impish - Chlorophyll Power Whip Sleep Powder Knock Off Leach Seed Relicanth Impish - Rock Head Sleep Talk Rest Head Smash Waterfall Any suggestions would be nice. |
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