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Angelic Diablo July 29th, 2007 4:08 AM

New Game = New Team
 
Rapidash
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 152 Spd, 104 HP
-Flare Blitz
-Double Edge
-Megahorn
-Agility

Went with Agility so I could use some EVs in HP instead of Speed

Garchomp
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Fire Fang
-Crunch

Torterra
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 142 Atk, 114 Def
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake
-Substitute
-Leech Seed

Not as good a Subseeder as Sceptile, but with his HP the subs don't break due to Seismic Toss

Magnezone
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Atk
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder wave
-Flash Cannon
-Explosion

Trying something different here, two STABs, paralysis, explode when near death

Vespiquen
Careful Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp Def, 4 Atk
-Defend Order
-Heal Order
-Attack Order
-Toxic

Unlikely Special Wall, can't take Super Effective hits, but does nicely with Pressure

Magmortar
Mild Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 200 Sp Atk, 56 Atk
-Cross Chop
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic

Somewhat Special Sweeper, Cross Chop for Blissey, everything else covers most types

Suggestions and comments are most welcome.

Iceman3k July 29th, 2007 4:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 2680913)
Rapidash
Jolly Nature
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
-Flare Blitz
-Double Edge
-Megahorn
-Hypnosis

Went with Agility so I could use some EVs in HP instead of Speed
Rapidash doesn't have the HP, OR the Defenses to even make a Bulky sweeper out of it. I'll admit, it is a good concept though.

Garchomp
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Fire Fang
-Stone Edge

Torterra
Impish Nature
EVs: 212 HP / 176 Def / 120 SDef
-Seed Bomb
-Earthquake
-Substitute
-Leech Seed

Not as good a Subseeder as Sceptile, but with his HP the subs don't break due to Seismic Toss
Torterra needs 404 HP or MORE to get unbreakable S-Toss Subs, and it only gets 394, so it's still susceptible to Blissey. Also, Wood Hammer only begs for more trouble when you suffer so much recoil damage if you try to attack Bliss.

Magnezone
Modest Nature
EVs: 168 HP / 120 Def / 220 SAtk
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder wave
-Flash Cannon
-Hidden Power (Grass) / Substitute

Trying something different here, two STABs, paralysis, explode when near death
Even if Magnezone has a Quiet Nature, he wouldn't have the Attack to actually Explode and KO something with. Also, you don't need Speed EVs if you're running Thunder Wave.

Vespiquen
Careful Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp Def, 4 Atk
-Defend Order
-Heal Order
-Attack Order
-Toxic

Unlikely Special Wall, can't take Super Effective hits, but does nicely with Pressure
This thing's typing is too horrible to actually make a wall.

Magmortar
Mild Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 200 Sp Atk, 56 Atk
-Cross Chop
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic

Somewhat Special Sweeper, Cross Chop for Blissey, everything else covers most types
Uh sure

Suggestions and comments are most welcome.

Just about ANY Dragon Dancer can come in and set up against you. Also not to mention that big glaring Electivire weakness in your team.

Angelic Diablo July 29th, 2007 4:42 AM

Thanks for your advice Iceman, and I was thinking about changing someone with an Arena Trapping Dugtrio, would he be a suitable counter to the afformentioned Electivire?

Iceman3k July 29th, 2007 4:48 AM

Dugtrio could work is a variety of situations. But in the event that Electivire actually switches into a Thunderbolt, you'd probably want to add a Good Choice Scarf Attacker to outspeed it, so probably running Garchomp with Adamant Nature and Choice Scarf should help a little better.

Angelic Diablo July 29th, 2007 4:50 AM

ok thanks again for the help Iceman

Azonic July 29th, 2007 7:15 AM

No Cross Chop on Magmortar, just switch in for Garchomp, Torterra, Rapidash or any other physical sweeper.

YOU HAVE A HUGE WEAKNESS TO MAMOSWINE!!! IT WILL SWEEP THROUGH YOUR TEAM LiKE !!

You need a good bulky water. Swampert over Rapidash.

So you have 2 fire types and 2 ground types. not the definition of a good team. water types are needed real bad.

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Trait: Torrent
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 ATK/252 HP/ 4 DEF

Curse/Rest
EQ
Waterfall
Avalanche

Angelic Diablo July 29th, 2007 3:27 PM

Actually both my ground types resist water attacks...

and just because I use somewhat similar types in my team doesn't make it bad. it's hard to make a good team with double element pokemon and not have at least one overlapping type


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