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Special Walls and all that stuff
Me again. I am rebuilding my team and am in desparate need of a strong special wall that doesn't have 10 weaknesses and/or mega low HP. BTW, I DON'T want blissey! I am trying not to make a super OU team, just a team of pokemon you don't see every single second. So there ya' go, any good special walls you guys can think of?
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Underrated special walls include Calm Milotic Calm Empoleon Careful/Sassy Registeel Careful/Sassy Bronzong Careful Snorlax If sandstorm is running, Careful Cradily makes a great special wall. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
Another one I just checked out was Probopass seems pretty good, plus with Lock-On/Zap Cannon, he packs a punch too, even if his attack and special attack stats arent soaring.
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Lock-On + Zap Cannon combo has always sucked. Probopass is another one of those Pokemon that can make a decent special wall if Sandstorm is running. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
Dang! I keep forgeting to mention I only have emerald and some of the other 3rd gen. games. I guess that narrows it down to milotic, Snorlax, and Registeel. Any others? I already have steelix so that would rule out registeel. I think I want to use cradily. Any good movesets cuz I suck with cradily (then again that was before I discovered there are more than just attack moves). Please help.
EDIT: Forgot my manners. Thanks for the help guys! |
4th gen is where all the great walls are.
Snorlax. |
Ugh, I hate that thing. I'll use it if I must, but can Cradily work?
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Para-flinching togekiss? It makes a real nice sweeper too ;/
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Haven't you read any of the above posts? This is for 3rd gen! Anyways, I came up with a cradily moveset. How's this:
[email protected] Calm Nature EVs: I suck with EV spreads ~Amnesia ~HP Grass ~Recover/Ingrain ~Substitute This a good special wall MS? Help is greatly appriciated. Thanks everyone. |
The problem with Probopass is that it has two 4x weaknesses. Even with its high defense, a STABbed Close Combat or Earthquake from a good sweeper is probably going to OHKO it.
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Urgh...This is 3rd gen...I'm so tired of saying that...Is the Cradily moveset good? I need help with the EVs and probably the moveset too. Toxic could replace substitute i think. Would that work?
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Um, Regice?
Yeah. Regice. |
Milotic and Vaporeon.
Vaporeon schools. Modest 252 hp/120 special attack/136 special defense Item:Leftovers Surf/Toxic/Wish/Acid Armor It could learn acid armor last gen, right? If not, go for Ice Beam instead. |
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Thats why there's Magnet Rise...
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Probopass can learn Psychic starting from today. :(
Grrr... Just swap pokemon out... :P |
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When pigs fly...
Probopass just switches out. |
Okay, people, back on topic. This is not a discussion about Probopass or even the same generation Probopass is in. Besides, Probopass is a special wall, not a physical wall so it's only natural that physical sweepers will be able to take it down.
And Cradily with Amnesia can make a decent special wall, but I'd really suggest Calmcune for special walling and general tanking: Suicune @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure Bold Nature EVs: 252 HP, 212 Defense, 44 Sp.Attack - Surf/Roar - Ice Beam/Roar - Rest - Calm Mind |
There's barely any difference between the 2 stats on Probo.
I hate Roar-Cune. |
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I'd personally want some SDef on Suicune if it's going to special wall (As protection from random Thunders while you set up) but EVs aren't my strong suit, so meh...also, since this is 3rd gen you should also remember good old Regice @ Leftovers Trait: Clear Body Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) Thunderbolt Ice Beam Rest Thunder Wave/Psych Up So standard it hurts. Psych Up turns it into a beast of a Jynx counter and a general nuisance for CM/Acid Armor abusers. :3 Don't remember the EVs, but it's most likely max HP with the rest in Def and SAtk. Also, Articuno can be a lot of fun, although its type combo puts it at a bit of a disadvantage: Articuno @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) EVs: Search me. I never get Cuno right. T_T Ice Beam Roar/Heal Bell Rest Reflect/Sleep Talk Heal Bell + Sleep Talk = coolness, but it requires pokémon XD. Unfortunately, that flying type means it's got a double Rock weak, which isn't cool at all although Reflect eases that problem a little. :\ Toxic is also a possible filler in there somewhere, depends on what you need it to do. :3 |
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Mantine works as well... :o
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Uh, okay. Thanks to the people who ACTUALLY stayed on topic. It's one thing if you wandered off topic but when both Smarties Kins and I said about a million times this is 3RD GEN. you ignored us. When I woke up and saw 23 responses I thought I'd have an answer to my problems, but didn't. Thanks to the people who actually helped. Here's where I'm at fault: Iforgot to mention I try not to use legendaries. I have an XD game and have caught Zapdos but not the other two. Still, I'd prefer no legends. I think I mentioned earlier my team already has a water type, so I'd prefer not to use mantine. If I used a legend, it woould be articuno as he's my fav legendary bird and strong at that. Would cradily (107 base special defense doubled after amnesia, better than regice at that point) still be a good Special wall? How about meganium? Or venusaur with light screen as an egg move? Just throwing some stuff out there. Respond if you are ACTUALLY responding to this. My sister put makeup and eye shadow on me this morning (I'm a guy) and this doesn't help my sour mood. Thanks again to all who ACTUALLY helped.
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