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Jimmyray July 30th, 2007 4:40 AM

My Swellow, Vespiquen and Blissey
 
I'm using these three pokemon in my non-uber team and just need some advice as to what the moveset natures could be. Currently I have:

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Modest
Guts

U-Turn
Bravebird
Protect
Facacde

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Jolly
Pressure

Attack Order
Heal Order
Toxic
Destiny Bond

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Adamant
Natural Cure

Attract
Softboiled
Stealth Rock
Light Screen

I need an attack move for Blissey, so what would be the best? I don't have access to Seismic Toss, but Counter and Return were on my mind.

Azonic July 30th, 2007 5:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2684920)
I'm using these three pokemon in my non-uber team and just need some advice as to what the moveset natures could be. Currently I have:

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Adamant
Guts

U-Turn
Bravebird
Steel Wing/Roost
Facacde

Why would you give it a Modest nature???

Vespi[email protected] Bell
Jolly
Pressure

Attack Order
Heal Order
Power Gem
Defend Order

It needs at least one Skarmory counter, and none of its attacks are super effective on Skarm, so Power Gem is there.

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Calm
Natural Cure

Thunderbolt
Softboiled
Thunder Wave/Calm Mind
Icebeam

Bolt-Beam Blissey, Special Wall Blissey

I need an attack move for Blissey, so what would be the best? I don't have access to Seismic Toss, but Counter and Return were on my mind.

OK, lets count the number of Returns a trainer uses on Blissey... zero! It cant physical attack.

OK follow this and you will be fine.

Jimmyray July 30th, 2007 5:11 AM

Swellow doesn't have the right defense to back up Roost, and I don't like Steel Wing. Protect would cover the turn of the flame orb taking place. I really don't know about natures, so that's why it was modest.

Azonic July 30th, 2007 5:21 AM

Protect is a waste since you have a valueable moveslot and you waste it on one turn!

Never use Flame ORb, instead use Toxic Orb. Flame Orb lowers the attack stat, which, BTW, is the key to it

Mr.City July 30th, 2007 5:52 AM

Actually, I hear different on flame orb.

Seol July 30th, 2007 6:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2684998)
Never use Flame ORb, instead use Toxic Orb. Flame Orb lowers the attack stat, which, BTW, is the key to it

Not with Guts. Guts negates the stat loss as well as providing its boost, which means Flame Orb is better as it deals less damage.

Lone--Wanderer July 30th, 2007 6:18 AM

Yes, but the boost isn't as big. Swellow needs all the boost it can get, since it's not exactly the greatest Pokemon in existance.

Towlie July 30th, 2007 7:02 AM

No. Guts negates burn halving the Atk. Flame Orb is needed over Toxic Orb, since burn gives less damage.

Anyways, Jolly or Adamant on Swellow, since I can't recall Swellow's speed. I beleive it's same base speed as Jolteon, so you may want to run max speed.

No clue on a set with Vespiquen.

Blissey really isn't good without Seismic Toss, don't even bother using it without it. And Adamant Nature on Blissey isn't good.


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