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Octazooka July 30th, 2007 11:54 AM

Rate /Fix My Team :]
 
Special Sweeper
[email protected]
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
-Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Wish
-Hidden Power [Ice]
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Physical Tank
[email protected] Bell
EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
-Curse
-Sythnesis
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake
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Bulky Water
[email protected] Berry
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
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Mixed Sweeper
[email protected] Orb
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
-Nasty Plot
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower
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Mixed Wall
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Brick Break
-Shadow Punch


I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)

MKDS_PoKE July 30th, 2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octazooka (Post 2686362)
Special Sweeper
[email protected]
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
-Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Wish
-Hidden Power [Ice]

Looks good, but, jolteon isn't meant to wish really. Over t-wave and wish, use baton pass and substitute.
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Physical Tank
[email protected] Bell
EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
-Curse
-Sythnesis
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake

Curser i guess
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Bulky Water
[email protected] Berry
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Seems alright
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Mixed Sweeper
[email protected] Orb
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
-Nasty Plot
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower

Ok as well. Nice seeing you using close combat even if it's physical.
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Mixed Wall
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Brick Break
-Shadow Punch

Wall eh? I'd suggest using it as a rapid spinner

I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)

Very good team I guess. :D

FlamesFan July 30th, 2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octazooka (Post 2686362)
Special Sweeper
[email protected]
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
-Thunder Wave Baton Pass
-Thunderbolt
-Wish
-Hidden Power [Ice]

Jolteon doesn't need Thunder Wave with it's speed. Baton Pass to pass Wish.
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Physical Tank
[email protected] Bell
EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
-Curse
-Sythnesis
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake

I'm iffy on the EV spread; maybe 128 Atk and Def with Leftovers. Consider Leech Seed maybe.
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Bulky Water
[email protected] Berry
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 128 DEF
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Not experienced with Lapras but I like that yours is a BoltBeamer.
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Mixed Sweeper
[email protected] Orb
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
-Nasty Plot Thunder Punch
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower

Infernape is too fragile to set up Nasty Plot, especially with Life Orb already equipped. T-Punch to counter waters. My EV spread for my Infernape is 244 Spd, 132 SpAtk and 132 Atk for Mixed Sweeping, but whatever works for you.
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Mixed Wall
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Brick Break
-Shadow Punch

I guess it works.

I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)

Maybe use AgiliGross as a quick Physical Sweeper...

Metagross @ Leftovers
>Clear Body
EV's: 252 Atk, 100 Spd, 156 Def
-Agility
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Zen Headbutt

Not really sure on Metagross though, many variants out there, but I chose Earthquake and STAB moves.

I hope I helped you in some way. I hope some other patrons of this wonderful site will help you as well or fix something I have messed up. -Happy Battling!

Octazooka July 30th, 2007 12:32 PM

I've never really thought of Dusknoir as a rapid spinner, but I'll try it

Quote:

Infernape is too fragile to set up Nasty Plot, especially with Life Orb already equipped. T-Punch to counter waters. My EV spread for my Infernape is 244 Spd, 132 SpAtk and 132 Atk for Mixed Sweeping, but whatever works for you.
yeah I've had some problems nasty plotting

I could try AgiliGross

Thanks for the help :)

MKDS_PoKE July 30th, 2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octazooka (Post 2686511)
I've never really thought of Dusknoir as a rapid spinner, but I'll try it



yeah I've had some problems nasty plotting

I could try AgiliGross

Thanks for the help :)

Lol, not a rapid spinner, but to BLOCK rapid spin. If rapid spin doesn't hit the opponent, the spikes aren't blown away.

MKDS_PoKE July 30th, 2007 12:37 PM

lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamesFan (Post 2686455)
Originally Posted by Octazooka http://pokecommunity.com/images/templates/pcpro/blue_buttons/viewpost.gif
Special Sweeper
[email protected]
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
-Thunder Wave Baton Pass
-Thunderbolt
-Wish
-Hidden Power [Ice]

Jolteon doesn't need Thunder Wave with it's speed. Baton Pass to pass Wish.

Lol, you don't need baton pass to pass wish. It works just by swithing out
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Physical Tank
[email protected] Bell
EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
-Curse
-Sythnesis
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake

I'm iffy on the EV spread; maybe 128 Atk and Def with Leftovers. Consider Leech Seed maybe.

It is fine
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Bulky Water
[email protected] Berry
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 128 DEF
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Not experienced with Lapras but I like that yours is a BoltBeamer.

It is fine as well
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Mixed Sweeper
[email protected] Orb
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
-Nasty Plot Thunder Punch
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower

Infernape is too fragile to set up Nasty Plot, especially with Life Orb already equipped. T-Punch to counter waters. My EV spread for my Infernape is 244 Spd, 132 SpAtk and 132 Atk for Mixed Sweeping, but whatever works for you.

It can set up nasty plot =\
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Mixed Wall
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Brick Break
-Shadow Punch

I guess it works.

I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)



Maybe use AgiliGross as a quick Physical Sweeper...

Metagross @ Leftovers
>Clear Body
EV's: 252 Atk, 100 Spd, 156 Def
-Agility
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Zen Headbutt

Not really sure on Metagross though, many variants out there, but I chose Earthquake and STAB moves.

I hope I helped you in some way. I hope some other patrons of this wonderful site will help you as well or fix something I have messed up. -Happy Battling!

Lol, dont listen to this guy. He even said to use baton pass to pass wish lol

Faceless* July 30th, 2007 12:43 PM

Well, MKDS, Jolteon might need Thunder Wave to slow down a few sweepers for its teammates (especially Zam which is OU)

MKDS_PoKE July 30th, 2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nameless111 (Post 2686552)
Well, MKDS, Jolteon might need Thunder Wave to slow down a few sweepers for its teammates (especially Zam which is OU)

That is true, and zam isn't OU anymore, it's now BL. BUT, you can also pass substitutes, and jolteon wouldn't take hits if it subbed. All you need to predict is a switch.

Towlie July 30th, 2007 1:08 PM

Ugh. This forum complicates every team. >_<

Jolteon is fine, just put Substitute over Wish. Jolteon is too fragile to use Wish. Plus, you need Subtitute, to scout switches. For example, You lead with Jolteon, while your opponent leads with Gyarados. Obviously they're going to switch out to avoid being toasted with a Thunderbolt, so that's your chance to set up a Substitute. If a non-Electavire comes out, you get a free Thunder Wave without being touched.

Give Torterra Leftovers. Shell Bell is bad. I'd go Leech Seed over Synthesis, since you only get 33% back in a sandstorm.

Leftovers on Lapras too. EV spread is iffy. For a pokemon like Lapras, I'd give it an EV spread of 196 Hp/64 Def/96 Sp. Atk/152 Sp. Def. Lapras has huge Hp, so it should be able to take a hit, so you should split it's defenses. Should have enough Special Attack to take down threats. I'd go with Surf over Thunderbolt though, simply for STAB.


Infernape is good. No changes.

Dusknoir should have Thunderpunch/Shadow Sneak over Brick Break and Shadow Punch. Too much Atk EV's imo, I'd drop some for some more Def EVs. 40 Atk EVs should suffice.

As for your Physical Sweeper.. Hm... Aerodactyl would do decent on your team, considering you cover it's 2 special weakness (Volt Absorb/Water Absorb) You could use something to stop earthquake anyways.

Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Nature: Jolly(+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Hp, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Thunder/Ice Fang
- Aerial Ace

Or you could go Double-Edge over something with rock head ability, but that set covers more stuff I believe.

Exokriz July 30th, 2007 1:27 PM

Special Sweeper
[email protected]
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
-Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Substitute
-Hidden Power [Ice]

I reccommend substitiute over wish, so he can take a few hits
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Physical Tank
[email protected] Bell
EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
-Curse
-Sythnesis
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake

I don't use Torterra so i cant help you here
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Bulky Water
[email protected]Leftovers
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

nice boltbeamer, its good. Needs Leftovers though
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Mixed Sweeper
[email protected] Orb
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
-Thunder Punch
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower

Like someone said above hes too fragile
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Mixed Wall
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
EVs 252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Atk
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Confuse Ray
-Shadow Punch

Great for annoying

Octazooka July 30th, 2007 2:10 PM

I only have two leftovers plus most people ask no more than two of the same item

thanks for the suggestions :]

MKDS_PoKE July 30th, 2007 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octazooka (Post 2686984)
I only have two leftovers plus most people ask no more than two of the same item

thanks for the suggestions :]

I can trade you lefties for other items..

Lord Mike July 30th, 2007 2:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octazooka (Post 2686362)
Special Sweeper
[email protected]
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
-Agility / Substitute
-Thunderbolt
-Wish / Substitute
-Baton Pass

BPing Jolteon is best.

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Physical Tank
[email protected] Bell
EVs: 252 HP / 148 ATK / 108 DEF
Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SPATK]
-Curse
-Sythnesis
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake

Fine.
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Bulky Water
[email protected] Berry
EVs: 252 S.ATK / 128 HP / 126 DEF
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Sleep Talk / Confuse Ray

STalking is meh, but whatever.
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Mixed Sweeper
[email protected] Orb
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 S.ATK
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
-Nasty Plot
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower

Meh, I don't know if Infernape will even be able to use Nasty Plot without getting killed the next turn.
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Mixed Wall
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
EVs 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful [+SDEF, -SATK]
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Brick Break
-Shadow Sneak

Shadow Sneak outspeed and KO things like Alakazam and Gardevoir.


I want a physical Sweeper to complete my team, I've been leaning towards Absol just because it looks cool, but it's speed isn't the best, suggestions would be nice :)

Meh, OK I guess. Could always be better though.

Towlie July 30th, 2007 3:46 PM

Well, if you can only use 2 lefties, stick them on Lapras and Dusknoir as they need them the most. Peteya Berry works well on the Jolteon I mentioned, and Torterra is fine with Shell Bell I suppose. Or the Ice Reducing Berry, Yache I think?


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