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Shift July 30th, 2007 2:45 PM

Pory's gonna rock the house!
 
Alright I don't know if this has been posted before. But I bring you a somewhat new set that I (I think I created it)am about to try out. And it involves Porygon Z. But we'll refer to it as Poryhouse(Power House, meh) from now on.

[email protected] Sash
252 SPATK 252 SPD 6 HP
Modest
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball
Hyper Beam
Agility

I know, I know. Hyper Beam. But you'll see.

Ok, this Pory is meant to be a lead. So start off with it. First move you use is ALWAYS. ALWAYS, Agility. Just so you can outspeed other Pokes.

When the opponent first sees Pory, they're going to expect a special attack and switch to a special wall or something that can negate Pory's attacks. It's probaly going to be a special wall, and more often than not. Blissey. So Blissey's going to be switched in to take a special attack, but you're just setting up so you can outspeed other Pokes after Blissey is dead.

How can Blissey be killed by a Special Sweeper, you ask. Focus Blast? No. Nasty Plot? No. Then what?

Hyper Beam

Yes, Hyper Beam. I read on Smogon that a STAB'd max EV'd Hyper Beam will kill Bliss. So if we use that, most users will be stunned at how their Special Wall got killed by a Special sweeper. But then there's the recharge thingy on Hyper Beam. And then they start to smile..

They send out something to kill Pory, knowing you can't switch or fight back. But then.. FOCUS SASH! And now your able to kill the revenge killer and sweep. If not, you have five other pokes to help out.

Enjoy.

c_dog July 30th, 2007 2:56 PM

hyperbeam isn't going to OHKO blissey... it's a 2HKO at best. even with adaptibility it's not a OHKO.

Anti July 30th, 2007 2:59 PM

Maybe Giga impact would deal more damage to bliss. Too bad pory is a special sweep...

MKDS_PoKE July 30th, 2007 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shift (Post 2687151)
Alright I don't know if this has been posted before. But I bring you a somewhat new set that I (I think I created it)am about to try out. And it involves Porygon Z. But we'll refer to it as Poryhouse(Power House, meh) from now on.

[email protected] Sash
252 SPATK 252 SPD 6 HP
Modest
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball
Hyper Beam
Agility

I know, I know. Hyper Beam. But you'll see.

Ok, this Pory is meant to be a lead. So start off with it. First move you use is ALWAYS. ALWAYS, Agility. Just so you can outspeed other Pokes.

When the opponent first sees Pory, they're going to expect a special attack and switch to a special wall or something that can negate Pory's attacks. It's probaly going to be a special wall, and more often than not. Blissey. So Blissey's going to be switched in to take a special attack, but you're just setting up so you can outspeed other Pokes after Blissey is dead.

How can Blissey be killed by a Special Sweeper, you ask. Focus Blast? No. Nasty Plot? No. Then what?

Hyper Beam

Yes, Hyper Beam. I read on Smogon that a STAB'd max EV'd Hyper Beam will kill Bliss. So if we use that, most users will be stunned at how their Special Wall got killed by a Special sweeper. But then there's the recharge thingy on Hyper Beam. And then they start to smile..

They send out something to kill Pory, knowing you can't switch or fight back. But then.. FOCUS SASH! And now your able to kill the revenge killer and sweep. If not, you have five other pokes to help out.

Enjoy.

everyone, it doe OHKO bliss

Im not a noob July 30th, 2007 3:02 PM

Sure Hyper beam is good power and can take out special walls but you seem to forgetting many important aspects of OU pokémon.

Firstly:

Using Hyper beam gives the opponent an easy chance to take out one of your good pokés whilst they're stalling recharge on the hyper beam, and if the opponent possesses good skill and EV trains his/her pokémon, he could probably sweep through more than half your team (judging by what pokés you have)

But eh, that's just my stupid words of crappy advice :P

Here's a good set for Porygon-Z

Porygon-Z @Choice Specs
Ability:Adaptabilty
Nature:Timid
EVs: 252 S.ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
-Tri Attack
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Dark Pulse / Nasty Plot

Shift July 30th, 2007 3:06 PM

There's the recharge. It's more of a surprise set. And I forgot, it's only Nasty Plot'd Hyper Beam.

Lord Mike July 30th, 2007 3:11 PM

I like this one better.

Porygon-Z @ Leftovers
Trait: Adaptibility
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
EVs: 156 HP / 88 Def / 208 SAtk / 56 SDef
-Tri Attack
-Nasty Plot
-Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Signal Beam / Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Signal Beam / Recover

Choices...choices...choices.....

Im not a noob July 30th, 2007 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Mike (Post 2687244)
I like this one better.

Porygon-Z @ Leftovers
Trait: Adaptibility
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
EVs: 156 HP / 88 Def / 208 SAtk / 56 SDef
-Tri Attack
-Nasty Plot
-Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Signal Beam / Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Signal Beam / Recover

Choices...choices...choices.....


I lol'd when I saw signal beam. Almost every team (not really) is completely resistant to bug types. Tbh, my preference is Boltbeam :P

Lord Mike July 30th, 2007 3:24 PM

Yeah. I was kind of throwing possibilities out there. As long as people get the idea. Some don't have much of a choice anyway...

Akuchiki Byakuya July 30th, 2007 3:37 PM

Yeah, but if the person you were battling just happened to send out a lucario with focus blast and extremespeed then I would feel sorry for the focus sash porygon-z.

c_dog July 30th, 2007 4:14 PM

the standard porygon Z has a scarf.

[email protected] scarf
adaptibility/download
modest
252sp.att 110speed rest hp
-tri attack
-thunderbolt
-ice beam
-dark pulse

hyperbeam is only 150 power.. saying it can OHKO blissey is like saying triattack can 2HKO blissey which clearly isn't happening. even after nasty plot it's not going to OHKO blissey either. where are you guys getting this from? and if you have nasty plot then there's clearly no room for hyperbeam because you'd want triattack on there along with boltbeam.

Bomberman August 3rd, 2007 8:39 PM

That PZ has 675 power on H Beam, not 150. And it will OHKO a Blissey.

150 x 2 (ability) x 1.5 (item) x 1.5 (stab) = 675

Samson August 3rd, 2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomberman (Post 2706841)
That PZ has 675 power on H Beam, not 150. And it will OHKO a Blissey.

150 x 2 (ability) x 1.5 (item) x 1.5 (stab) = 675

it won't OHKO Blissey because i think you're forgetting something: it has colossal HP.

at full HP, it leaves standard blissey with about 17% HP. it does not, i repeat, OHKO blissey. however, it would definitely come in handy if a blissey had about 80% of its HP left, and rather than sparing one of your pokes to a stall war, you can Beam it away.

sims796 August 3rd, 2007 10:28 PM

Why doed everyone seems to downgrade Blissey? Just cause it's OU & everyone seems to have a Blissey counter doesn't mean its useless. They have a counter for a reason: Blissey is awesome. When a team NEEDS a counter to suceed against one poke, you know thats a damn good pokemon.


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