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pooptarts92 July 31st, 2007 4:50 PM

Snorlax and Waillord
 
Ok so my friend wants to get a tank on his team. He wnats to use Snorlax so what's the best nature/EV spread for it?

Also, I want to use Waillord as another addition to my Physical sweepers, if that's what he's used for. Would Adamant be the best nature? And how should his EV spread go? Oh and a moveset of course... Thanks!

Angelic Diablo July 31st, 2007 4:56 PM

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Careful Nature
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP, 148 Atk, 110 Sp Def
-Earthquake/Crunch
-Double Edge/Return/Body Slam
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Wailord
Impish/Careful Nature
Trait: Water Veil
EVs: 252 Def (or Sp Def) 128 Atk, 128 HP
-Waterfall
-Body Slam/Double Edge
-Rest
-Sleep Talk


Wow, they are way to similar and I didn't even aim for that. Oh well (All Wailords moves are Egg moves by the way)

Anti July 31st, 2007 5:01 PM

Wailord...no. If you really want to use him go ahead but it sucks. His base defense and special defense is 45 I believe, which is terrible. It has a shitload of HP, but like hariyama, it doesn't thave the D to back it up. Its attack stats are both good. It's also pretty slow too, so you'd probably be able to take only one hit at the mosy. Starmies and other common threats would blow this thing out of the water (no pun intended). If you want a bulky water try two of my favorites, swampert and kingdra.
As for snorlax, curselax is the best set. Snorlax is highly recommended.

pooptarts92 July 31st, 2007 5:06 PM

Ok then I guess Wailord is out of the question... He just looks so cool though, big ass whale n **** lol. Well who would be a good tank besides Snorlax?

Anti July 31st, 2007 5:11 PM

Tank...Dusclops/dusknoir, registeel, umbreon kinda, and cradily are just a few tanks. Oh yeah and torkoal.

EDIT: I forgot ninjask! jk

pooptarts92 July 31st, 2007 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2692241)
Tank...Dusclops/dusknoir, registeel, umbreon kinda, and cradily are just a few tanks. Oh yeah and torkoal.

EDIT: I forgot ninjask! jk

Oh snap Cradily sounds good. What should its nature be, Impish or Careful? And moveset/EV spread?

Anti July 31st, 2007 5:33 PM

Ah, cradily. Wise choice. Here are good moves to consider:
~Recover
~Mirror Coat
~Barrier
~Amnesia
~Toxic
~Rest
Just to name a few. With cradily, it's pick three tanking moves, an attack move and run like the wing. It can be either type of wall with the stat up moves or a pure tank. Haze can screw this though. Good news: suction cups prevent whirlwind and roar from not working. Yay!

pooptarts92 July 31st, 2007 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2692365)
Ah, cradily. Wise choice. Here are good moves to consider:
~Recover
~Mirror Coat
~Barrier
~Amnesia
~Toxic
~Rest
Just to name a few. With cradily, it's pick three tanking moves, an attack move and run like the wing. It can be either type of wall with the stat up moves or a pure tank. Haze can screw this though. Good news: suction cups prevent whirlwind and roar from not working. Yay!

K thanks. And nature/EV spread?

Anti July 31st, 2007 5:54 PM

Oh boy. I'll give you three options:

Physical Wall:
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Bold Nature
EVs: 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6 Special Attack
~Barrier
~Recover
~Toxic
~HP Grass

Special Wall:
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Calm Nature
EVs: 252 Special Defense, 252 HP, 6 Special Attack
~Amnesia/Mirror Coat
~Recover
~Toxic
~HP Grass/Mirror Coat

Dual Wall/Tank:
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Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 126 Special Defense, 126 Defense, 6 Special Attack
~Toxic
~Recover/Barrier/Amnesia
~HP Grass
~Barrier/Mirror Coat/Amnesia

Unsure about the last moveset, but there ya' go.

pooptarts92 July 31st, 2007 6:00 PM

thanks dude. that helps a lot!

Anti July 31st, 2007 6:13 PM

No problemo. I recommend the special wall (107 base Sp. D) with amnesia and mirror coat. Monsterous.

Azonic July 31st, 2007 6:20 PM

Milotic is a great annoying special wall.

Anti July 31st, 2007 6:30 PM

Milotic is a pain to get though. Feebas took hours for me to find.

Azonic July 31st, 2007 7:00 PM

Well, once you get one, get a Ditto and BREED like you've never BRED before. That's the easy way...

And I don't mean to brag, but the 1st pokemon I found in Sapphire in the Feebas area was... Feebas!!! My luck...

pooptarts92 August 1st, 2007 8:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2692521)
No problemo. I recommend the special wall (107 base Sp. D) with amnesia and mirror coat. Monsterous.

Would it be better to get both special and regular defense? Or is it's defense pretty high anyways?

Akuchiki Byakuya August 1st, 2007 8:11 PM

Well I hate to brin up tanks again but what about tangrowth?

Anti August 1st, 2007 8:16 PM

As for cradily all of its defensive stats(including HP) are very good. You can use both barrier and amnesia to mega boost your D and put an attack move and ingrain/recover to make your cradily tank complete.

pooptarts92 August 1st, 2007 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2697776)
As for cradily all of its defensive stats(including HP) are very good. You can use both barrier and amnesia to mega boost your D and put an attack move and ingrain/recover to make your cradily tank complete.

K thanks man. Just ignore that last PM i sent, you answered it.

Anti August 1st, 2007 8:23 PM

Oops, already sent you the message, says the same thing though.

pooptarts92 August 1st, 2007 8:41 PM

So is this a good moveset then:

Amnesia
Barrier
Toxic
Recover

I want it to withstand a lot, be able to recover HP, and have a sick damage increasing poison move, but with this set it has no actual attack... Is mirror coat a better option?

Anti August 1st, 2007 8:45 PM

Take out a move for a move that actually does damage like rock slide. HP Fire or EQ are decent options. Maybe take out recover or toxic. It's your call.


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