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Live in Color August 3rd, 2007 10:33 PM

Help with team please. :)
 
Alright here's my team. I already have the Dusknoir, Porygon-Z, and Skarmory. I'm looking to add the three listed below.

Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Pressure
Jolly
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Stealth Rock

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 154 Sp. Defense, 104 Defense
-Ice Punch
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak

Salamence @ Leftovers
Intimidate
Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Crunch
-Thunderfang

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 154 Defense, 104 Attack
-Drill Peck
-Roar
-Spikes
-Roost

Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
Adaptability
Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Tri Attack
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Dark Pulse

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Leaf Guard
Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Sp. Attack
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Sunny Day
-Solar Beam

Akuchiki Byakuya August 3rd, 2007 11:23 PM

I think aragorn is the one who started the whole tangrowth strategy, well anyways I like rock head and double edge on aerodactyl more and you should get rid of something for a special wall, I think a milotic could blow you to shreads. I suggest blissey with stealth rock over dusknoir.

Craig² August 3rd, 2007 11:24 PM

For Skarmory, I would replace Roost with Subsitute. Other than that your Skarmory's nature is very good. Here's an alternate set:

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 196 HP / 192 Def / 120 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Whirlwind
- Taunt
- Spikes

^ Just made quickly..

I also prefer Aerial Ace over Drill Peck, but that's just my opinion.

Akuchiki Byakuya August 3rd, 2007 11:43 PM

Hate to bust your chops start but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[email protected]
Impish~252 defense/252 hp
roost/rest
spikes
whirlwind
agility/drill peck

I like agility because if you are faster then everything and got a stealth rock out then you can kill anything. Cheap but effective.

Shiraishi August 4th, 2007 4:04 AM

Whats the point of having 2 physical walls on ur team :/

Iceman3k August 4th, 2007 4:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemonade (Post 2707202)
Alright here's my team. I already have the Dusknoir, Porygon-Z, and Skarmory. I'm looking to add the three listed below.

Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
Pressure
Jolly
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Ice Fang / Fire Fang / Thunder Fang
Sweepers don't use Stealth Rock, or any Spiking attacks for that matter.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Impish
EVs: 228 HP / 176 Def / 104 SDef
-Thunderpunch
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak

Salamence @ Leftovers
Intimidate
Adamant
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Spd / 32 SAtk
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
DD Sala only needs 270 Speed to start with.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish
EVs: 208 HP / 84 Atk / 216 Def
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Spikes
-Roost
Thanks to Fearow's newfound egg move it is now possible to have Drill Peck AND Whirlwind on the same set <3.

Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
Adaptability
Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Tri Attack
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Dark Pulse
Very good.

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Leaf Guard
Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Sp. Attack
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Sunny Day
-Solar Beam
Leaving this alone for now.

You need a Special Tank, sir.

Lord Mike August 4th, 2007 6:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemonade (Post 2707202)
Alright here's my team. I already have the Dusknoir, Porygon-Z, and Skarmory. I'm looking to add the three listed below.

Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Pressure
Jolly
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Thunder Fang
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Aerial Ace

CBDactyl is best.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 154 Sp. Defense, 104 Defense
-Ice Punch
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak

Meh, whatever.

Salamence @ Leftovers
Intimidate
Adamant
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Spd
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw /Brick Break / Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace

Horrible spread and moveset. Use this.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 154 Defense, 104 Attack
-Drill Peck
-Roar
-Spikes
-Roost

Standard.

Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
Adaptability
Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Tri Attack
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Signal Beam

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Leaf Guard
Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Sp. Attack
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Sunny Day
-Solar Beam

..Whatever...

~*^*~~*^*~~*^*~~*^*~~*^*~~*^*~~^*^~

Live in Color August 4th, 2007 9:30 AM

Dusknoir is great as a dual wall. Which is why I never really considered a special wall. I did have a Blissey but I didn't like it. Tangrowth seems like a good physical wall to use. I fought one with my Electivire and it withstood just about everything.

I'm definitely not putting Fire Blast on Salamence because it seems dual attackers suck a lot more than single attacker. So meh... and Lord Mike what a great help you were... "Whatever..."

Akuchiki Byakuya August 4th, 2007 9:59 AM

Are you talking about my tangrowth lemonade? Well anyways I like that tangrowth set.

Extric August 4th, 2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemonade (Post 2707202)
Alright here's my team. I already have the Dusknoir, Porygon-Z, and Skarmory. I'm looking to add the three listed below.

Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Pressure
Jolly
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Aerial Ace

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 154 Sp. Defense, 104 Defense
-Ice Punch
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak

[Don't know much about Dusknoir]

Salamence @ Leftovers
Intimidate
Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Spd
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Spikes
-Roost

Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
Adaptability
Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Tri Attack
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Dark Pulse

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Leaf Guard
Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 228 DEF, 28 SPD
-Sleep Powder
-Grass Knot
-Stun Spore
-HP Fire

All of my fixes are in bold.

c_dog August 4th, 2007 11:09 AM

ooka, that tangrowth set sucks.. the knock off set with power whip is much much better. sunny day should only be used on a grass pokemon with cholorphyll, along with hidden power fire and solarbeam. with that tangrow set it's just asking for any pokemon resistant to grass moves to come in and give it a beating. a houndoom and his buddy exeggutor would like to thank you for the sunny day boost.

and agility on skarmory is absolutely useless. once it outspeeds pokemon, pokemon are going to start hitting it with earthquake whenever it uses roost. and a steel type low on hp hit by an earthquake is as good as gone. also, agility doesn't help whirlwind go first because whirlwind always go last,just so you know. that's why agility is absolutely useless on skarmory.

Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Pressure
Jolly
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Stealth Rock
looks fine. cema uses an identicle aerodactyl i believe

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 154 Sp. Defense, 104 Defense
-Ice Punch
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-brick break
brick break is better for type coverage.


Salamence @ Leftovers
Intimidate
Adamant
EVs: 110hp, 252 Attack, 148sp.att
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Crunch[b]/earthquake
-flamethrower
mix sweeping salamence is best. it's not totally walled by skarmory and takes down tangrowth too.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 154 Defense, 104 Attack
-Drill Peck
-Roar
-Spikes
-Roost
what's to rate about a standard OU?

Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
Adaptability
Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Tri Attack
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Dark Pulse/hyperbeam
looks good. keep in mind porygon Z with choice specs is the only pokemon in the game who can legitimately pull off hyperbeam. you can try this set with choice scarf on a modest porygon too.


Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Leaf Guard
Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Sp. Attack
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Knock off
-Power whip
Knock off and powerwhip are way better, trust me

Roihu August 4th, 2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooka_100 (Post 2707325)
Hate to bust your chops start but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[email protected]
Impish~252 defense/252 hp
roost/rest
spikes
whirlwind
agility/drill peck

I like agility because if you are faster then everything and got a stealth rock out then you can kill anything. Cheap but effective.

Doesn't Whirlwind always go last?

Live in Color August 4th, 2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roihu (Post 2709124)
Doesn't Whirlwind always go last?

Yeah, I thought it did too. So why bother trying to get Whirlwind when Roar does the same thing...

Lone--Wanderer August 4th, 2007 12:12 PM

Whirlwind and Roar always go last; I can confirm from in-game experience with Pigeotto in Leaf Green.

c_dog August 4th, 2007 12:37 PM

yes whirlwind always go last. ooka apparently never used a skarmory and doesn't know what he's talking about.

whirlwind is better than roar because some pokemon have sound proof so roar is useless on them.


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