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jb0000612 August 8th, 2007 12:54 PM

Chimchar's Worth
 
I think that Chimchar, the fire starter, is a lot more cool than people give it credit for. It's cute, powerful, and makes way for a lot of other unique Pokemon to add onto a Sinnoh team.
But with the popular Pokemon media, that isn't news that many people care about. In fact, the anime went so far as to portray Chimchar as a gluttonous jerk. This is mean and unaccurate. Sure, Turtwig and Piplup can handle the first gym, but Chimchar's evolution is the only one out of the 3 starters to get a second type first.

Hinamori_Momo August 8th, 2007 12:58 PM

don't forget that when all three are fully Evolved Infernape has the advantage over both Empoleon and Torterra. and Paul always keeps his Chimchar because he has faith in it and thinks that it hasn't reached its full potential. UGHHH! I can't believe I actually said THAT!

J.M. August 8th, 2007 1:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jb0000612 (Post 2727795)
I think that Chimchar, the fire starter, is a lot more cool than people give it credit for. It's cute, powerful, and makes way for a lot of other unique Pokemon to add onto a Sinnoh team.
But with the popular Pokemon media, that isn't news that many people care about. In fact, the anime went so far as to portray Chimchar as a gluttonous jerk. This is mean and unaccurate. Sure, Turtwig and Piplup can handle the first gym, but Chimchar's evolution is the only one out of the 3 starters to get a second type first.

Chimchar too can handle the first gym. You just need to level it up enough so it learns Mach Punch. That's what I did and I beat Roark pretty easy.

Infact, I beat Geodude and Onix with Hidden Power

But yeah I think Chimchar is really cool, I started with him

Hinamori_Momo August 8th, 2007 1:07 PM

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Originally Posted by J.M. (Post 2727823)
Chimchar too can handle the first gym. You just need to level it up enough so it learns Mach Punch. That's what I did and I beat Roark pretty easy.

Infact, I beat Geodude and Onix with Hidden Power

But yeah I think Chimchar is really cool, I started with him

i started with it and beat Roark without evolving it.

J.M. August 8th, 2007 1:12 PM

Yeah, Ember worked pretty well against his Pokemon, surprisingly.

As I said before, I taught my Bidoof Hidden Power and he mananged to beat Onix and Geodude so it wasn't too hard.

RileyVace August 8th, 2007 1:12 PM

Yeah great points everyone, but he looks stupid in many people's opinions, including mine. Plus he's not unique. Torterra and Empoleon are new types for stater Pokemon once fully evolved. We've had a Fire/Fighting starter already in R/S/E.

And Charizard, Typhlosion and Blaziken all look cooler I think. A CHICKEN LOOKS BETTER THAN A MONKEY. Fact.

I think Empoleon look more dumb though. Stupid penguin, should have stayed a Piplup.

Hinamori_Momo August 8th, 2007 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rileyvace (Post 2727851)
Yeah great points everyone, but he looks stupid in many people's opinions, including mine. Plus he's not unique. Torterra and Empoleon are new types for stater Pokemon once fully evolved. We've had a Fire/Fighting starter already in R/S/E.

And Charizard, Typhlosion and Blaziken all look cooler I think. A CHICKEN LOOKS BETTER THAN A MONKEY. Fact.

I think Empoleon look more dumb though. Stupid penguin, should have stayed a Piplup.

it may not be unique but it is the most powerful of the 3 Sinnoh Starters in their fully evolved form. and it looks cooler than the other fire starters. but i have to agree that Blaziken looks cooler in most cases.

Zellinatrix August 8th, 2007 1:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowdragon154 (Post 2727872)
it may not be unique but it is the most powerful of the 3 Sinnoh Starters in their fully evolved form. and it looks cooler than the other fire starters. but i have to agree that Blaziken looks cooler in most cases.

It definetly is the most powerful seeing as its attack and speed stats are very high, but it IS ugly. And Empoleon gains resistance to 12 different types. Torterra's just okay overall. And no, I personally do not think Infernape is unique.

Pkmn Trainer Alex August 8th, 2007 1:41 PM

Er, wha? I'm the only one that thinks Infernape looks cool and Blaziken looks ugly? Hm...

At any rate, Infernape is quite useful if used correctly. And when you consider Blaziken's lack of Close Combat and slower speed, Infernape fits better in the sweeper position.

Hinamori_Momo August 8th, 2007 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zellinatrix (Post 2727942)
It definetly is the most powerful seeing as its attack and speed stats are very high, but it IS ugly. And Empoleon gains resistance to 12 different types. Torterra's just okay overall. And no, I personally do not think Infernape is unique.

it doesn't look UGLY, Viva La Flaming Kung-Fu Monkeys!. And Infernape has an advantage over BOTH the starters while the other 2 only have 1 advantage over the other. that's why i'm saying Infernape is the strongest of the 3. and i can agree that Infernape isn't unique when it comes to typing but he only has 2 starters to really worry about: Swampert and Charizard.

Light Yagami August 8th, 2007 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zellinatrix (Post 2727942)
It definetly is the most powerful seeing as its attack and speed stats are very high, but it IS ugly. And Empoleon gains resistance to 12 different types. Torterra's just okay overall. And no, I personally do not think Infernape is unique.

looks aside it CAN beat Empoleon and Torterra. Its speed allows it to Fire Blast Torterra, despite it being ground it will still be effective. And yes speed is key. Because its close combat will destroy Empoleon

RileyVace August 8th, 2007 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pkmn Trainer Alex (Post 2727972)
Er, wha? I'm the only one that thinks Infernape looks cool and Blaziken looks ugly? Hm...

At any rate, Infernape is quite useful if used correctly. And when you consider Blaziken's lack of Close Combat and slower speed, Infernape fits better in the sweeper position.

You've got a point, but I don't really battle competively, I just mainly trade and collect lol.

And it's all opinion, I have a preference for Dragon and dragon like pokemon, and I guess Blaziken looks slightly more like one then Infernape. I know netiher of them do at all, but meh.
Plus that and the fact that I hate primates, may sway my decision.
Plus Chimchar evolution line has annoying cries.

Hinamori_Momo August 8th, 2007 1:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGbigman93 (Post 2727981)
looks aside it CAN beat Empoleon and Torterra. Its speed allows it to Fire Blast Torterra, despite it being ground it will still be effective. And yes speed is key. Because its close combat will destroy Empoleon

EXACTLY! FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT! and like i said there are only 2 starters Infernape really needs to worry about: Charizard and Swampert.

Pkmn Trainer Alex August 8th, 2007 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowdragon154 (Post 2727999)
EXACTLY! FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT! and like i said there are only 2 starters Infernape really needs to worry about: Charizard and Swampert.

Hm, I use a mixed sweeper Infernape w/ Grass Knot, so Swampert doesn't really stand a chance...

At any rate, I don't like thinking about starters vs. starters, as such a scenario wouldn't come up often enough to matter. ~Wii

Sarafan August 8th, 2007 3:22 PM

I love the ape so much its made it on to my online team.

I egg moved Thunder and Fire punch on to him because Flame wheel wasn't very good.

J-Rad August 8th, 2007 3:26 PM

Chimchars are in my opinion the worst satarter in history. IF u can survive 1 hit from them (and most pokes can) they are dead in one hit w/ the exeption of focas sash.

Punishment August 8th, 2007 3:28 PM

Actually Infernape will be pretty much OU. It is one of the few Pokemon that can destroy the ever so common SkarmBliss.

Pkmn Trainer Alex August 8th, 2007 3:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonzilla25 (Post 2728331)
Chimchars are in my opinion the worst satarter in history. IF u can survive 1 hit from them (and most pokes can) they are dead in one hit w/ the exeption of focas sash.

That's rather situational. Especially when you consider just how strong a Close Combat from Infernape can be, even if it were to die afterwards, you aren't going to be left without a nice dent in your HP.

Light Yagami August 8th, 2007 3:29 PM

OMG, dude I will not let Infernape be bashed like this. Infernape and Blaziken are the best no question. Not alot of pokemon can survive their Close combat.

J-Rad August 8th, 2007 3:36 PM

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That's rather situational
yeah thats probably true. IT just so happened that every infernape I've fought get OHKO exept one when on wifi it was infernape vs typhlosion we bothe hit each other and went into red health, but luckily I won because the guy I was fighting used cut and thought it'l kill me

Syrr August 8th, 2007 3:36 PM

YES. Infernape is wonderful :D
Seeing as how I was born in the year of the Monkey, this might sway my opinion LMAO
About the only things it's weak against are flying, psycic and ground.

Hinamori_Momo August 8th, 2007 3:57 PM

i was born in the year of the chicken so i SHOULD be more into Blaziken but i'm more into monkeys for some reason. and whoever thinks Infernape is ugly is an idiot.

Syrr August 8th, 2007 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowdragon154 (Post 2728462)
i was born in the year of the chicken so i SHOULD be more into Blaziken but i'm more into monkeys for some reason. and whoever thinks Infernape is ugly is an idiot.

Out of all the fire starters, Charizard is my fave, but Infernape comes in at a VERY close 2nd.

Hinamori_Momo August 8th, 2007 4:01 PM

Infernape's my fave with Blaziken as 2nd, Charizard is 3rd.

Syrr August 8th, 2007 4:02 PM

Blaziken's my 3rd.

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