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Gabriel- August 8th, 2007 3:15 PM

Rate and help my team(3gen)
 
Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Toxic
- Whirlwind

Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 220 HP / 216 Spd / 72 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Leaf Blade
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Tauros (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Sleep Talk

Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Screech
- Shadow Ball
- Wish

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Def / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Counter
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Claydol @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Cosmic Power
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Azonic August 9th, 2007 6:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel- (Post 2728293)
Special Sweeper

[email protected] berry/petaya berry
Timid
EVs:6 HP/252 SPD/252 SP.ATK
Moves:
-Sunnyday
-Solarbeam
-Synthesis/Dragon Pulse
-HP Fire

Special Wall

[email protected]
Calm/Careful
EVs:252 HP/252 SP. DEF/ 4 DEF
Moves:
-Softboiled
-Aromatherapy/Calm Mind
-Thunder Wave
-Seismic Toss

Physical Sweeper

[email protected]Life Orb
Carefull
EVs:252 HP/6 ATK/252 SP.DEF
Moves:
-X-Scissor
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance/Brick Break/Shadowclaw/Return

Physical Sweeper

[email protected] Berry
Adamant
EVs:6 HP/252 ATK/252 Speed
Moves:
-Earthquake
-HP Dark
-Return
-Stone Edge
WTF??? Sleep Talk??? How are you gonna put it to sleep???

Physical Wall

[email protected]
Impish
EVs:252 HP/6 ATK/116 DEF/136 SP.DEF
Moves:
-Earthquake
-Gyro Ball
-Stone Edge/Thunder Fang/Ice Fang
-Slealth Rock/Explosion/Toxic

Rapid Spiner and Special Sweeper

[email protected]
Modest
EVs:6 HP/252 SPD/252 SP.ATK
Modest: <???
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Recover/Psychic

GD this 25 character rule. fixes in bold

Shiraishi August 9th, 2007 6:17 AM

Good movesets but this 3rd gen D:

Azonic August 9th, 2007 6:20 AM

whoopdi doo

my bad... srry

Gabriel- August 9th, 2007 11:41 AM

Sleep Talk is for countering sleeping so it can sitil attack wille with the condition sleep.:D

Azonic August 9th, 2007 3:58 PM

-_-;

Then how are you gonna fall asleep???

Gabriel- August 9th, 2007 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2733023)
-_-;

Then how are you gonna fall asleep???

By the oponent using hipinosis or any other that put it to sleep.

Azonic August 9th, 2007 4:39 PM

OK, you can't just rely on the opponent to give you status. what if they give you a paralyze/poison/burn condition, then Sleep Talk is a piece of crappy waste.

If you are EVER gonna use Sleep Talk... please put Rest...

Gabriel- August 9th, 2007 5:01 PM

I know that so is this one bether:

[email protected] Berry
Adamant
EVs:252 HP/200 ATK/28 DEF/28 SP.DEF
Moves:
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Return
-Sleep Talk

Eos Aduro August 9th, 2007 5:06 PM

Ok, you put Sceptile in as a Special Sweeper... with no special moves. Smacks self on head. I kind of like the changed moveset, but I'd go for this more.

Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Giga Drain
Agility

For 3rd Gen, but thats just me.

Azonic August 9th, 2007 5:11 PM

Umm... all of them were special...

And Solarbeam/Sunnyday should never be on Sceptile unless in 4th gen. Sceptile is probably fast enough without agility and Giga Drain and Solarbeam suck.

Exokriz August 9th, 2007 5:30 PM

[email protected] berry/petaya berry
Timid
EVs:6 HP/252 SPD/252 SP.ATK
Moves:
-Leaf Blade
-Dragon Claw
-Thunder Punch
-Substitiute


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Bold
EVs:116 HP/130 DEF/142 SP.Def
Moves:
-Aromatheropy
-Seismic Toss
-Thunder Wave
-Softboiled

Waffle-San August 9th, 2007 5:40 PM

I like Sceptiles moveset, grass was special back then right?

SilencedShooter August 9th, 2007 8:00 PM

His pokemon were good enough to get him throught the game I'm sure, but if you battle real people and not just in game trainers, you'd probally lose.Get more stat raising or lowering moves...Of course, that's just my opinion.

Shiraishi August 9th, 2007 8:28 PM

Doubt it. Its a balanced team. And stat lowering moves are useless. Its not he is using a DD mence or somethin :/

SilencedShooter August 9th, 2007 8:41 PM

I don't know...stat lowering moves have saved me before...but not enough times for me to say people NEED them...

Smarties-chan August 10th, 2007 3:06 AM

Quote:

OK, you can't just rely on the opponent to give you status. what if they give you a paralyze/poison/burn condition, then Sleep Talk is a piece of crappy waste.

If you are EVER gonna use Sleep Talk... please put Rest...
The point of Sleep Talk without Rest is so you can switch in on Breloom's Spore/Milotic's Hypnosis/Venusaur's Sleep Powder etc and hit back. That's basic and anyone who thinks anything with Sleep Talk necessarily needs Rest obviously isn't too great of a competitive battler.

Alter Ego August 10th, 2007 3:41 AM

Umm...yeah, actually you can rely on any worthwhile opponent to try to hit you with status. Lawl at these 4th genners; Sleep Talk is all over the place in Advance. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel- (Post 2728293)
Special Sweeper

[email protected]Leftovers
Timid
EVs:6 HP/252 SPD/252 SP.ATK
Moves:
-Leaf Blade
-Dragon Claw Substitute
-Thunder Punch/Hidden Power [Ice]
-Pursuit Leech Seed

Seedstall Sceptile = Schmexy. Also, make sure that the HP is one above a number divisible by 16. If it isn't, pool EVs from SAtk until it is.


Special Wall

[email protected]
Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Moves:
-Calm Mind Aromatherapy/Heal Bell
-Defense Curl Softboiled
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt Seismic Toss

Defense Curling Blissey is pretty futile as, to be honest, is a CMing one. Softboiled is an absolute must, and since you don't really have any other special walls this thing should be walling properly, imo. If you want more special power then replace that sucky Sandslash with Zapdos or Magneton. There was also some strategic SAtk value that lets Blissey break Gengar's subs with Ice Beam, I think it was 68 or 64, but I can't remember.

Physical Sweeper

[email protected] Berry
Carefull
EVs:252 HP/6 ATK/252 SP.DEF
Moves:
-Rest
-Rock Slide
-Seismic Toss
-Swords Dance


Chestorest = Phail, as does maximal SDef on a pokémon that gets whipped by special attackers anyway. I really don't see what this thing is doing in a full-OU team anyway. Replace this with something useful, because it couldn't sweep for beans. :\

Physical Sweeper

Tauros@ Choice Band
Adamant
EVs:6 HP/252 ATK/252 Speed
Moves:
-Earthquake
-Hidden Power(70 ghost)
-Return
-Sleep Talk

Physical Wall

Liechi makes Tauros cry since it's pretty easily KOed. CB, please; it gives a bigger power boost all the time.

[email protected]
Impish
EVs:252 HP/6 ATK/116 DEF/136 SP.DEF
Moves:
-Earthquake
-Rage Rest/Explosion
-Rock Slide
-Roar

Screw the SDef; Steelix is a physical wall. Switch those EVs into Atk and Def, please. Also, Rage is just one of the most pointless moves ever. Either give it rest to help the walling or Explosion to let it go boom at the end.

Rapid Spiner and Special Sweeper

[email protected]
Trait: Natural Cure
Timid
EVs:6 HP/252 SPD/252 SP.ATK
Moves:
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Rapid Spin

I like Reflectmie better, but W/E.

Ironically, Starmie hurts this team a lot, and Jynx can also become a serious pain if it gets going (Having Blissey as your only special walling type is really putting all your eggs in one basket). Try throwing in a STalking Heracross (there should be a set complete with EVs and whatnot in one of the guides here) instead of that Sandslash; that pokémon just really isn't doing anything for this team. A spiker is another thing to consider since this team can force switches quite well (thanks to Sceptile and Steelix).

Azonic August 10th, 2007 5:20 AM

Scarf- mamoswine can sweep through a whole lot of this team

Blissey - poor defense
Sceptile - Ice
Steelix - Ground
Sandslash - Ice

Breloom takes care of the rest.

Shiraishi August 10th, 2007 5:27 AM

This is 3rd gen piloswine doesnt have a evo yet.

Azonic August 10th, 2007 6:02 AM

0.0; my brain isn't on today...

Heracross scarfed is a threat -

Blissey - Ftg
Starmie - Bug
Tauros - Ftg
Sceptile - Bug
Steelix - Ftg

WTF??? there are 48 people wiewing this thread????????????? I must be popular.

Shiraishi August 10th, 2007 6:40 AM

Heracross can't scarf in 3rd gen..

Azonic August 10th, 2007 6:45 AM

I hate you Cakekun >_<

lol

Gabriel- August 10th, 2007 10:05 AM

My sepitile pursuit was changed to HP Ice and I don't like choice band because it will let me use one move and that is bad for sweeping and my starmie trait is natural cure.
In place of the sandslash I will put this magmar:

[email protected] rock
Naive
EVs:168 ATK/212 SPD/130 SP.ATK
Moves:
-Cross Chop
-Body Slam
-Flamethrower
-Thunderpunch

Alter Ego August 10th, 2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel- (Post 2736209)
My sepitile pursuit was changed to HP Ice and I don't like choice band because it will let me use one move and that is bad for sweeping and my starmie trait is natural cure.

Umm...sorry, but no; Choice Band is the opposite of bad for sweeping. That 50% damage boost is often what makes the difference between an OHKO or a two-hit KO, making it very useful for sweeping. If you'd ever been on the receiving end of a CB Tauros' Double-Edge you wouldn't be saying that it's bad for sweeping (Heck, even my little Furret punched through a Skarmory thanks to that item). Besides, if your opponent is any good at the game you'll end up switching out after a KO or two anyways, all it calls for is a little prediction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel- (Post 2736209)
In place of the sandslash I will put this magmar:

Magmar@ Leftovers/Petaya Berry
Naive
EVs:168 ATK/212 SPD/130 SP.ATK
Moves:
-Cross Chop
-Body Slam Substitute
-Flamethrower
-Thunderpunch

So run this by me again: why do you insist on running an UU that isn't up to scratch when compared to the rest of the team? Substitute over Body Slam; if you want to paralyze then use Thunderpunch. Also, King's Rock is a big no-no; its success rate is so poor that it's completely overshadowed by more consistent use items. Seriously, though, this one isn't really handling anything that other team members don't already do and there are lots of better options. (See previous post for some) Magneton traps and Kills troublemakers like Skarmory and Forretress, Zapdos is a strong special attacker (which can also be equipped with Drill Peck to counter Heracross), Dugtrio traps stuff like Magneton and Raikou and can also OHKO Heracross (although it can't switch in on it); all of these do far more for your team than Magmar will.


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