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Octazooka August 10th, 2007 6:46 PM

Help/Fix my team
 
Okay so I'm back at the drawing board since well my last team didn't work as well as I wanted it to. I made a few adjustments and this is what I have so far.


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Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
EVs: 252 SATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Substitude
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Baton Pass

Great speed and well just overall greatness have given Jolteon a permanent [well almost] spot on my team, HP Ice for dragons and all those nasty ground types, Baton Pass to get out of a sticky situation
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Torterra @ leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
Nature: Impish [+DEF,-SATK]
EVs: 252 HP / 108 DEF / 148 ATK
- Stealth Rock
- Synthesis
- Earthquake
- ???

I was thinking maybe reflect or leach seed for the last move , this is my first time using Torterra like this so suggestions would be nice
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Absol @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Super Luck
Nature: Adamant [+ATK,-SATK]
EVs: 252 AT K/ 252 SPD / 6 HP
-Night Slash
-Psycho cut
-Stone Edge
-X-Scissor

Physical sweeper, Choice Scarf because of its atrocious speed, and well the attacking power of this thing makes up for everything
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[email protected] Orb
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 SATK
-Nasty Plot
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower

he's my mixed sweeper, Comes out late in the game when major threats are gone and cleans up very well
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Weezing @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
EV: 252 DEF / 252 HP / 6 SATK
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Haze
-Sludge Bomb

physical wall, works really nicely for me :)
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for the last spot I was thinking of a good bulky water special wall, maybe a Milotic , Lapras, or Vaporeon, other suggestions would be nice
Thanks in advance :)

Extric August 10th, 2007 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octazooka (Post 2738720)
Okay so I'm back at the drawing board since well my last team didn't work as well as I wanted it to. I made a few adjustments and this is what I have so far.


[email protected]
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid [+SPD,-ATK]
EVs: 252 SATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Substitute
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Baton Pass

[Looks fine to me]
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Torterra @ leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
Nature: Impish [+DEF,-SATK]
EVs: 252 HP / 200 DEF / 48 ATK / 8 ATK
- Wood Hammer
- Rest
- Earthquake / [b]Stone Edge
- Sleep Talk

[If you wanting more of a wall Torterra then I would try Sleep Talking Torterra.]
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Absol @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Super Luck
Nature: Jolly [+SPD,-SATK]
EVs: 252 ATK / 240 SPD / 16 HP
-Night Slash
-Psycho cut
-Stone Edge
-Rock Smash

[Don't laugh at Rock Smash. I find that it does really well on Absol. I'll look up the calculations and post them here for you to see.]
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[email protected] Orb
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Hasty [+SPD,-DEF]
EVs: 24 ATK / 232 SPD / 252 SATK
-Nasty Plot
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Flamethrower

[This looks fine to me also]
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Weezing @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold [+DEF,-ATK]
EV: 252 DEF / 252 HP / 6 SPD
-Will-o-Wisp / Thunderbolt
-Pain Split
-Haze
-Sludge Bomb

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All of my fixes are in bold. I'll try and post those Rock Smash calculations for you soon, but I know that Absol does good with it in it's moveset.

Eos Aduro August 10th, 2007 9:24 PM

JOLTEON ROCKS! He doesnt really fit with my personal style, but hes still awesome. I Claim Him. One note, For a Torterra Wall, I dotn really liek Talkterra, as I call him. I prefer

Earthquake
Leech Seed
Reflect
Protect

It works for deflecting, and is also very suppostish.

Octazooka August 11th, 2007 8:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Rextron (Post 2739105)
All of my fixes are in bold. I'll try and post those Rock Smash calculations for you soon, but I know that Absol does good with it in it's moveset.

that would be really nice of you :) thanks

Punishment August 11th, 2007 8:21 AM

Sleep Talker sets aren't as good as they were in advance. Two turns of sleeping with a 66% chance of launching an attack and not being able to choose is risky and can cost you your wall.

-Wood Hammer/Reflect
-Leech Seed
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

Leech Seed is an awesome move. Sure it takes time to setup but once you have it your opponenet will get annoyed and usually switch out.

Extric August 11th, 2007 8:28 AM

Okay, found the calculations. This is from the Absol Analysis thread on the forums:

Quote:

Tyranitar with 6 HP/0 Defense EVs Tyranitar takes 49 - 57%. Not a guaranteed 2HKO, but you have the 50% chance of a Defense drop and a 25% chance for a critical hit (93 - 100%). After a Swords Dance it does 96 - 100%. Again, not guaranteed but close enough. Any kind of boosting item (Expert Belt, Life Orb, Muscle Band) will guarantee the kill. So that's the best case scenario for Absol. Worst (likely) case scenario is Tyranitar has max HP. 252 HP/0 Defense EVs Tyranitar takes 41 - 49%. Again, you've got possible Defense drops, a critical hit or boosting item to make up the slack. After a Swords Dance Tyranitar takes 81 - 95% without a boosting item. Muscle Band is 89 - 100% and Expert Belt is 97 - 100%. So it's not an absolute (no pun intended) guaranteed victory for Absol, but it's a VERY strong possibility. Absol is also faster than Jolly Tyranitar so you can afford to stay in and finish him off.

Weavile with 6 HP/0 Defense EVs Weavile takes 90 - 100%. That's BEFORE a Swords Dance. Which is good as you can't afford to stay in on Weavile unless it's paralyzed. An item boost guarantees the OHKO.

Houndoom with 6 HP/0 Defense EVs Houndoom takes 53 - 62% Guaranteed 2HKO, OHKO after a Swords Dance obviously and a critical hit will also OHKO. You should switch out of Houndoom really, since he's faster and can OHKO with his Fire moves or burn you with Will-O-Wisp. But it only gets to switch in once.
If you want the Swords Dance set for Absol which works good with Rock Smash then here you go:

Absol @ Leftovers / Expert Belt / Muscle Band / Life Orb
Super Luck / Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 ATK / 240 SPD / 16 HP
- Swords Dance
- Night Slash / Sucker Punch
- Psycho Cut
- Rock Smash / Stone Edge / X-Scissor

Octazooka August 11th, 2007 8:34 AM

Okay rock smash it is :)

yeah restalking isn't as good as it used to be

with my luck it'll be using rest :/

help with last pokemon would be nice

:)

Octazooka August 12th, 2007 8:53 AM

come on people

help would be nice

please :)

The Real AAA August 12th, 2007 9:54 AM

Here's a moveset that I will use for Absol:
  • Sucker Punch
  • Zen Headbutt/Psycho Cut
  • Swords Dance/Curse/Thunder Wave
  • Stone Edge


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