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venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 5:14 AM

team is terrible-need help!!
 
well...this is my team...i dont think its very good, so i need total reconstruction.

[email protected]???
adamant-252 att/252 speed
swords dance
aerial ace
night slash
ice punch
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[email protected]???
adamant-252 att/252 hp
dragon dance
aerial ace
crunch
stone edge
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[email protected] specs
modest-252 speed/ 252 sp att
nasty plot
thunderbolt
ice beam
dark pulse/tri-attack/shadow ball/psychic?
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[email protected] plate
bold-252 hp/ 252 sp def
toxic
surf
ice beam
recover
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[email protected]???
calm-252 speed/ 252 hp
WoW
substitute
charge beam
shadow ball
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well...theres my team. i can slso put these pokemon in for some of those:
gliscor
lucario
manectric
venusaur
staraptor
infernape
crawdaunt
lanturn

please help!

Azonic August 12th, 2007 5:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venusaur huevos rancheros (Post 2744647)
well...this is my team...i dont think its very good, so i need total reconstruction.

[email protected]Life Orb
adamant/Jolly-252 att/252 speed
Brick Break/X-Scissor
Crush Claw/Return
night slash
ice punch

Crush Claw has 50% chance of lowering Defense, which I like, though Return is more powerful
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[email protected]Lefties/Life Orb
adamant-252 att/252 hp
Avalance
EQ
crunch
stone edge

Personally, I don't like DD-tar. Avalanche covers the grass type weakness.
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[email protected] specs/scarf
modest-252 speed/ 252 sp att
Dark Pulse/Shadowball/Signal Beam
thunderbolt/Discharge
ice beam
Tri Attack

Discharge has higher paralysis chance. Though Porygon-Z has 90 Speed, it still may need a little boost from choice scarf.
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[email protected]Burn Orb
bold-252 hp/ 252 sp def
Hypnosis
surf
ice beam
recover
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[email protected]Petaya Berry
calm-252 speed/ 252 hp
WoW/Explosion
Baton Pass
Recycle
shadow ball
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well...theres my team. i can slso put these pokemon in for some of those:
gliscor
lucario
manectric
venusaur
staraptor
infernape

please help!

OK changes in bold... 25 character rule >_< makes me mad

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 5:35 AM

You need a defensive sponge/wall W/E.

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 5:36 AM

i should get rid of nasty plot on porygon-z?also, why recycle on drifblim? im not disagreeing with you, im just asking so that i may comprehend better.

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 5:39 AM

Unless you have god-like prediction skills, nasty plot wont help you much with pory.

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 5:44 AM

ok, thank you cakekun. my prediction skills are nowhere near godlike...i compare my prediction skills to that of an armadillo. anyway, about the defensive wall/sponge. i have two options: umbreon, and lanturn. umbreon would be weak against fighting, which means that 3 pokemon in my team would be weak against fighting. but lanturn doesnt have as good defensive stats...

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 5:46 AM

Here are some good def walls/sponge: Donphan,Weezing,Forretress,the ever popular skarmory,steelix..Pick one. XD

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 5:49 AM

i think i like weezing most out of all of those...can you give me a moveset, and nature and evs?

Azonic August 12th, 2007 5:49 AM

Ummm... the reason why Nasty Plot is gone is cuz u can't use it with a Choice Item.

Recycle on Drifblim raises it's speed stat along with using an Item, due to its Unburden ability.

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 5:52 AM

This is my weezing moveset. Sorry if it sucks >_>

[email protected] Sludge
Relaxed
Dunno EVs yet.
Sludge Bomb/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt
Pain split
Will-o-Wisp
Haze/Explosion

Azonic August 12th, 2007 5:54 AM

Black sludge and Pain Split don't really work well together.

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 5:55 AM

penguinpal: theres just one p[roblem with that...my drifblim is an aftermather.

cakekun:that looks good...ill try it sometime.

Azonic August 12th, 2007 5:59 AM

Aftermath isn't liked because most trainers use special attacks, since they are aware of Aftermath.

Just use Sub-Passing then.

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 6:00 AM

Eh, weezing has crap HP so it might..I just like recovery moves on my sponges..D:

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 6:01 AM

ok, ill use sub passing on drifblim...should i keep charge beam on it though? it almost always raises the sp attack, so it could pass that also, to say my porygon-z...?

Azonic August 12th, 2007 6:08 AM

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Originally Posted by venusaur huevos rancheros (Post 2744770)
ok, ill use sub passing on drifblim...should i keep charge beam on it though? it almost always raises the sp attack, so it could pass that also, to say my porygon-z...?

Probably since WoW decreases the chances of Drifblim getting fainted by a physical attack. However I like Toxic more than both since Shadowball is the only other attack besides Charge Beam

Susselmuch? August 12th, 2007 6:09 AM

Charge beam passing to porygon-z soudns like a good idea, but if porygon-z has been KO'd then its not a brilliant attack.

For a wall, you could try this Donphan set that Cakekun and I came up with for my team:


Donphan @ leftovers/choice band
Impish
Sturdy
188HP/96 ATK/224 DEF
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rest
-Stealth Rock

Egg move Ice Shard helps take out Salamence, Garchomp etc

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 6:16 AM

penguin:you think i should toxic>WoW?
sussel-i just so happen to have some ice sharding donphans, i might try that.

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 6:17 AM

If donphan becomes OU I'll kick myself.

Azonic August 12th, 2007 6:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venusaur huevos rancheros (Post 2744804)
penguin:you think i should toxic>WoW?
sussel-i just so happen to have some ice sharding donphans, i might try that.

Toxic with the Aftermath ability, WoW with Unburden.

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 6:22 AM

i still have a question about my sponge/wall...could i not use lanturn/ umbreon? i already have those all ev trained and everything.

Azonic August 12th, 2007 6:26 AM

Umbereon fell behind in 4th Generation.
Lanturn has terrible stats in every category besides HP.
So no.

venusaur huevos rancheros August 12th, 2007 6:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2744823)
Umbereon fell behind in 4th Generation.
Lanturn has terrible stats in every category besides HP.
So no.


lol, you put that simply, thats a good thing. hmmm...are there any other walls? i dont really like any of the walls that cakekun mentioned...

Azonic August 12th, 2007 6:35 AM

Probopass can be a very nice special wall with help from Tyranitar's Sandstream. It has great defense, the only drawback is the x4 fighting weakness, which is an uncommon attack type.

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 6:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2744843)
Probopass can be a very nice special wall with help from Tyranitar's Sandstream. It has great defense, the only drawback is the x4 fighting weakness, which is an uncommon attack type.

Apparently I OHKOd a probopass with EQ >_> He fails.


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