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Old August 3rd, 2010 (4:09 PM). Edited August 3rd, 2010 by Chaos Rush.
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    So, after I send a PM to you I thought I should maybe give you my thoughts about the game in this topic:

    First I must say that this looks like the best Kanto-Remake I ever saw (and I'm looking for a good one since ages). Seriously, FR/LG just missed so many things that it's kind of sad. However, you managed to fix a whole lot of things. This is what I think is absolutely awesome about the game:

    - Optional battles with Green! I can't imagine Gamefreak didn't manage to implement that after they gave Dawn in D/P/PT the weaker typing to your Pokémon. Great idea.
    Yeah, it annoyed me how in D/P/Pt, you never got to battle Dawn/Lucas. Only alongside them. And it annoyed me further in HG/SS, you never even get to do anything battle related with Ethan/Lyra. And you know that Ethan/Lyra took the final starter, because in HG/SS, after you reach a certain point in the game, if you go back to Elm's lab, you'll notice that all 3 Pokeballs from the machine is gone. Talk to it, and it'll say something like, "You wonder who the last PokeBall was given to..."

    Anyways, lol, and if you play as Green, then you have optional battles with Red! And he has more dialogue than "... ... ... ...", w00t!


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    - The planned changing of the music! I don't now how it will sound, but I'm sure a whole lot better than FR/LG, the Remixes were a catastrophe. The original key just was so much better.
    The old alpha actually has some of the changed music.

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    - Implementing Rocket Executives of HG/SS is a brilliant move as well since they apparently were there in FR/LG and it's a lot nicer having names of Rockets than only grunt after grunt. By the way, please gave Team Rocket more female grunts, there wasn't one in Kanto.
    When I was thinking how to do this hack, I was simply thinking about all the problems that FR/LG had that made it inferior to R/S/E. One thing was that Team Magma & Team Aqua had Admins, which were Courtney & Tabitha (from Team Magma), and also Matt & Shelly (from Team Aqua). I thought that Team Rocket needed some type of trainers that were ranked higher than Grunts, but lower than Giovanni. It then hit me, ARCHER AND ARIANNA!!!

    (Also, for some reason Courtney wasn't present in Pokemon Emerald. Once I make Pokemon Saga - Emerald, I will put Courtney back in)

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    - All Pokémon in the National Dex being obtainable before the Elite 4! Was a big flop in FR/LG too that you didn't even see every Pokémon used from a trainer. Maybe it would be a good idea doing it like D/P/PT and make all able to see before the E4 if you battle every trainer (and Oaks aids and himself count seeing Pokémon instead of catched. He first gives you the National Dex once you have seen all in the Kanto Dex).
    That's not exactly it. You will not be able to catch all Pokemon in the National Dex before the Elite Four. I have this imaginary Kanto dex planned out, and I hope to somehow hack it into the game, but right now it's kinda impossible. (check the end of this post to see my imaginary Kanto Dex)


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    Now I would like to mention some things I would find cool to see them in the game, at least if you are willing to do that, if not it's your decision of course:

    1) Will the trainers in the GYMs be better balanced? in FR/LG the first GYM hat 1, the second Gym 2 and the third GYM 3 trainers...not very sharp. Normally the first GYM hast 2/3 trainers, the second one 4/5 and the third one 5/6. So the numbers in FR/LG are kind of ridiculous. You already told me by PM that you'll fix Brock but what's with the others?
    I'll mostly add a trainer to each Gym, except for one where I think it's enough. I already told you in the PM that Brock's Gym will have 2 trainers:


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    2) The levelkurve. I think the games were way to easy in terms of levels. Especially after you received the Silph Scope the game stagnated and levels reminded the same until the sea routes (and those Pokémon actually were things like Goldeen). I think that could be changed it that Rocket would just block the entrance of the Silph Tower until Koga is beaten. He actually is the 5. GYM Leader in the list so why not beat him first? That way the levels of the Rockets in the Silph Tower could all be boosted a lot and the whole Rocket-Saga would last a bit longer considering we could first go there at a later point.
    Kanto is an interesting region, I always kind of liked how once you cleared out the Pokemon Tower, you had a choice of going down either Cycling Rode, or that Route below Lavender, either way you end up in Fuschia City, and I always thought that you take the Route that you didn't take earlier back, and then walk to Saffron, that way you encounter both Snorlaxes.

    I always hate how some people think that Sabrina is the 5th Gym Leader, even though in the Badge order, Koga is listed as #5. The level curve will be changed, but it's going to be a surprise...

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    3) Talking about the Rockets, how about do a expand to their plot-line and let Giovanni hunt them after the legendary birds? He lets his two executives to Articuno and Zapdos (the Seafom Islands and the Power Plant would then have a full Rockets to beat one which end you can catch the legendary bird. Giovanni could take over the last one on Mount Ember. The plot-line could be that Team Rocket wants to hunt down the legendary Pokémon to become extremely powerful and wants the Silph Co. to give them the Master Ball technology in order to do that. However, they fail but try to hunt them down anyway. After you stop Giovanni catching Moltres he could admit that Team Rocket is weakened but he'll do everything do find new members and let it live again. At least that could be an idea...
    Sorry, but I think Team Rocket is badass at how they're the only team that doesn't go after Legendaries. The Team Rocket saga will end at Silph Co.

    (Also, Moltres will once again be in Victory Road).

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    4) Oh yeah is there any chance for a legendary bird or at least a legendary Pokémon tune? That missed badly in FR/LG.
    Maybe. I wish HG/SS made a tune for them...

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    5) Since Kanto actually has big cities but they are really fast to explore anyway they could maybe be bulked up a bit. I was thinking about mixing up Kanto-buildings in HG/SS with the ones in FR/LG. For example putting the Trainer House in Viridian City and implement a person you can challenge every day. His levels get higher with every GYM leader and like in G/S/C you get experience points.
    Text in HG/SS suggests that the Trainer House was built somewhat recently. My theory is, in the 3 years between FireRed/LeafGreen/DarkViolet and HG/SS, is that there will lots of kiddies in Viridian City, so there was a Trainer School. During the 3 years, all the kiddies grew up, so they turned it into a Trainer House.

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    Other things would be for example:
    - three stories in the museum of Pewter City, one from HG/SS the other two from FR/LG in great graphic
    There's only one story in HG/SS, and I doubt that they would remove 2 whole stories in 3 years, so there's just going to be 1 story in DarkViolet.

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    - the old guy in Vermillion City could finally finish that house aftet the Elite 4 and give it you as a sort of prize
    There's no building in HG/SS, which takes place 3 years after DarkViolet. Why would they demolish a building?

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    - maybe make a one territory, sort of a dessert which wasn't represented in FR/LG but in the Emerald tiles. I thought of maybe a sidepath in Digglets Cave or the Dark Cave which brings you to a dessert area. At the end of it you could find a move tutor who gives you actually cool attacks like the elemental punches.
    Not really sure how I can implement that. (and Dark Cave isn't in Kanto)

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    - Saffron City should actually be a big place but there were SO few buildings to go in that it went really fast to explore the whole area. Maybe you can make a few more buildings accessible so it becomes a bit larger.
    The amount of buildings you can access will be the same as HG/SS. However, in DarkViolet, there is no Train Station, so you can expect about 2-3 new buildings there.

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    6) Berries. Kanto is the only region without berry bunches even dough it had it's chance to change it. Since it's a Emerald Hack they are in the game code so it would be pretty cool if you could make berry bundles all over the place.
    But the thing is, they aren't in HG/SS, and I have to go with that. I was planning on making some kind of Greenhouse to replace the Daycare on Four Island, where people can buy berries. My theory is that the Kanto & Johto regions don't have soil that is able to grow berries, which is why all those berries were removed in HG/SS and replaced with Apricorns.

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    7) Weather areas were missing throughout FR/LG too. For example I think Routes 24 and 25 would be good for raining. You could implement weather routes like that or that it's really hot on Cinebear Island or something like that.
    That's a good idea. Since there's puddles in Route 24 & 25.

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    8) Starter Pokémon? Since it's a Hack trading is kind of impossible. Will there by an opportunity to become the other starter Pokémon short before/after the Elite 4?
    Yep. There's going to be a new place in the Battle Frontier called the Emerald Giftshop (when I make Pokemon Saga - Emerald, there will be a new place called the Violet Giftshop lol). In the Emerald Giftshop, you can buy Pokemon from other regions, plus Starter Pokemon.

    EDIT: I realized that by doing this, you can't complete the imaginary Kanto Dex until you reach the Battle Frontier D: ...
    I'll probably just make them in-game trades. That's where breeding will come in handy. (Yes, in this hack, I'm going to let you breed Pokemon before the Elite Four, unlike FR/LG. And I will remove the Four Island daycare, and replace it with a Berry Greenhouse!)

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    9) Will the tickets for the Islands on which Ho-Oh/Lugia, Deoxys and Mew can be caught? Would be awesome.
    Yep :D.


    Anyways, if you remember, earlier in the post, I said that I'm going to post my imaginary Kanto Dex. Here it is:
    Spoiler:

    Bulbasaur
    Ivysaur
    Venusaur
    Charmander
    Charmeleon
    Charizard
    Squirtle
    Wartortle
    Blastoise
    Caterpie
    Metapod
    Butterfree
    Weedle
    Kakuna
    Beedrill
    Ledyba
    Ledian
    Spinarak
    Ariados
    Pidgey
    Pidgeotto
    Pidgeot
    Rattata
    Raticate
    Sentret
    Furret
    Spearow
    Fearow
    Hoothoot
    Noctowl
    Ekans
    Arbok
    Pichu
    Pikachu
    Raichu
    Sandshrew
    Sandslash
    Nidoran F
    Nidorina
    Nidoqueen
    Nidoran M
    Nidorino
    Nidoking
    Cleffa
    Clefairy
    Clefable
    Vulpix
    Ninetales
    Igglybuff
    Jigglypuff
    Wigglytuff
    Zubat
    Golbat
    Crobat
    Oddish
    Gloom
    Vileplume
    Bellossom
    Sunkern
    Sunflora
    Paras
    Parasect
    Venonat
    Venomoth
    Diglett
    Dugtrio
    Meowth
    Persian
    Psyduck
    Golduck
    Mankey
    Primeape
    Growlithe
    Arcanine
    Poliwag
    Poliwhirl
    Poliwrath
    Politoed
    Abra
    Kadabra
    Alakazam
    Machop
    Machoke
    Machamp
    Bellsprout
    Weepinbel
    Victreebel
    Hoppip
    Skiploom
    Jumpluff
    Tentacool
    Tentacruel
    Wooper
    Quagsire
    Geodude
    Graveler
    Golem
    Ponyta
    Rapidash
    Houndour
    Houndoom
    Slowpoke
    Slowbro
    Slowking
    Magnemite
    Magneton
    Farfetch’d
    Doduo
    Dodrio
    Seel
    Dewgong
    Grimer
    Muk
    Shellder
    Cloyster
    Gastly
    Haunter
    Gengar
    Onix
    Steelix
    Drowzee
    Hypno
    Murkrow
    Krabby
    Kingler
    Voltorb
    Electrode
    Exeggcute
    Exeggutor
    Cubone
    Marowak
    Wynaut
    Wobbuffet
    Tyrogue
    Hitmonlee
    Hitmonchan
    Hitmontop
    Lickitung
    Koffing
    Weezing
    Slugma
    Magcargo
    Rhyhorn
    Rhydon
    Chansey
    Blissey
    Tangela
    Kangaskhan
    Horsea
    Seadra
    Kingdra
    Azurill
    Marill
    Azumarill
    Goldeen
    Seaking
    Staryu
    Starmie
    Mr. Mime
    Scyther
    Scizor
    Smoochum
    Jynx
    Teddiursa
    Ursaring
    Phanpy
    Donphan
    Elekid
    Electabuzz
    Magby
    Magmar
    Pinsir
    Tauros
    Miltank
    Chinchou
    Lanturn
    Magikarp
    Gyarados
    Lapras
    Ditto
    Eevee
    Vaporeon
    Jolteon
    Flareon
    Espeon
    Umbreon
    Porygon
    Porygon2
    Omanyte
    Omastar
    Kabuto
    Kabutops
    Aerodactyl
    Snorlax
    Articuno
    Zapdos
    Moltres
    Dratini
    Dragonair
    Dragonite
    Mewtwo
    Mew

    That's 202 Pokemon. Obviously, Bulbasaur is #001, and Mew is now #202. There's 151 Pokemon from Generation I, a few Pokemon from Generation II, and 2 Pokemon from Generation III (Azurill and Wynaut).
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