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Old October 12th, 2012 (12:13 PM).
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Biden won this one. He had the passion and a response for every assertion that Ryan made. Ryan stayed cool, which is good for him, and he presented his points which will make Republicans happy, but he had no zingers, no defining moments, and fell apart on foreign policy. Funny how Ryan said, basically, that he pretty much agrees with the president on Syria, Iran, and Afghanistan, but then at the same time criticizes the president for his stance on Syria, Iran, and Afghanistan.

Also, glad that 47% got brought up and women's issues a.k.a. abortion. Fantastic job by Martha Raddatz in moderating this. She might be the real winner overall.
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