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Old October 14th, 2013 (12:24 AM).
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    Originally Posted by Victreebel's Bro View Post
    252 sp.atk/4 sp.def/252 spe
    Timid nature @Life orb
    -Hidden Power Ice
    -Shadow Ball
    -Signal Beam

    Any electric attack completely destroys Gyarados, and Jolteon is one of the best ways to counter Gyarados. It out speeds Gyarados and can just set off an electric type move with its impressive base 110 special attack stat (most likely Thunder because normally Gyarados is in the rain)
    Jolteon gets OHKO'd if it switches into Waterfall or Earthquake. Jolteon is only a check, not a counter. Please read the OP for more details.

    Originally Posted by Perdition Haze View Post
    Gyarados w/Lum Berry
    Ability: Moxie
    Adamant nature
    252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    ~ Dragon Dance
    ~ Waterfall
    ~ Bounce
    ~ Earthquake
    Suicune @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Hydro Pump
    - Calm Mind
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power [Electric]

    252+ Atk Gyarados Bounce vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 132-156 (38.7 - 45.74%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252 SpA Suicune Hidden Power Electric vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 240-284 (72.5 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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