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Shizzable

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I just got Greninja'd D:
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Arcanine @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef / 176 Spe
-Flare Blitz
-Extreme Speed
-Wild Charge
-Close Combat

Arcanine can easily outspeed and burn Amoonguss to a crisp.
 
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Swampert w/ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Relaxed
240 HP / 16 Atk / 252 Def
~ Stealth Rock
~ Waterfall
~ Earthquake
~ Toxic

Should be able to endure a few hits from Arcanine due to its defenses, then vanish it with Waterfall and Earthquake.
 

Nolafus

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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed

Resists all of your attacks, is immune to leech seed, and can strike back hard with Gyro Ball.
 

Nolafus

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Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

A physically defensive Rotom-W can resist Infernape's special moves while also tanking the physical hits. Not to mention Infernape doesn't stand much of a chance against that Hydro Pump
 
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Celebi w/ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Calm
252 HP / 236 SpD / 20 Spe
~ Giga Drain
~ Recover
~ U-turn
~ Perish Song

Could endure dozens of Volt Switches and Hydro Pumps, and wouldn't really matter if it ever gets burned with Will-O-Wisp as it's mainly a special-attacker (plus, it's got Natural Cure). d: With only a few Giga Drain attacks, it could defeat Rotom in an instant.
 

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-Moltres w/Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Ability: Pressure (not sure if you can actually get a Flame Body Moltres)
EVs: 248 HP, 32 Defense, 228 Speed
Moves: Roost, Substitute, Toxic, Flamethrower

Moltres lols at 3 of Scizor's attacks, and can take a Pursuit. It can then set up a Sub, heal, then turn Scizor into charred bug bits. Or just immediately torch Scizor.
 
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Moltres is completely unable to hit Flash Fire Chandelure, won't live long enough to Toxic stall, and is 2HKO'd by Shadow Ball and Flash Fire-boosted Fire Blast.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Chandelure Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Moltres: 276-324 (72 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Moltres: 267-315 (69.7 - 82.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Chandelure @ Choice Specs
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
- Trick
 
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EL DIABLO @ Houndoominite
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
-Nasty Plot
-Dark Pulse
-Flamethrower
-Hidden Power Grass

Absorbs any fire attacks with Flash Fire before he mega evolves, then he outspeeds and basically gets an OHKO 252 SpA Mega Houndoom Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Chandelure: 302-356 (93.2 - 109.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO, even if he doesn't then Chandelure isn't tricking or hurting it.
 

Nah

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-Goodra w/Assault Vest
Nature: Modest
Ability: Gooey
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 4 Defense
Moves: Dragon Pulse, Flamthrower, Thunderbolt, Sludge Wave

+2 252 SpA Mega Houndoom Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 130-154 (33.8 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Goodra Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Houndoom: 148-175 (50.8 - 60.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Even at +2, Mega Houndoom can only 3HKO Goodra at best, while 2 Dragon Pulses from our slimy dragon friend can put the hell hound down.
 
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Florges's massive 154 Base SpDef lets her absorb anything Goodra can do, with Sludge Wave being a 3HKO at best. With CM boosts under her belt, she can smack Goodra around like it's nothing.

252+ SpA Goodra Sludge Wave vs. 200 HP / 56 SpD Florges: 136-160 (39.1 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Goodra Sludge Wave vs. +1 200 HP / 56 SpD Florges: 90-108 (25.9 - 31.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Florges Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 190-226 (49.4 - 58.8%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO
+1 252+ SpA Life Orb Florges Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 283-335 (73.6 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Florges (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 56 SDef / 200 HP / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature
- Moonblast
- Energy Ball
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
 
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Zeffy

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Metagross @Choice Band
EVs: 164 HP / 252 Atk / 92 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Hammer Arm
- Thunder Punch

Metagross can switch in on any of Florges' moves, as long as it doesn't have 6 CM boosts, and threaten to OHKO with Meteor Mash or go with Bullet Punch for an overall safer KO.

252+ SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 164 HP / 0 SpD Metagross: 84-99 (24.5 - 28.9%) -- 99.8% chance to 4HKO
+1 252+ SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 164 HP / 0 SpD Metagross: 126-148 (36.8 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252+ SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 164 HP / 0 SpD Metagross: 168-198 (49.1 - 57.8%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO
+3 252+ SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 164 HP / 0 SpD Metagross: 209-246 (61.1 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Florges: 680-804 (195.9 - 231.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Bullet Punch vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Florges: 306-360 (88.1 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
 

Shizzable

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Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SAtk
Nature: Bold
- Scald
- Thunder Wave
- Slack Off
- Fire Blast

Even though Metagross' Thunder Punch can 2HKO, Slowbro can cripple it with Thunder Wave, hope for a burn with Scald, or hit it with a Fire Blast. If that doesn't work, it can come out and right back in for round 2 thanks to its wonderful ability, Regenerator.
 

Nah

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Not sure if Slowbro really is a counter to CB Metagross, but whatever...

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-Vaporeon w/Lum Berry
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Scald, Toxic, Protect, Wish

My lovely Vaporeon. Its immune to Scald, and Fire Blast does a laughable amount of damage to it. Thunder Wave is pointless, and since Slowbro doesn't have its own Toxic, Vaporeon wins the stall war.
 

Dark Azelf

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Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD
Impish Nature
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang
-Slack Off
-Stealth Rock

Can take a Flare Blitz/Close Combat or two, then OHKOs back with Earthquake.

CB Iron Fist CC 2HKo's, its not a counter.

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Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SAtk
Nature: Bold
- Scald
- Thunder Wave
- Slack Off
- Fire Blast

Even though Metagross' Thunder Punch can 2HKO, Slowbro can cripple it with Thunder Wave, hope for a burn with Scald, or hit it with a Fire Blast. If that doesn't work, it can come out and right back in for round 2 thanks to its wonderful ability, Regenerator.

The bolded makes it moot as a counter. :/

Not sure if Slowbro really is a counter to CB Metagross, but whatever...

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-Vaporeon w/Lum Berry
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Scald, Toxic, Protect, Wish

My lovely Vaporeon. Its immune to Scald, and Fire Blast does a laughable amount of damage to it. Thunder Wave is pointless, and since Slowbro doesn't have its own Toxic, Vaporeon wins the stall war.


Shaymin@Life Orb
252 S.Atk / 252 Speed/6 HP
Modest Nature
Trait: Natural Cure
- Seed Flare
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Rest

Can switch into anything and ruin Vaporeon with STAB Seed Flare. Can also Rest off burns and Toxics.
 

Nolafus

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Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch
Either resists or is immune to all of Shaymin's attacks while striking back with a SE Fire Punch. Not much you can do there.
 

PlatinumDude

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Shizzable

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Magnezone @ Choice Specs
Ability: Sturdy
Nature: Modest
EVs: 172 HP / 252 SAtk / 84 Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power Ice
- Volt Switch

Porygon2 can barely scratch Magnezone, as it resists dem attacks. Alos, it's immune to Toxic.
 
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