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SnailCandy

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Nymphadora said:
252 Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 181-213 (64.4 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Lulz, anyway!

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Talonflame @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Brave Bird
-Flare Blitz
-U-Turn
-Steel Wing

252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 320-378 (113.8 - 134.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 188-222 (63 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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PlatinumDude

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SnailCandy said:
Nymphadora said:
252 Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 181-213 (64.4 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Lulz, anyway!

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Talonflame @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Brave Bird
-Flare Blitz
-U-Turn
-Steel Wing

252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 320-378 (113.8 - 134.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 188-222 (63 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Gale Wings is kinda redundant with Choice Scarf, you know.

Anyway:
Regirock:
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-Stealth Rock
-Rock Slide
-Drain Punch
-Toxic
Nature: Impish
EVs: 240 HP/252 Atk/16 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Regirock takes a pittance from everything Talonflame throws at it, even Steel Wing and threatens it out with Rock Slide or Toxic, or even uses the switch-out to set up Stealth Rock.
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Jin Of The Gale

Jin Of The Gale

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Aegislash (M) @ Spooky Plate
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 96 HP / 144 Atk / 252 SAtk / 16 Spd
Rash Nature
- King's Shield
- Shadow Ball
- Shadow Sneak
- Flash Cannon

Aeglislash takes around 40% from Rock Slide and it 2HKOs Regirock with Flash Cannon.

252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Flash Cannon vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Regirock: 320-378 (88.6 - 104.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Regirock Rock Slide vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 97-114 (34 - 40%) -- 40.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
KorpiklaaniVodka

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Goodra @ Choice Specs / Assault Vest
Trait: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Def
Modest Nature

- Draco Meteor
- Flash Cannon Sludge Wave
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt / Dragon Pulse

Goodra takes low damage from Shadow Ball and Flash Cannon thanks to its massive special defense (which is even further bolstered with an Assault Vest), and Shadow Sneak only deals about 25%. Fire Blast is an OHKO no matter how you look at it.
 
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Nah

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-Garchomp w/Haban Berry
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Outrage, Earthquake, Swords Dance, Stone Edge


Thanks to the Haban Berry, Garchomp can survive a Draco Meteor:


252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Haban Berry Garchomp: 237-280 (66.2 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Then you know the rest.
 

Jet Pilot

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Alakazam @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Timid Nature
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hidden Power Ice
Signal Beam
Psyshock
Focus Blast

252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 406-478 (113.4 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Nah

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Jet Pilot said:
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Alakazam @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Timid Nature
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hidden Power Ice
Signal Beam
Psyshock
Focus Blast

252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 406-478 (113.4 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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That is a really shaky counter at best, since Outrage and Earthquake cleanly OHKO Alakazam, and Stone Edge drops its HP by at least 80%:
252 Atk Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 204-241 (80.9 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Anyway:
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-Spiritomb w/Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Sucker Punch, Shadow Sneak, Toxic, Dark Pulse


Is immune to Psyshock and Focus Blast, and can take a few Signal Beams and/or Hidden Power Ices:
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Signal Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Spiritomb: 103-121 (33.8 - 39.8%) -- 23.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Spiritomb: 82-97 (26.9 - 31.9%) -- 42.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


Then OHKOS with Sucker Punch, which will not fail since Alakazam is running all attack moves>







 
Hiatus

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Sylveon @ Leftovers
Trait: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
  • Hyper Voice
  • Wish
  • Heal Bell
  • Protect

Doesn't take much damage from any of Spiritomb's attacks; takes it down with a couple of Hyper Voices.

4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Spiritomb: 254-302 (83.5 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Spiritomb Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 80-95 (20.3 - 24.1%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Spiritomb Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 81-96 (20.5 - 24.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
KorpiklaaniVodka

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Heatran @ Life Orb
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature

- Fire Blast
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power Grass
- Earth Power

Sigh... do I even need to explain? Hyper Voice deals nothing to Heatran, which 4x resists Fairy, while Flash Cannon 2HKOes even specially defensive Sylveon with the help of a Life Orb.
 

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Mega Charizard Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze (Drought)
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spd
Nature: Hasty
- Flare Blitz
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake
- Roost

252+ SpA Life Orb Heatran Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 170-201 (57.2 - 67.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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A Fire Blast from Heatran only 2HKOs. Mega Charizard Y outspeeds and OHKOs with Earthquake on the following turn.
 
Jin Of The Gale

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Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang

Intimidate lowers Charizard's Attack stat. The strongest move Charizard can hit Gyarados with is Flare Blitz which only deals around 37% in Sun.

-1 252 Atk Mega Charizard Y Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados in Sun: 102-120 (30.7 - 36.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 188-224 (63.2 - 75.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
KorpiklaaniVodka

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Avalugg @ Choice Band
Trait: Ice Body
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 228 Def
Adamant Nature

- Avalanche
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang

Avalugg has an extreme physical defense and a great base Attack stat, which are requirements in order to be a proper counter to DD Gyara, even at -1. Here are some calcs to prove that:

252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 228 Def Avalugg: 72-85 (18.2 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
+1 252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 228 Def Avalugg: 108-127 (27.4 - 32.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+2 252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 228 Def Avalugg: 144-169 (36.5 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

-1 28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Avalanche vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 202-238 (60.8 - 71.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Avalanche vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 303-357 (91.2 - 107.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
-1 28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 226-266 (68 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 338-398 (101.8 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Hiatus

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Heatran @ Air Balloon
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Toxic

Tried my best to not use Heatran, but couldn't think of anything better. Sorry. ;; Anyway, Heatran should be able to withstand any of Avalugg's attacks without any issues, then knock it out with Lava Plume.

4 SpA Heatran Lava Plume vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 398-470 (101 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 132-156 (34.1 - 40.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
Arc

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Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Nature: Adamant
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Superpower
- Play Rough

Resists Heatran's main stab, and Earth Power doesn't really bother Azumarill. Which Azumarill can either OHKO with Waterfall or 2HKO with Aqua Jet.

4 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 97-115 (24 - 28.4%) -- 97% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 456-536 (118.1 - 138.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Jin Of The Gale

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Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
- Sleep Powder
- Hidden Power [Ground]

Venusaur resists all of Azumarill's moves and 2HKOs it with Sludge Bomb or Giga Drain.

252+ SpA Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 320-380 (79.2 - 94%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 270-318 (66.8 - 78.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venusaur: 156-183 (42.8 - 50.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venusaur: 138-163 (37.9 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Arc

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Metagross @ Assault Vest
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
Nature: Adamant
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Earthquake
- Bullet Punch

Metagross is immune to Sludge Bomb, Giga Drain does very little to scratch Meta, and Hidden Power is a 4HKO. All the while, Metagross can OHKO with a Zen Headbutt.

252+ Atk Metagross Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venusaur: 344-408 (94.5 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Venusaur Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Metagross: 88-104 (24.1 - 28.5%) -- 96.9% chance to 4HKO
 

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Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
Nature: Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast

Resists everything sans EQ - which has a shot to 5hko if Slowbro doesn't do anything, hell, it heals off more by switching than Meta could do to it. In return it can either 3hko w/ Fire Blast or just spam Scald until something is burned - regardless this is one massive uphill battle for poor Metagross.
 
Jin Of The Gale

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Starmie @ Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Psychic

I don't think it needs any explanation.

4 SpA Slowbro Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 49-58 (18.7 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
4 SpA Slowbro Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 45-53 (17.2 - 20.3%) -- possible 5HKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Starmie Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowbro: 281-333 (71.3 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
KorpiklaaniVodka

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Florges @ Leftovers
Trait: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 20 SpA / 236 SpD
Calm Nature

- Moonblast
- Toxic
- Wish
- Protect

With 20 SpA EVs, Florges can 2HKO Starmie with Moonblast, while Surf caps at 30.5% even with Life Orb and a Modest nature. Wish and Protect make sure Florges can win even if Starmie gets a critical hit.

20 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 132-156 (50.5 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Starmie Surf vs. 252 HP / 236+ SpD Florges: 94-110 (26.1 - 30.5%) -- 3.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch

Takes Florges down with Iron Head as soon as it gets sent out on the field. Rarely see this Pokémon being used around here, so I thought I should give it a go. :p

252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Florges: 499-588 (138.6 - 163.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
20 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 154-183 (55.1 - 65.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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