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Ferrothorn (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
  • Bulldoze
  • Power Whip
  • Gyro Ball
  • Explosion

Endures all attacks by Suicune, then finishes it off with a Power Whip or two.
 
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Heatran (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Blast/Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Dragon Pulse

252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Explosion vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 170-200 (52.4 - 61.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 61-72 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (91 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 46-55 (14.1 - 16.9%) -- possible 6HKO
 
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Star_Storm

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Volcarona (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
Modest/Timid
- Quiver Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power (Water)

Switches into a fire move, sets up a Quiver Dance and that's all she wrote! After the Quiver Dance, its special defense is high enough to take anything the Heatran set above can throw at it.
 

Nah

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I don't think Volcarona quite counters Heatran, but whatever.

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-Salamence w/Choice Scarf
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Steel Wing, Fire Blast

A little different from the normal set, but it works.

+1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 238-281 (71.9 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Salamence survives Volcarona's most powerful attack against it even at +1, then outspeeds due to Choice Scarf, and OHKOs with Stone Edge (which Volcarona has no hope of surviving).
 
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Corsola @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Toxic​

252 Atk Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corsola: 109-129 (34.7 - 41%)
4 SpA Corsola Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salamence: 224-264 (67.6 - 79.7%)
WALLED
 

Nah

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Well, there's something that probably hasn't been used before. {:3}

Bit sad for Salamence getting walled by Corsola, of all things.

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-Sceptile w/Occa Berry
Nature: Lonely
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 AttacK, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Leaf Blade, Giga Drain, Focus Blast, Rock Slide

4 SpA Corsola Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Sceptile: 106-126 (37.7 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

And Leaf Blade/Giga Drain don't really need calcs...
 

PlatinumDude

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Always wanted to do this one:

Escavalier:
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-Megahorn
-Iron Head
-Drill Run
-Pursuit
Nature: Brave
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Overcoat

Escavalier quad resists Leaf Blade and Giga Drain; it's also able to take a Focus Blast nicely thanks to the buffed Special Defense granted by Assault Vest. It still has enough physical bulk to tank a Rock Slide, and OHKOs Sceptile with Megahorn.
 
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Ninetales (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Drought
EVs: 80 HP / 56 Def / 252 SAtk / 120 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Energy Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
- Flamethrower

Could take down Escavalier with either Flamethrower or Fire Blast.

252 SpA Ninetales Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Escavalier in Sun: 508-600 (147.6 - 174.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Ninetales Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Escavalier in Sun: 412-492 (119.7 - 143%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Cradily @ Leftovers
Ability: Suction Cups
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Rock Slide
- Rest
- Sleep Talk​

252 SpA Ninetales Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Cradily in Sun: 136-162 (36.1 - 43%)
0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 60 HP / 0 Def Ninetales: 174-206 (57.6 - 68.2%)
+6 0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 60 HP / 0 Def Ninetales: 686-810 (227.1 - 268.2%)
Just realized that the Ninetales had not only Flamethrower but also Fire Blast. It does quite a bit, boo.
 

Tyrael

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Spoiler:


Ninja'd :(


Magnezone @ Choice Specs
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Flash Cannon
- HP Fire
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch

0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 30-36 (8.7 - 10.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
+6 0 Atk Cradily Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 120-141 (34.8 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Cradily: 296-350 (78.7 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Magnezone takes pretty much nothing from unboosted Rock Slide and can manage to take a few +6 as it is. Will 2HKO back without a doubt with Flash Cannon.
 
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Gastrodon (M) @ Wise Glasses
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 172 HP / 84 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Recover

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 127-150 (31.2 - 36.9%) -- 79.1% chance to 3HKO
252+ SpA Wise Glasses Gastrodon Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 612-724 (177.9 - 210.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Zeffy

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Mantine @Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Nature: Modest
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power Grass
- Air Slash
- Rest

252+ SpA Wise Glasses Gastrodon Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Mantine: 54-64 (19.8 - 23.5%) -- possible 5HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Mantine Hidden Power Grass vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Gastrodon: 291-348 (71.6 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

...why did I do this again?
 
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Thundurus-T @ Life Orb
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Agility
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot
- Focus Blast

Should be able to defeat Mantine pretty easily with Thunderbolt.
 
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Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Giga Drain
- Earth Power
- Psychic

252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus-T Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 104-122 (30.4 - 35.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus-T: 162-192 (54 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Nah

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Counter a legendary with another legendary, the counter THAT legendary with yet another one!

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-Latias w/Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Recover, Psyshock

252 SpA Life Orb Latias Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 229-270 (66.9 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 54-63 (17.8 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO

252+ SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 45-53 (14.9 - 17.5%) -- possible 6HKO

Latias wins.

And whoever's next, try to do it without using a legendary so we don't get into a legendaries loop.
 

Dark Azelf

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Counter a legendary with another legendary, the counter THAT legendary with yet another one!

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-Latias w/Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Recover, Psyshock

252 SpA Life Orb Latias Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 229-270 (66.9 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 54-63 (17.8 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO

252+ SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 45-53 (14.9 - 17.5%) -- possible 6HKO

Latias wins.

And whoever's next, try to do it without using a legendary so we don't get into a legendaries loop.

Who cares, they are ou, so whats the big deal?

Anyway;

Genesect@Life Orb
252 Atk / 176 Speed / 80 HP
Adamant Nature
Trait: Download
- Shift Gear
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor
- Blaze Kick

Latias cant do anything bar being set up bait.
 
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Torkoal (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Yawn

Torkoal can take any of Genesect's attacks and OHKO with Lava Plume.
 

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Kingdra (F) Dragon Fang
Trait:Sniper
EVs:252 Speed / 252 Spa / 6 Hp
Careful nature
-Dragon pulse
-Yawn
-Surf
-Dragon Dance
 
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Kingdra (F) Dragon Fang
Trait:Sniper
EVs:252 Speed / 252 Atk / 6 Spa
Careful nature
-Dragon pulse
-Dragon claw
-Surf
-Dragon Dance
First of all, Kingdra does not learn Dragon Claw so the 252 EVs it has on its Attack stat is useless.

Empoleon (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot

Grass Knot 2HKOs Kingdra.
 
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Black Kyurem @ Choice Band
Trait: Teravolt
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature(+Spd, -SDef)
  • Outrage
  • Ice Beam
  • Stone Edge
  • Fusion Bolt

Knocks Empoleon down with only just one Fusion Bolt attack. If you use Outrage, then Empoleon could be defeated within two turns.

252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Empoleon: 488-576 (157.9 - 186.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Empoleon: 219-258 (70.8 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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