6th Gen Evolution/Pre-evolution Speculation

Maybe Grass/Flying? Which speaking of which I'll like it if Whimsicott evolved into Grass/Flying as it seems to know several flying moves, and seems like the Unova clone to Jumpluff.

I agree with that. What's more interesting is what it can get in terms of abilities, and that Whimsicott would be able to last muuuch longer with eviolite and prank people much easier than it did before! n_n

Seeing all the evo/split-evo talk, how many evolutions are you guys expecting ? I think they'll do something in between Sinnoh(29) and Johto(19).

I'd be pretty happy with that number. I don't want this region's dex to be overflooding with new evolutions/pre-evolutinos anyways. I'd rather have more new Pokémon with a handful of old ones getting some buffs.

I was actually pretty surprised that they didn't do that originally in GSC when Bellossom was introduced. It's pretty fair to say they are counterparts to one another (since they have different version exclusivity as the Grass/Poison types), and both appeared in the GSC games. I'd love to see Weepinbell be given an alternate evolution to Victrebell, although I have no idea what it would evolve into.

I think Bellsprout line is long gone, imo. Victreebel is great as it is and a second evolution just seems pointless because Weepinbel doesn't really look like it can go any other way.

Then again did it really appear from Gloom that it would evolve into anything but Vileplume? It's definitely possible, but you're probably right that's it's passed its time.

Zet said:

It would be interesting to see pre-evolution forms of the starter pokemon.

Click to expand...

…especially if they went multiple levels deep. Imagine having one region's starters' shared pre-evolution share a pre-evolution with another region's starters' shared pre-evolution. Or the starters might not all need to be related directly to each other (you can always go through Mew, even though evolution doesn't work that way.)

Suicune™ said:

I'd like to see this get both a Pre-evolution & Evolution, it's got so much potential too.

Click to expand...

I think that Maractus should be evolutionarily linked to Cacnea and Cacturn. I mean, come on, they're all cactus Pokémon!

RandomDSdevel said:

…especially if they went multiple levels deep. Imagine having one region's starters' shared pre-evolution share a pre-evolution with another region's starters' shared pre-evolution. Or the starters might not all need to be related directly to each other (you can always go through Mew, even though evolution doesn't work that way.)

Click to expand...

Starters can't have Pre-evolutions. They are already in 3 stage sets.

RandomDSdevel said:

I think that Maractus should be evolutionarily linked to Cacnea and Cacturn. I mean, come on, they're all cactus Pokémon!

Click to expand...

Same base doesn't mean same species. Pikachu, Rattatta, and Sandshrew are all mouse Pokemon. By that they should all share an evolutionary family.

This is of course ignoring the fact that no Gen 5 Pokemon are related to older generation Pokemon as stated by the creators.

I doubt we'll ever get any linking between Gen 5 and past generation Pokemon.

Just to add onto this, just because things LOOK like they should be linked (which many people still won't stop about Luvdisc and Alomomola), it doesn't mean that they are going to link them for fan service. Besides, Maractus looks NOTHING like Cacnea and Caturne do, so that wouldn't make sense for it to be any sort of evolution to the two of them.

And I don't see there being multiple links for pre-evolutions of things into random families like you were suggesting. For starters, it'd make zero sense for the starters to have a common link to evolve into everything (for both the already existing three-stage evolution). Honestly just sounds ridiculous to me =x

Scarf said:

Please give a Crobat-like evolution for Swoobat. I love that line, but it's so frail and frustrating to use.

Lots of branching evolutions would be great. I would love to see lines that we already think of as complete have new ones added to them, like Gallade does on the Ralts line.

Click to expand...

Woobat/Swoobat look similar to Zubat/Golbat/Crobat, but have fur, and have similar names. Can we get a common pre-evolution for these two lines?

No. Zubat's line is already three stages, it's not going to be given any sort of new pre-evolution or evolution. However I'd definitely be fine giving the Woobat line a third evolution similar to the friendship one of Crobat.

Raichupacabra said:

I think they should include pre-evolutions and evolutions to Pokemon that certainly need them, such as Farfetch'd. Hopefully they don't pull a Generation IV and have a huge number of the new Pokemon as evolutions and pre-evolutions.

Click to expand...

Yeah; if they do have a large number of pre- and post-evolution Pokémon star in the new region's PokéDex, then that number of evolution-affected Pokémon from previous generations had better be balanced out with about an equal number (or maybe twice as many) new Pokémon as new evolutions and pre-evolutions.

DarkRisingGirl said:

If Pinsir gets an evolution, so should Heracross. Who really doesn't need one seeing as how strong it already is. I like your more Rotoms idea though!

Click to expand...

I think that Pinsir and Heracross should share a pre-evolution even if they both get post-evolutions.

Cerberus87 said:

I don't think there'll be new evolutions of anything unless they have an evolution theme going on. Which is actually quite likely, since X and Y point to genetics...

Evolutions are a way to balance bad Pokémon. In older gens this was necessary, for example in 1st gen, Pokémon like Seadra and Onix were quite bad, so they needed evolutions. Prior to 4th gen there were a lot of Pokémon like Tangela and Lickitung which were fairly useless, and got new evos.

But 4th gen was an interesting one because the whole theme of the series was evolution (Professor Rowan being an evolution specialist) and there were more than 10 new evolutions introduced. Technically, anything with a BST of 500 or less which hasn't yet evolved twice can get new evos.

As for Eevee, they need a new method of evolution for a new stage. Maybe a new item as well.

Click to expand...

Why does GameFreak limit Pokémon to only two evolutions? I mean, it does make sense that some people wouldn't find themselves able to keep track of more than that, but evolution trees could do some cool things if this limitation were removed. They could split more than two times (although I don't think any splits have affected any evolutionary tree more than once; it would be cool to see this happen,) and they could also connect similar evolutionary trees via shared pre-evolutions that aren't currently possible due to this limitation (most of the electric rodents could get share a prevo even with the limitation in place, I think, and that might foreshadow the limitation's removal.)

Because you're now changing how evolution has worked for five generations of games. Splitting things just for the sake of doing it isn't going to add anything to the games except unneeded complexity that is going to confuse people. Just because people think things looks similar doesn't mean they're related, and going back to change them for fan service is just a silly thing to do. If they meant for similar things to be related than they would be.

As far as other evolutions go, I'd love to see one given to the Clefairy and Jigglypuff lines. They definitely aren't needed and are extremely unlikely since they evolve from a stone, but I'd just like to see some more of them.

Sabrewulf238 said:

Yes Lumineon should get an evo, everybody always seems to forget Lumineon.

I was thinking it would be interesting if Phione got an evo, unrelated to Manaphy.

Click to expand...

Speaking of Manaphy and Phione, I think that the reason that breeding a female Manaphy gives you a Phione egg is because the evolution linking them hasn't been introduced. If it were, though, then it could inspire a split in the evolutionary line that currently contains these two. The only problem with that is that Manaphy is supposed to be some sort of event Pokémon, right? But then, it doesn't seem very legendary, so maybe something of the above sort would work out. Could the dilemma be solved by only allowing Phione to evolve either with or in a specific item or area only available via special distribution?

Musica said:

How about a Latios and Latias baby? :D Like a Phione from Manaphy.

Click to expand...

Suicune™ said:

I'm surprised Jynx didn't get an evolution, Magmar, Electabuzz, Togetic, Rhyhorn & Tangela all got them and they have very similar characteristics. I think Jynx is fine as it is but I would have imagined an evolution if all of those got one.

Click to expand...

Now that you guys mention Togepi's evolutionary line, it reminds that I've always wondered why the Latis resemble it so strikingly. Maybe we could extend the mechanism of which I thought earlier onto it and then add a gender-based evolution split to the evolutionary tree on top of that…but it probably won't ever happen, especially since legendaries are supposed to stand alone, evolutionarily speaking.

CrystalRose said:

I'd like to see a Farfetch'd evolution... he pretty much got left behind. ;-;

Click to expand...

…or Farfetch'd could somehow gain a link to Delibird, like I mentioned before? I mean it: they're both meals on wings, the poor things!

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

I also agree, I wanted Masqerain to be Water/Bug back in Gen III. I was disappointed to see my masqurain not be Water/Bug any longer :(.
Oh and they should also give an alternate to Nincada (not countring Shedinja) that's Bug/Ground still. And while they're at it give Sheinja an evolution...one in which it get's 500 hp which would blow everyone away!

Click to expand...

But…Shedinja's not really alive, is he? He's…just a shell, right?

Forever said:

I kind of doubt that. :( While both are very cute and such, I think they just fit right with the two evolutions and if they were changed, I'm not sure I'd prefer the alternates given that the originals fit SO NICELY. :(

Click to expand...

Maybe they could share a pre-evolution?

Forever said:

I think Bellsprout line is long gone, imo. Victreebel is great as it is and a second evolution just seems pointless because Weepinbel doesn't really look like it can go any other way.

Click to expand...

As has been said I don't think Gloom evolving into Bellossom is that obvious. If I didn't know they were related I doubt I would make the connection myself.

It wouldn't be the first time a pokemon evolved into something that looked nothing like it's previous forms.

Clefairy and Jigglypuff could get alternate evolutions since they are already the second stage of their lines.

Swoobat already evolves by happiness so if she evolves again it'll be by stone (Togetic to Togekiss) or by item.

Manaphy is Genderless. Phione is supposed to be a seperate species through combining Ditto's DNA with Manaphy's. Since Phione is considered a Legendary Pokemon by Gamefreak and TPC, she won't be getting an evolution.

I still doubt Pokemon that evolve by Stone will evolve further. So very little to no chance of Clefable evolving further not to mention she's already the third form in an evolution.

Do you think Dugtrio should get an evolution? I just checked and it has a base stat total of 405. Looks like it could do with a boost.

I would hope the evolution keeps the same face though.

Sabrewulf238 said:

Do you think Dugtrio should get an evolution? I just checked and it has a base stat total of 405. Looks like it could do with a boost.

I would hope the evolution keeps the same face though.

Click to expand...

Maybe, but how can that work? Having a pokemon with 6 different heads?