Challenge Ideas & Discussion

I certainly didn't mean to sound discouraging when I said that. Nor do I think that Pokemon assigned by another challenger in general are any harder/easier than those that you select your own team. I understand that the only person who gets to approve challenges is you.

I guess what I was trying to say was that I'm sorta sick of challenges that just groups the Pokemon together, and then you pick a group. Monotype, Color, Special Pairs, Beginning letter, Anime, that's all they do. You pick a group, and then you pick 3-6 from that group. While they are all different, and range in difficulty, they're all so similar.

Challenges like the Nuzlocke/Solo/Favorite/Scramble are more fun (in my opinion) because they're all so different from each other. In the Nuzlocke, you can just have bad luck and be screwed over if you find yet another pidgey as your first Pokemon on a route or if one of your hard trained Pokemon faints to an unlucky Critical Hit. In the solo you only get one single Pokemon to use, but it can be anyone you want. The favorite can screw you over if you like a Pokemon like Caterpie and it unluckily gets picked. In the scramble, you are in no control of what your team looks like. I like these challenges so much because there is so much variety in them. I guess in my frustration of another game of categories, I misspoke. I apologize.

Sydian said:

Wait, I'm sorry, what? When did we say we wanted to stay away from challenges that you get to choose your team? Guys, no offense, but when you say things like that, it's really discouraging. We don't need every challenge to be strikingly hard. We don't need every challenge to have Pokemon assigned by another challenger. Like I said before, we're doing a good job of keeping a good variety of difficulty with the challenges we have. Let's not take that away, please. Just because that challenge seems easy doesn't mean you have to make it easy. Just because someone might hypothetically choose that certain team if they choose Humanshape as an Egg Group doesn't mean everyone that participates in the challenge will choose an team like that.

Sorry, I just felt like that was a little rude to say we're steering clear of those types of challenges, because we're not. Just because a challenge doesn't seem "challenging" to some doesn't mean it's not to others. Please keep that in mind, and realize that you guys aren't the ones approving the challenges. I am.

/a bit irked today, sorry

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Sorry you're irked today Sydian.

No disrespect to you, but myrrhman does have a point in regard to the constant groupings, classifications, and exclusions (like this isn't already shoved down our throats by the games themselves) that is present in a lot of challenges of late. How many Pokemon are there now? 649? There is so much potential that can be done as far as changing the way the games are played beyond egg groups, monotypes, etc. That's one of the reasons people love the games because the games set themselves as blank slates that make possibilities endless. Why limit ourselves to a few types of challenges simply because they'll get the most feedback when there can be many things possible that people haven't even thought of -or have thought of, but are too timid to voice for fear of it being too different to be noticed?

Sooyun said:

Sorry you're irked today Sydian.

No disrespect to you, but myrrhman does have a point in regard to the constant groupings, classifications, and exclusions (like this isn't already shoved down our throats by the games themselves) that is present in a lot of challenges of late. How many Pokemon are there now? 649? There is so much potential that can be done as far as changing the way the games are played beyond egg groups, monotypes, etc. That's one of the reasons people love the games because the games set themselves as blank slates that make possibilities endless. Why limit ourselves to a few types of challenges simply because they'll get the most feedback when there can be many things possible that people haven't even thought of -or have thought of, but are too timid to voice for fear of it being too different to be noticed?

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I think you have it wrong. The problem isn't that people are scared that challenges will be too different, the problem is that they don't know how similar they are to other challenges. The invention of Monotype Challenges was a great thing. I believe it was the spark that led to there even being a Challenge section, because the challenge was so popular that people started trying to think of other things like it. It is great because there are some easy types and some hard types, and some easy gens and some hard gens. But the main thing is that it was the first of its kind. Because it is so popular, unfortunately all the other challenges similar to it (as discussed in above post) are just going to be compared to it, and unfortunately, not many, if any, of them will be seen as on par with the monotype challenge for it to really get off the ground.

What about "The Ugliest Pokèmon Challenge"?

Basically, you choose from one to six of the ugliest Pokèmon ever, standing to your own tastes.
Then, you choose a game where these Pokèmon are findable or hackable, and use it on that game.

And, I agree to InfernoRogue's Lyrics Challenge, it would be very funny! =D

I agree to the lyrics challenge

Agreed to the Lyrics challenge, it lets you be creative.

And why don't we do something similar to the New year's egg swap, where you have 3 eggs and you are required to swap those slots at least 3 times before you can start? Or something like that.

It'd be cool.

I like the lyrics challenge.
As for the ugly challenge, could we do something random and rule out Purugly, so that people have to actually think about your team.
Egg Swap: I like it, as long as there are some ground rules. Since they're eggs, I know I'm going to breed on some good egg moves. I personally think everyone should do the same. Which would mean no Magikarp/Caterpie/etc. eggs. What do you guys think?

Maybe a nature challenge that will go like this.

You choose a nature, let's say Adamant
You pick your starter and check its nature
is it Adamant? You can use it. Is it another nature? You can use it until you find a pokémon of the right nature
After you have your starter and get your pokébals you may catch a pokémon. If it's the right nature you can have it. Otherwise you may never catch that pokémon again. Get it?

What do you think of that? You maybe can choose two natures to make it less hard if you want.

But Syd, that's what keeps it fun. Some people will be like "OMG HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT SEED BBY IS UGLY" but you know that someone will...

And Karpman can confirm this, I absolutely hate trading. But I'd do it for the Egg Challenge.

I came up with the idea for a challenge, where you set up a small group and hold a "mini-draft" on MSN/AIM.
Basically you would draft evolution lines and playthrough the game. If a Pokemon faints, than it's permaboxed, although you
can catch/trade as many members of the evo lines you drafted as you want.
EDIT: Oh yes, Myrrh detests trading, he doesn't even want to use a Kingdra for his HG Water Monotype.

Karpman said:

EDIT: Oh yes, Myrrh detests trading, he doesn't even want to use a Kingdra for his HG Water Monotype.

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This is why emulators = win. Pokesav FTW! I would wait until I actually get the Dragon Scale though lol (semi-legit?)

Karpman said:

I came up with the idea for a challenge, where you set up a small group and hold a "mini-draft" on MSN/AIM.
Basically you would draft evolution lines and playthrough the game. If a Pokemon faints, than it's permaboxed, although you
can catch/trade as many members of the evo lines you drafted as you want.
EDIT: Oh yes, Myrrh detests trading, he doesn't even want to use a Kingdra for his HG Water Monotype.

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Your cool idea gave me a cool idea! Pokecommunity should hold a cup of sorts. We have a signup time. Everyone who wants to participate in the cup signs up. Then, two teams are made, with an equal balance of experienced people, new people, and people in between. Then, we'll have two different drafts, one for the experienced people and one for the new people (so that there will be more Pokemon available). We'll set some rules like total number of rounds, maybe a "salary cap", etc. Then, we will publish another signup sheet. It will have some Nuzlockes, Monotypes, Solos, speed runs, etc. People on your team gather and sign up for slots in the challenges. We'll discuss beforehand if we want just one challenge per person, or if we want two, etc. People gather and discuss because some people won't have a strong team for Monotypes, but have one really strong solo runner. They'll sign up for a solo challenge most likely. You can only use your own Pokemon, not your teammates. After you have everyone on your team signed up, the other team's lineup would be revealed. Then you start playing your assigned challenge, and fastest completion (by in game time) of the challenge wins! There will be like a one month period to finish or else you forfeit and the other team wins. Whichever team gets the most points by the end of the month wins!

I like and (most probably) will participate in the following :

Lyrics Challenge (expect me spamming Eminem and Green Day a lot, lol n_n)
Ugliest Pokemon (maybe even use something like Feebas to make it more of a challenge... an of course, a ton of BW Pokemon)
Myrrh's idea is God, and we can implement it as a Challenge Get-Together... Anyone ? (:

myrrhman said:

Your cool idea gave me a cool idea! Pokecommunity should hold a cup of sorts. We have a signup time. Everyone who wants to participate in the cup signs up. Then, two teams are made, with an equal balance of experienced people, new people, and people in between. Then, we'll have two different drafts, one for the experienced people and one for the new people (so that there will be more Pokemon available). We'll set some rules like total number of rounds, maybe a "salary cap", etc. Then, we will publish another signup sheet. It will have some Nuzlockes, Monotypes, Solos, speed runs, etc. People on your team gather and sign up for slots in the challenges. We'll discuss beforehand if we want just one challenge per person, or if we want two, etc. People gather and discuss because some people won't have a strong team for Monotypes, but have one really strong solo runner. They'll sign up for a solo challenge most likely. You can only use your own Pokemon, not your teammates. After you have everyone on your team signed up, the other team's lineup would be revealed. Then you start playing your assigned challenge, and fastest completion (by in game time) of the challenge wins! There will be like a one month period to finish or else you forfeit and the other team wins. Whichever team gets the most points by the end of the month wins!

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Would definitely join this challenge if solo running was put into it :D