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Hmm. I watched (what I can only assume is) all of arc 1, but I haven't seen any of the other arcs, nor have I read any of the novel thingies. I'm not that big of a watcher of Animé, though it is enjoyable when I do watch it. Still, don't think I'll be watching the other ones - especially considering what I've heard of arc 2... Ethics Code ON, thanks very much :p
And yeah, this whole kind of thing is pretty uncomfortable, which may sound unexpected coming from a teenage male. I'm not that way inclined, anyhow. I don't think either myself nor Turnip feel the need for any kind of intimate interaction - though Turnip actually has something of a reason for it, which I may or may not divulge.
I think the SAO anime is overrated and I didn't even completely like the first arc (KiritoxAsuna was cute at first but got overly irritating and cringey after a while, I preferred badass Kirito :c) and less said about the Alfheim arc, the better. I still however enjoyed watching it (...to an extent) and just love the idea in general, and the world is interesting as well. I still do however plan to read the light novels whenever I can be bothered to find good translations in the internet.
Are there any plans for any other arcs to be covered by the anime? Seeing as how the first two blew up in terms of popularity I would of assumed whoever made them would be desperate to make more episodes, unless that's not how anime producers think? :s
I go with the general idea thing, too. For me, I could probably give or take with characters - it's the world that was phenomenal. Certainly appealed to me as a gamer, anyway. I mostly ignore shipping, I guess. Dammit... struggling to come up with a boat pun, here.
I dunno, I didn't really like Kirito. Like Turnip, my favorite thing about SAO was the world, and I did like Kirito for a while (pretty much up until the murder mystery), but then he just turned into the "OP quiet dark-haired loner character" that I don't particularly like. In the anime he's too badass and too inhuman, and its because you read from Kirito's perspective that things make sense.
In fact, Kirito is like the white-haired Dante. The problem is, he doesn't follow the magnificent b@$t@ard trope. With Dante, he's meant to be comical and overpowered, it works. With Kirito, however, you're not really given any real reason to cheer for him after the sixth episode. The moment he meets Asuna, the characters take a backseat to romance. He has basically no apparent flaws, and worst of all, he can break paralysis with love. All of these things really had me cheering for Kayaba, because while Kirito experienced the pain of loss, he rarely ever tasted defeat or felt the pain of weakness. He just fought and pulled out newer powers and unparalleled strength, leaving others in awe of him while they themselves took a backseat (the best example of this is the episode where the Dual Swords are introduced). He's just too powerful for the story's own good and has no real foil to set him off.
...Well, that's the reviewer in me coming out, but that's largely why I like SAO for SAO rather than the cast or Alfheim. For the most part.
I dunno, I didn't really like Kirito. Like Turnip, my favorite thing about SAO was the world, and I did like Kirito for a while (pretty much up until the murder mystery), but then he just turned into the "OP quiet dark-haired loner character" that I don't particularly like. In the anime he's too badass and too inhuman, and its because you read from Kirito's perspective that things make sense.
In fact, Kirito is like the white-haired Dante. The problem is, he doesn't follow the magnificent b@$t@ard trope. With Dante, he's meant to be comical and overpowered, it works. With Kirito, however, you're not really given any real reason to cheer for him after the sixth episode. The moment he meets Asuna, the characters take a backseat to romance. He has basically no apparent flaws, and worst of all, he can break paralysis with love. All of these things really had me cheering for Kayaba, because while Kirito experienced the pain of loss, he rarely ever tasted defeat or felt the pain of weakness. He just fought and pulled out newer powers and unparalleled strength, leaving others in awe of him while they themselves took a backseat (the best example of this is the episode where the Dual Swords are introduced). He's just too powerful for the story's own good and has no real foil to set him off.
...Well, that's the reviewer in me coming out, but that's largely why I like SAO for SAO rather than the cast or Alfheim. For the most part.
Think you could find and paste the "Ethics Code" piece of novel here? I'm curious, because I don't remember them even mentioning it in the anime, at least not as an "Ethics Code". I'd be curious how that works exactly, especially when they can turn it off and on like that.
Additionally. I was kinda annoyed at just how much of a girl-trail he had following him. The whole badarse thing doesn't work as well on a 14/15/16 year old. It just... Doesn't.
And... Seriously, why all of the girls!? WHY ALL OF THE FANSERVICE!? WHY THE INCEST PLOT!?!?!? Too much. With Lisbeth, that one kind of made sense at least. It seemed like the whole Asuna-Kirito relationship happened far too quickly in the anime (I hope that's not the case in the books). Then there's Leafa (I'm not sure what was more awkward, the single tentacle scene, or the many scenes of incest-plot throughout the entire second arc!) and then there were those two that were both trying to cling to him in ALO.
So the manga does have a 16.5 chapter (of sorts), but the LN originally had one as well, and...
...Just...wow. I mean, WOW. I mean wow so much that I think it should never be mentioned in the thread again, because it's quite...detailed. It turned what was a generally mild experience into something that shoots the age rating off the charts. The thing is, after a little research I found out that it's not actually canon (as it's not an official release). It was just a piece of work that Reki made after finishing SAO just because he could.
...In regards to Wolf's question, here it is. You'll remember some of this scene from the anime:
Spoiler:
"K-Kirito-kun, take your clothes off too…. It's em, embarrassing for me to be like this by
myself."
After hearing that, I finally realized the meaning behind Asuna's actions.
In other words, she took what I said —that I wanted to spend the night with her, in a deeper
sense than what I meant.
As soon as I understood that, I also fell into an endlessly deep panic. As a result, I committed
the worst mistake in my whole life up until now.
"Err…no, you see, I just thought...that it would be good, if we stayed to– together in a room
tonight…"
"Eh…?"
As I responded stupidly with my honest thoughts, it was Asuna who froze with her mouth
wide open this time. Then, an expression of intense anger and embarrassment spread across
her face.
"You…you..."
Her clenched right fist revealed an almost visible killing intent.
"Idiot—!!"
Asuna's fist, which had accelerated to a speed that utilized all of her dexterity stats, was
stopped just barely before striking my face by the Crime Prevention Code and released a loud
noise and a spray of purple sparks instead.
"A-Ahh—! Wait!! I'm sorry, I'm sorry! Forget what I said!"
I tried to explain while frantically waving my hands about to Asuna, who was about to throw
her second punch without paying any attention to me. "I'm sorry, I was wrong!! Bu… but, anyway, can you…like…actually d-do it…? In SAO…?"
Asuna dropped her attacking stance and was a bit taken aback, although still furious. Then
she asked:
"You, you mean you don't know…?"
"No, I don't…"
Then, Asuna's expression changed suddenly from one of anger to one of embarrassment,
before she explained in a small voice:
"…so…in the options menu, all the way on the bottom…there's an option called «Ethic Code
Off»."
It was the first time I had ever heard of such a thing. I'm sure this wasn't available during the
beta test, nor was it mentioned in the manual. To think that this was another price that I had
to pay for playing as a solo player and not having any interest except fighting.
The part about the Ethic Code specifically is in Bold.
Really, all the Ethic Code does is allow for clothes to be taken off completely, it doesn't actually add any functionality.
So the manga does have a 16.5 chapter (of sorts), but the LN originally had one as well, and...
...Just...wow. I mean, WOW. I mean wow so much that I think it should never be mentioned in the thread again, because it's quite...detailed. It turned what was a generally mild experience into something that shoots the age rating off the charts. The thing is, after a little research I found out that it's not actually canon (as it's not an official release). It was just a piece of work that Reki made after finishing SAO just because he could.
...In regards to Wolf's question, here it is. You'll remember some of this scene from the anime:
Spoiler:
"K-Kirito-kun, take your clothes off too…. It's em, embarrassing for me to be like this by
myself."
After hearing that, I finally realized the meaning behind Asuna's actions.
In other words, she took what I said —that I wanted to spend the night with her, in a deeper
sense than what I meant.
As soon as I understood that, I also fell into an endlessly deep panic. As a result, I committed
the worst mistake in my whole life up until now.
"Err…no, you see, I just thought...that it would be good, if we stayed to– together in a room
tonight…"
"Eh…?"
As I responded stupidly with my honest thoughts, it was Asuna who froze with her mouth
wide open this time. Then, an expression of intense anger and embarrassment spread across
her face.
"You…you..."
Her clenched right fist revealed an almost visible killing intent.
"Idiot—!!"
Asuna's fist, which had accelerated to a speed that utilized all of her dexterity stats, was
stopped just barely before striking my face by the Crime Prevention Code and released a loud
noise and a spray of purple sparks instead.
"A-Ahh—! Wait!! I'm sorry, I'm sorry! Forget what I said!"
I tried to explain while frantically waving my hands about to Asuna, who was about to throw
her second punch without paying any attention to me. "I'm sorry, I was wrong!! Bu… but, anyway, can you…like…actually d-do it…? In SAO…?"
Asuna dropped her attacking stance and was a bit taken aback, although still furious. Then
she asked:
"You, you mean you don't know…?"
"No, I don't…"
Then, Asuna's expression changed suddenly from one of anger to one of embarrassment,
before she explained in a small voice:
"…so…in the options menu, all the way on the bottom…there's an option called «Ethic Code
Off»."
It was the first time I had ever heard of such a thing. I'm sure this wasn't available during the
beta test, nor was it mentioned in the manual. To think that this was another price that I had
to pay for playing as a solo player and not having any interest except fighting.
The part about the Ethic Code specifically is in Bold.
Really, all the Ethic Code does is allow for clothes to be taken off completely, it doesn't actually add any functionality.
tl:dr; The manga 16.5 is highly inappropriate and it's best everyone avoid it NOW.
Kinda odd that it actually "happens" even though they're fairly young, though if I recall the legal age in Japan is fairly young, from an American standpoint anyway.
Off the topic of horrible topics, is there a release date yet for the translated novels?
I-I mean...! Ofcourse I'm right! Pfft! Sarcasm, please don't take this line serious.
Ethic code off is also an option in the RP but like the rules says: Keep bed-moments behind the scenes. I don't want to read how some of you are having intimate moments >-> seriously...
I'm blaming Wolfy and Machomuu for making this RP seem perverted. c: muwahaha
Also, about Kirito...
I don't really hate him but I dislike how he seems to be almost cheating on Asuna while she was captured. I don't like guys who flirt with other girls while having a girlfriend .__. I'm not saying that it was all his fault but to me it seems like that.
Okay... I'm gonna be honest here. I didn't like the second arc mostly because of the same reasons you all have. That's why I hope that the third and fourth arc will be better. please don't dissapoint me Reki Kawahara...
Kind of a fitting reason, considering that I seem to remember a recurring theme in Fullmetal Alchemist where "because I can" was all of the justification for murder, torture and general hate crime. At least, I think it was FMA... Eh. Kind of puts it into perspective, anyhow :p just because you can do something, it really doesn't mean you should. Admittedly, though, Barry the Chopper was kind of awesome.
"Well, it can't be that bad, I mean I've never heard of anything that explicit in SAO anywhere so- oh, oh... crap that's... oh..."
I couldn't after just seeing the front cover of that... just wow. Why hadn't I heard of this before? I would of thought this would of been waaaay more controversial but erm... ok.
Ahem. Enough of that now. I guess we can enter floor two now so I'll be posting today in that regard. Stay tuned.
Hmm. I believe that descalation should be in order, because that's a word. I can only assume that the order for the Nirvana-standoff group is Machomuu - Heretostay - Colony - DuskLunacy - Me - SD.
So, I'm making my post, but I'd first like to know if the Silver Salmon (an aquatic wyvern) can be a quest-exclusive monster on the second floor. My post is partially dependent on that, as are Godot's floor 2 (mis)adventures.
