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View Poll Results: Darkrai or Mewtwo?
Mewtwo 32 54.24%
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Why on earth would you need Miracle Eye and waste a valuable turn when you could easily use Aura Sphere which is super effective? It would almost OHKO it as El Gofre already pointed out and it makes Mewtwo the clear winner in the fight.
Yeah I forgot... you're right but I don't know if someone has Aura Sphere in Mewtwo's moveset because as I said Dark advantage could be ended by Miracle Eye but you're right Aura Sphere is better way
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    Mewtwo, but I like both of them a lot.
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    Old June 10th, 2009 (11:31 AM).
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      Well Darkrai would win since Psychic moves
      are uneffective against against Dark types and
      Dark moves are strong against Psychic pokemon.
      Still, I would rather want Mewtwo to win only b.c
      I saw the first movie =)
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      Mewtwo, outruns and OHKOs with Aura Sphere, if Darkrai is a lead, and Mewtwo is a lead, then Darkrai could have a Focus Sash, survive, Dark Void, and then proceed to Nasty Plot and sweep.
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        Mewtwo wins. It has a whole lot to do with the fact that he is a first gen legendary. And they are the coolest.
        The fourth gen legendarys don't even look like anything realistic Darkrai looks like a dark wavy cloth with hands, as apposed to Mewtwo looking like a humanoid.
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          darkria

          Base HP.....Base Attack.............Base Defense....Base Sp. Attack.......Base Sp. Defense.. ..Base Speed
          70.................... 90....................... 90....................135 .................90......................125
          Max HP........Max Attack........Max Defense.........Max Sp. Attack...Max Sp. Defense...Max Speed
          344................279...................279......................369... ............... 279.................349


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          Base HP.......ase Attack......Base Defense .........Base Sp. Attack......Base Sp. Defense...Base Speed
          106...............110.....................90........................154.................90....................130
          Max HP......Max Attack.....Max Defense....Max Sp. Attack....Max Sp. Defense.....Max Speed
          416.....................319 .......279.....................407....................279.............. 359

          hope you can read that but stat wise mewtwo wins but darkria does have the type advantage from my point of view i say if they play thier card right this is a tied up match
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            Darkrai.

            Type- DARK(Dark pwns Psychic)

            Moves: Dark Void, Dream Eater, and if you had the Darkrai from the events Roar of Time, and Spacial Rend.
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            It would definitely be a close match, but I believe that Darkrai's type advantage would prevail over Mewtwo's superior stats.
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              Well it seems we are 50/50 now. I voted for Darkrai because of Dark void and if that gets in, like WolFLARE said. But anime wise i really don't know. I'd say it would be pretty even but i'd think Mewtwo would win.
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                darkrai
                a)its fastest dark type (besides weavil)
                b)mewtwo's psychic based moves arent effective
                c)darkrai is cooler
                as for anime, prob. mewtwo, cuz if a cresselia could pwn him, im sure as hell a mewtwo could pwn him
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                Well I have to say it can depend on the levels since no Aura Sphere until lvl 100
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                Darkrai wins with Psychic immunity + Dark Void + STAB / supereffective.
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                  anime wise

                  who ever is the good guy in the battle
                  which im guessing mewtwo would be
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                  Old June 13th, 2009 (10:17 PM). Edited June 13th, 2009 by Winson.
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                    I've been reading through the posts in this thread and many people thinks that Darkrai wins with Dark Void+Nightmare+Dark Pulse holding Focus Sash. But I can easily make Mewtwo win instead even if Darkrai have those moves and Focus Sash.

                    Lets say both of them have max stats, which makes Mewtwo faster... *Double-Slap those who thinks Darkrai is faster (Trivia: Double-Slap is a Pokemon move)*

                    MEWTWO
                    Move: Aura Sphere
                    Held Item: Chesto Berry

                    DARKRAI
                    Moves: Dark Void, Nightmare, Dark Pulse
                    Held Item: Focus Sash

                    MEWTWO WINS!!!
                    HAH! DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING DIDCHA?!

                    Anyways, as for in the anime, I go for Mewtwo because I've liked him since the first movie, he is somewhat of an anti-hero, the type of hero I like the most... And also, comparing their powers in both the movies, I'd say Mewtwo can destroy Darkrai til there's nothing left of him, along with the area they battled in.
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                      Mewtwo all the way baby. Darkrai couldn't touch him with a thousand foot pole.
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                        Regardless, he's still faster. I've just done some damage calcs, and mewtwo with a neutral nature and 0 SpAtt EVs will do a minimum of 74% to darkrai with aura sphere. Strap on a life orb and he does a minimum of 97%, a OHKO if darkrai experiences any level of entry hazard or weather damage at all. Of course that would never happen, as mewtwo will be almost always be found running max SpAtt and will KO darkrai several times over. Mewtwo's defences are also better than darkrais, and is able to switch in on a [email protected] spacial rend and in the best case scenario (For mewtwo, not darkrai), not even be 3HKO'd. From here does what we started discussing- outspeed and screw over with aura sphere.
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                        Mewtwo would also destroy Darkrai in the anime...shoot, nothing could beat Mewtwo in the anime. Plus, Mewtwo's just all around cooler (although it's not tough to be cooler than Darkrai--G4 legendaries are terrible).
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                          Mewtwo's psychic. Darkrais dark. Non of Mewtwos psychic attacks would work, and Darkrai would pwn with shadow ball.. Darkrai wins.
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                            Theoretically, Mewtwo would win based on the fact that it's faster and that 154 SpA > 70/90. It can probably OHKO without Specs.

                            Though Scarfrai might pose problems, you can also Scarf Mewtwo to deal with this and it'll still probably OHKO.

                            I'm too lazy to do the calculations lol.
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                              mewtwo is suppost to be a clone of mew, who has da dna of every pkmn, hence forth knowin all moves of every type like mew, this is wat i have been lead to believe in the 1st movie and it still hold strong today, except in the game r/b mewtwo didnt learn every move, it couldnt learn like 8 moes or so. if this is true by default mewtwo should win. i vote mewtwo
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                                isnt darkrai a ghost type to?
                                i mean it would be confusing but maybe metronome would work out good
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                                  Mewtwo is just amazing plus I think he is a stronger version of the strongest Pokemon (am I right?).

                                  So he definitely wins in this fight.
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                                    I would say that Darkrai would win because of its ability and it's moves Dream Eater, Dark Void, Nightmare, and Hypnosis.
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                                      Darkrai.

                                      Type- DARK(Dark pwns Psychic)

                                      Moves: Dark Void, Dream Eater, and if you had the Darkrai from the events Roar of Time, and Spacial Rend.
                                      Dark Void = Makes sense, 80% accurate sleep move.
                                      However, Why would you use Dream Eater? 1) Darkrai doesn't get any STAB from it what-so-ever, and 2) Mewtwo is resistant to Psychic moves anyway.
                                      Better off using STAB SE Dark Pulse instead

                                      (lol Icy Wind Darkrai w/ Focus Sash wins over Mewtwo)


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                                      darkrai
                                      a)its fastest dark type (besides weavil)
                                      b)mewtwo's psychic based moves arent effective
                                      c)darkrai is cooler
                                      as for anime, prob. mewtwo, cuz if a cresselia could pwn him, im sure as hell a mewtwo could pwn him
                                      a) Mewtwo is still faster
                                      b) Shadow Ball and Aura Sphere grant perfect coverage for Mewtwo, no need for it to hit those silly Psychics in the Uber tier with a STAB not very effective Psychic either.
                                      c) Darkrai looks like those dust bunnies behind my bed, apart from that they are a lot prettier and they doesn't look like they've been bled on.

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                                      Mewtwo's psychic. Darkrais dark. Non of Mewtwos psychic attacks would work, and Darkrai would pwn with shadow ball.. Darkrai wins.
                                      ^ Mewtwo no want Psychic attacks anyway, and why would Darkrai use a SE Shadow Ball when it has a SE Dark Pulse with STAB at hand? The only reason that I can imagine for using that is the 20% chance for a SDef drop..
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                                        Yes yes, I see all the people arguing Psychic immunity. But Most Mewtwo's are Spec'ed or Life orb or scarfed (takes that if Darkrai was scarfed out of the equation). Its Sp. Atk stat is insane. It has plenty of Hp and Defences. It Gains Aura Sphere (never miss, 90 base, Almost indeed a OHKO) and Focus Blast if Aura sphere wasn't enough. Mewtwo wins in Speed, and in Atk. It would especially win is it ran a sub/Calm mind set (takes out any form of Sleep caused by Darkrai), and he could even pull of a Sub-puncher (for all who don't know, that means Substitute into Focus punch) with its 110 base Atk (which I might add is not too shabby). Finally, Darkrai could only do Dark Void if and only if it got lucky with a Quick Claw (which are out lawed thanks to the Hax item clause) or with a Choice Scarf which would mean it would only use Dark void and eventually lose.
                                        Mewtwo wins.
                                        I rest my case.
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