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Old August 22nd, 2009 (6:49 AM). Edited August 28th, 2009 by Charaxes.
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    I get a break from traveling for today to watch this episode. The idiots at Cartoon Network decided to crop this episode, allegedly. But with new opening scenes from High Touch that make the opening more bearable we can all blame some executive on Cartoon Network cropping. Let's just hope for DVD releases are in the correct format as well as Blu-ray. Someday. So much for that HD channel CN since you don't air anything in HD these days. Why does this forum suck so much? I digress.

    Anyway, Our Heroes stumble upon a lonely Snover who they quickly befriend. Team Rocket spot this Snover and want to capture it for the berries (Snowballs) that grow from it. Will Our Heroes be able to protect it?

    This episode's plot is pretty damn boring.

    Edit: For the obvious reason of profanity. I understand your frustration, but "idiot" is a less debasing G-rated/multi-purpose term. Besides, the CN execs aren't worth the grief.

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    Old August 22nd, 2009 (7:08 AM).
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      Definitely the most memorable (scratch that, only memorable) part of this episode is Grotle. At least they did something right by giving him a CMOA, and keeping it.
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      Old August 22nd, 2009 (8:04 AM).
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        Definitely the most memorable (scratch that, only memorable) part of this episode is Grotle. At least they did something right by giving him a CMOA, and keeping it.
        Someone goes on tv tropes as well as I see. :D

        Yeah, Grotle's Rock Climb up a valley was actually really cool.
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        Old August 22nd, 2009 (8:22 AM).
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          It did cross my mind how he learned a HM move by assumed level-up, though I guess that's anime logic for ya... and yep, TV Tropes is awesome.
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          Old August 22nd, 2009 (10:32 AM). Edited August 22nd, 2009 by Blue_Drifblim.
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            I think it's really cool TPCI updated the opening with High Touch! scenes. I thought the episode was good, too. LOL at Dawn tripping... Grotle also had his fair share of awesomeness. Anyways, the music and sound quality has really been increased. It's definitely a lot clearer. The general picture quality is also better. TPCI used one of my favorite pieces when Grotle learned Rock Climb(It actually sounds like they remixed it), so that made me happy as well.

            Fun episode. :D
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              Just watched this on the 'Tube...YouTube, that is. Pretty good episode. But what I wanna know is, what da heck happened to all the snow??!! And speaking of snow, shouldn't snover's name be pronounced "snuvver?" :O
              Oh, well. Rating: 7/10. Would've been 8, but Snowveer's voice annoyed me. xP

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              I think it's really cool TPCI updated the opening with High Touch! scenes. I thought the episode was good, too. Anyways, the music and sound quality has really been increased. It's definitely a lot clearer.
              I liked that they updated the theme song with the scenes, but the pictures didn't really flow with the song. It was more like a fan's first attempt at a powerpoint AMV. :O
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              Old August 22nd, 2009 (11:06 AM).
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              But...why did they bother to change the opening video but show the episode in fullscreen? >_> What was the point? At least they switched it to High Touch! scenes, it at least looks a lot better now, even if the scene changes every 2 seconds. How they cut the scene with Ash, Dawn and Brock into 2 parts at the end just looks weird. Oh well, it's much better

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDCS82FPpMg "New" opening
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                Snover is a combination of 'snow' and 'rover', which would make the two words connect at the 'oh' sound. So it's pronounced Snow-vur. And I wasn't very pleased with the new openings either; it's nice they used High Touch scenes, and the deal at the beginning with the team view in different places was pretty good (and more J, of course), it didn't really fit very well at all.

                I never really liked that Team Galactic group shot, either.
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                Old August 22nd, 2009 (11:54 AM).
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                  No more annoying Pokemon cries? Awesome. The opening is already 10x times better.
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                  Old August 22nd, 2009 (2:05 PM).
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                      I think it's really cool TPCI updated the opening with High Touch! scenes. I thought the episode was good, too. LOL at Dawn tripping... Grotle also had his fair share of awesomeness. Anyways, the music and sound quality has really been increased. It's definitely a lot clearer. The general picture quality is also better. TPCI used one of my favorite pieces when Grotle learned Rock Climb(It actually sounds like they remixed it), so that made me happy as well.

                      Fun episode. :D
                      You. Were. Suppose. To. Start. This. Thread. Blue. _. Drifblim. Grr.

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                      Who thinks Grotle should have evolved in this one?
                      That would give Ash another Pokémon that Paul owns so I would say no. I think it would be boring to make Ash have the same ones his rival owns.
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                        You. Were. Suppose. To. Start. This. Thread. Blue. _. Drifblim. Grr.
                        ......Really? ......I was? ......Darn.

                        Well.... you posted last week's discussion thread that I thought Jorah was supposed to do, so I figured "Ahhh..... ok. I guess Jorah will do/does next week's, and I'll do the next one after that."

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                          ......Really? ......I was? ......Darn.

                          Well.... you posted last week's discussion thread that I thought Jorah was supposed to do, so I figured "Ahhh..... ok. I guess Jorah will do/does next week's, and I'll do the next one after that."

                          I guess one of these pictures is appropriate for me:


                          Jorah should have but she didn't.

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                          But...why did thry bothet to change the opening video but show the episode in fullscreen?
                          Cartoon Network could've cropped it themselves since there are screenshots on Pokémon.com that are in widescreen.

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                          I liked that they updated the theme song with the scenes, but the pictures didn't really fit with the song.
                          I thought that they did. Especially since they sped through the sequences, which is something that I liked.
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                          Old August 22nd, 2009 (6:11 PM).
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                            I thought that they did. Especially since they sped through the sequences, which is something that I liked.
                            The speeding looked good in some places, not-so-good in others. How many other people giggled, snickered, or otherwise found funny the line that played when Team Galactic was onscreen? I personally think they just needed a way to put in a group of characters that wasn't Ash and Company... too bad they ended up putting in four of the main villains in a very un-villainous slot. [giggles]
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                            Old August 23rd, 2009 (6:24 AM).
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                            - CROPPED D:
                            - Epic opening video change :D Bye, bye AMV opening (well, this one isn't *as* bad, plus they cut the Pokemon voices at the end) but it's like they messed up the ending by chopping the Ash, Dawn and Brock part into 2
                            - Just realised the Galactic Battles logo goes over the bubble scene from High Touch
                            - Yuck, obviously cropped title screen with ugly dub title font and colours
                            - Ash walks so quickly...due to the cropping? And then the video being made widescreen again
                            - Yuck, horrible voice for Snover, seriously, wtf. Reminds me oddly of its game cry, though
                            - I love the long version of the Sinnoh motto theme. Why won't they release it on CD D:
                            - Ash's face when he's eating XD
                            - Epic TPCI music when Grotle's using Rock Climb
                            - Hahaha, Brock's dance

                            Music kept: (8)

                            At the start
                            Ash training Chimchar and Grotle (from the 1st movie ~)
                            Ash, Brock and Dawn fall asleep
                            Team Rocket's Hoenn Secret Strategy Theme
                            Sinnoh Team Rocket Motto Theme
                            RBY Wild Pokemon Battle
                            Sinnoh Team Rocket Motto Theme Remix
                            Satoshi's Battle Decision (I love that theme)

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                            I thought that they did. Especially since they sped through the sequences, which is something that I liked.
                            Looked pretty weird in some places, like Paul and Ash getting their heads cut off, but most of all, the side of May's head getting cut off which was really noticeable :/ They could have just sped up the clip rather than cut it in awkward places

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                            The speeding looked good in some places, not-so-good in others. How many other people giggled, snickered, or otherwise found funny the line that played when Team Galactic was onscreen? I personally think they just needed a way to put in a group of characters that wasn't Ash and Company... too bad they ended up putting in four of the main villains in a very un-villainous slot. [giggles]
                            Yeah, that part was really funny XD "We're friends for life" XD They also put Team Galactic in an odd part in the old opening, "but deep inside, you know you're strong" XD

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                            ......Really? ......I was? ......Darn.

                            Well.... you posted last week's discussion thread that I thought Jorah was supposed to do, so I figured "Ahhh..... ok. I guess Jorah will do/does next week's, and I'll do the next one after that."

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                            I have no idea who was supposed to do this thread, I can't remember
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                              It's a more generic cheery 'The power is YOURS!' opening, though, so I don't think there was a place they could put Team Galactic and not make them look funny. Though the old one wasn't too bad.
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                              I just watched it. It was really good.
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                                  I have no idea who was supposed to do this thread, I can't remember
                                  This is why Mods should do Episode Discussions, only, but it happens. I'm back for the next two weeks, so I'll cover the 8/29 episode (if there is one), and make it easier.

                                  Anyway, Dogasu did the comparison, which should clarify any issues you have on the HD transition.

                                  Link: http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/diamond_pearl/ep121.html

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                                    Actually, I was joking when I said that, to go with the picture XD
                                    I hate you, text. I hate you so much. Shakes fist. Okay, ignore the Mod's moment of seriousness, there.

                                    You all also should have said, "brain has performed an illegal operation and must shut down."
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                                      episode was entertaining at best. Grotle, leaping left and right and saving the day was great.
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