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Old February 5th, 2010 (9:11 PM).
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    The goal of my 'bulky' battle team is to annoy my opponents to an extreme extent in which they would be tempted to surrender or suffer from being unable to last long,

    I am trying to achieve this by using Pokemon with good def/sp def and buffing moves along with curse and baton passing.

    This goes against all the rules of making a team because I want it to be unpredictable, so please help to improve it in any way possible.

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    Hyper Cutter
    252Hp/60Spe/196SpD
    Timid
    -Baton Pass
    -Roost
    -Swords Dance
    -Taunt


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    Thick Fat
    168Hp/120Def/220SpD
    Careful
    -Crunch
    -Curse
    -Rest
    -Return


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    Torrent
    252Hp/40Def/216SpD
    Careful
    -Curse
    -Earthquake
    -Rest
    -Stone Edge


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    Pressure
    252Hp/28Atk/228Def
    Impish
    -Fire Punch
    -Pain Split
    -Thunder Punch
    -Will 'O' Wisp


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    Synchronize
    252Hp/200Atk/56SpD
    Sassy
    -Curse
    -Payback
    -Protect
    -Wish


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    Water Absorb
    128Hp/252Def/128Spe
    Calm
    -Aqua Ring
    -Aqua Tail
    -Baton Pass
    -Substitute


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    Old February 6th, 2010 (7:48 AM).
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    I would replace it with a RestTalk Rotom-A, one of Starmies and Scizor's best counters.
    Starmie owns Rotom-A. Surf 2HKO's.

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    I would drop Sucknior for something better, like, RestTalk Heatran, because it can switch in on Ape and usually absorb its attacks fairly well, and it is a great counter for Scizor.
    WHAT.THE.HELL. There is a little amazing move that all apes run, called Close Combat which kinda you know, rips Heatran a new one. :/

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    Old February 6th, 2010 (8:46 AM).
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      Yea, infernape will destroy you. And also, it is really hard to be a good stall team when toxic spikes especially, as well as SR and spikes hits everything on your team bar gliscor (which cant even attack) And you have no way of removing them. Anybody with a phazer like skarmory or hippowdon will handle you with ease.

      Tentacruel can counter almost all infernape and remove field hazards. Mix tyranitar can handle skarmory and hippowdon, although its not really a stall. But you have seriously no answer to a skarmory ruining your plan.
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      Old February 6th, 2010 (10:58 AM).
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      Water Absorb
      128Hp/252Def/128Spe
      Calm
      -Aqua Ring
      -Aqua Tail
      -Baton Pass
      -Substitute



      I would replace Vaporeon with a better one wih more hp, the defence is good but doesnt work if the HP is low
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      Old February 6th, 2010 (11:18 AM). Edited February 6th, 2010 by wolf.
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      Originally Posted by AQUILINUS View Post
      The goal of my 'bulky' battle team is to annoy my opponents to an extreme extent in which they would be tempted to surrender or suffer from being unable to last long,

      I am trying to achieve this by using Pokemon with good def/sp def and buffing moves along with curse and baton passing.

      This goes against all the rules of making a team because I want it to be unpredictable, so please help to improve it in any way possible.

      [email protected] berry
      Hyper Cutter
      252Hp/220Spe/36 Def OR SpD if you choose to run dual screens with this
      Timid
      -Baton Pass
      -Roost
      -Swords Dance
      -Taunt

      Taunt leads shut you down basically, if you use this I would use Dual Screen Azelf as the lead, then switch to Gliscor to set up. First off, I don't know why you're using Sp.Def EVs since Gliscor has awful special defenses, and it lacks a good amount of resistances in that spectrum. Gliscor does a lot better as a physical wall as it can utilize its Fighting resist, etc. 220 Speed to outrun all variants of Lucario and enemy Gliscor, but you can take away some Speed if you're not scared of Ice Punch Lucario.

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      Thick Fat
      168Hp/120Def/220SpD
      Careful
      -Crunch / Fire Punch / Earthquake
      -Curse
      -Rest
      -Return / Body Slam

      Looks good, and suggested some options to consider (Fire Punch for Scizor, Skarm, Zong, and Steels, while EQ is for TTar, Heatran, etc, and lastly Body Slam for the paralysis chance that's always helpful).

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      Torrent
      252Hp/40Def/216SpD
      Careful
      -Curse
      -Earthquake
      -Rest
      -Stone Edge

      I guess.

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      Pressure
      252Hp/28Atk/228Def
      Impish
      -Fire Punch
      -Pain Split
      -Thunder Punch
      -Will 'O' Wisp

      Honestly Rotom-A outclasses this completely:

      Rotom-A @ Leftovers
      Ability: Levitate
      EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 Speed
      Nature: Bold
      - Discharge / Thunderbolt
      - Will-O-Wisp
      - Pain Split / Rest
      - <Signature move like Overheat or Leaf Storm> / Substitute / Sleep Talk

      Standard set, EVs are to outrun and burn SD Scizor before it deals any massive damage to you. Discharge is for the paralysis chance (which is always helpful for Heatran switches), while Thunderbolt for higher power. Pain Split for recovery, and gives you a free moveslot for a signature move depending on what forme you chose to use. Rest-talk are options since Pain Split isn't the most reliable form of recovery. Substitute is an option to use alongside Pain Split as they make a really annoying combo.

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      Synchronize
      252Hp/4Atk/252SpD
      Sassy
      -Curse
      -Payback
      -Protect
      -Wish

      I would run more Sp.Def EVs to help with strong special attacks, and Curse boosts your Atk anyway.

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      Water Absorb
      252Hp/252Def/4Spe
      Calm
      -Aqua Ring / Wish
      -Surf
      -Baton Pass
      -Substitute

      Looks fine I guess, but Vappy's Atk is incredibly low, where as it has above average Sp.Atk so Surf would be a better option here so you aren't set up fodder for everything. Also, those Speed EVs are used for BP teams that plan on passing +2 Speed to Vappy, so use max HP to help lower damage from stuff like Gyara. You can run 8 more Speed EVs to outrun CB Scizor. Wish is an option to use.

      Please do help, THANK YOU!!!
      Comments in bold ↑, might come back to help with other things if I'm not too busy.
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      Old February 6th, 2010 (4:28 PM).
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