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Old February 14th, 2011 (10:10 PM). Edited February 14th, 2011 by Sandbox Kid.
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    okay guys, this is what i have so far. please feel free to give feedback and positive criticism.

    Sandbox Team
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    1. Tyranitar @ Leftovers / ??? (maybe banded?)
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Nature: Adamant
    -Substitute
    -Focus Punch
    -Crunch
    -Thunder Bolt

    2. Either a Toxic Stall Shuckle or Jirachi
    Shuckle @ Leftovers
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd
    Nature: Impish
    -Toxic
    -Encore
    -Rest
    -Knock Off / Protect
    *OR*
    Jirachi @ ???
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Nature: ???
    -Calm Mind
    -Substitute
    -Flamethrower
    -Physic

    3. Rhyperior @ Leftovers / ???
    EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 16 SpD / 168 Spe
    Nature: Adamant
    -Substitute
    -Swords Dance / Megahorn
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake

    4. Skarmory @ Shed Shell / Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spd
    Nature: Careful / Impish
    -Spikes / Stealth Rock
    -Whirlwind
    -Roost
    -Brave Bird

    5. Swampert @ Leftovers / ???
    EVs: 248 HP / 212 Def / 48 SpD
    Nature: Relaxed
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Beam / Blizzard
    -Roar / Protect / Surf

    6. Torterra @ ???
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 Spe
    Nature: ???
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake
    -Leech Seed
    -Roar
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    As you can see, It still needs a lot of work, and lots of help. But any input given is much appreciated! Thanks guys
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    Old February 14th, 2011 (10:58 PM).
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    okay guys, this is what i have so far. please feel free to give feedback and positive criticism.

    Sandbox Team
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    1. Tyranitar @ Leftovers / ??? (maybe banded?)
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Nature: Adamant
    -Substitute
    -Focus Punch
    -Crunch
    -Thunder Bolt
    Why Choice Band if it has Substitute? IMO, I'd replace that with Hippowdon so that you can get a Sandstorm going straight away:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Ice Fang
    -Slack Off
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/152 Def/104 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    2. Either a Toxic Stall Shuckle or Jirachi
    Shuckle @ Leftovers
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spd
    Nature: Impish
    -Toxic
    -Encore
    -Rest
    -Knock Off / Protect
    *OR*
    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    EVs: 164 HP/168 Atk/176 Spe
    Nature: Jolly
    -Substitute
    -Body Slam/Thunder Wave
    -Iron Head
    -Fire Punch
    I like to see Jirachi annoy oppoents with the infamous Thunder Wave + Iron Head + Serene Grace combo. Go with that instead of Shuckle.
    3. Rhyperior @ Leftovers / ???
    EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 16 SpD / 168 Spe
    Nature: Adamant
    -Substitute
    -Swords Dance / Megahorn
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake
    Even though Rhyperior has its merits, I don't think it's that good. I think Gliscor should be there if you want to break some stall:
    -Earthquake
    -Taunt
    -Roost
    -Toxic/U-turn
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Veil.

    4. Skarmory @ Shed Shell / Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spd
    Nature: Impish
    -Spikes / Stealth Rock
    -Whirlwind
    -Roost
    -Brave Bird

    5. Swampert @ Leftovers
    EVs: 248 HP/48 Atk/212 Def
    Nature: Impish
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Earthquake
    -Roar/Stone Edge/Avalanche
    Since you already have Hippowdon setting up Sandstorm, I changed Swampert's set to let it stick around for a bit longer

    6. Torterra @ ???
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 Spe
    Nature: ???
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake
    -Leech Seed
    -Roar
    Since Torterra gives your team a huge Ice weakness with my current changes, I think it should be replaced by that Tyranitar set you have.
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    As you can see, It still needs a lot of work, and lots of help. But any input given is much appreciated! Thanks guys
    Comments/suggestions in bold. Just to clarify, I made Hippowdon your new lead and replaced Torterra with your Tyranitar set.
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    Old February 15th, 2011 (9:34 AM).
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      Thanks soooo much, but I still have some questions.
      1. I don't understand why I should have two sand streamers instead of one, Hippowdon and Tyranitar both have that effect.
      2. Water-types would rape my team, and I only have one t-bolt and no grass types. Should I change anything else?
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