The PokéCommunity Forums Pokémon: General Discussions Pokémon Strategies and Movesets
Making new friends whilst saying goodbye to them..(OU RMT WIFI!!)

Pokémon Strategies and Movesets Post your team lineups, get your team rated or rate other teams, talk about lineups, talk about moves/movesets, strategies, etc. For general talk about the games, go to the respective Pokémon game forums.

Thread Tools
Old February 15th, 2011 (4:21 PM). Edited February 16th, 2011 by gee2k8.
gee2k8's Avatar
gee2k8 gee2k8 is offline
Slicker than your average
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
Gender: Male
Nature: Jolly
Posts: 84
Hey guys got another wifi battle coming up with my rival/friend so to finish off Gen 4 with a bang before i put this game down for B&W, I am hopefully going to whoop his butt while also trying a few pokes and move sets I’ve not yet experimented with. Here we go:

Running the above team through on the team builder on marriland i found that they have a pretty sweet synergy.

The Lead:

Machamp @ Lum Berry
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 104 HP/252 Atk/48 Spd/104 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Payback
- Ice Punch
- Dynamicpunch

First off it’s Machamp. I’ve seen this lead in action and have tested it on shoddy, If the opponent doesn’t have a check for this guy and I get lucky with confusion then it has become apparent to me that this guy can take down several pokemon on the oppositions team which is luvly jubly. On a personal note i’ve always wanted to use a decent Machamp move set since Red/Blue so i was very amused to find out about this moveset and how much of an anoyyer it was. The evs are slightly different to the standard, extra Spdef for Azelf/Starmie Users and the extra Spd for rival Machamp and Swampert leads, moveset shouldn’t need explaining.

Nature: Bold
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/ 104 Defense/ 152 Speed
Shadow Ball

This it my first ever usage of a Rotom form, i guess i put off the pain of soft resetting to get a decent enough one until now. Mainly need this guy for its Ghost Immunities, Flying check, Gyarados Check and Scizor check. Also very useful to burn hard hitters.

Swampert@ Leftovers*
Nature: Relaxed
248 HP / 212 Def / 48 SpD
Ice Beam
Stealth Rock

Standard Swampert Set, again i’ve never used this guy so i went to the effort of trading for one. I am very impressed with its typing and overall bulk though i wasn’t all that thrilled using it as a lead hence why it isnt in that postion. He’s here to set up SR, roar out stat uppers and scout the opponents team, he also works well as a physical wall.

Scizor @ Choice Band
Technician - Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
248 Hp/252 Atk/12 Spe
~Bullet Punch

Standard CB Scizor. Used him an awful lot for the same reason everybody else does. This guy checks Ttar for Rotom and has a nice synergy with Flygon/Kingdra whilst also being a threat to the various grass pokes Swampert has issues with. It’s standard revenge killing abilities also come in handy .

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (-SpA, +Spe)
Stone Edge

The revenge killer and scout for the team. Never ever used a Flygon as a revenge killer before as I previously didn’t have access to him, now that I have him I am more than impressed with the job he performs. He revenge kills so many of the most threatening OU sweepers this making him imperative to this team’s success.

Kingdra @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature : Adamant
Evs: 144 HP / 160 Atk / 40 SpD / 164 Spe
Dragon Dance

Last but not least its Kingdra. So far i have used Dragonite, TTar, Salamence and Gyarados as my dragon dancers but none have been as enjoyable to use as this guy, what a feeling it is to pull off 2+ dragon dances while gaining all the hp back that you just lost. Not to mention he has a brilliant synergy with Scizor.

A few final comments...
Like the previous posts i have made for my rmts i have gone to the effort of stating that this is strictly a wifi team, so the aggro i would have to go to to obtain a hidden power at 70 damage is just way way too time consuming and just plain boring so please if possible only suggest realistic improvements. Thanks in advance.
Pokemaniac since the beginning!
Pokemon black Friend code: 4684 7630 2392 (send me a pm if u want to be added!)

Relevant Advertising!

Old February 15th, 2011 (10:14 PM).
Dark Azelf's Avatar
Dark Azelf Dark Azelf is offline
Probably hates you.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Nature: Impish
Posts: 7,146
Lucario and Breloom really crushs your team. Id put in a solid fighting resist here. Id say over Kingdra or Rotom really. Rotom is a great Rest Talker and would help take sleep from said loom.

Swampert really wants his Leftovers.

Ill prolly point out more after ive slept.


Also you know what ? This team would love Spikes actually with the double U-Turns on Scizor/Gon and Rotom to block Spin lol. You'd rack up alot of damage.
This signature has been disabled.
You\'ve been told enough times to remove this signature. Slandering a part of PokeCommunity is unacceptable.
Please review and fix the issues by reading the signature rules.

You must edit it to meet the limits set by the rules before you may remove the [sig-reason] code from your signature. Removing this tag will re-enable it.

Do not remove the tag until you fix the issues in your signature. You may be infracted for removing this tag if you do not fix the specified issues. Do not use this tag for decoration purposes.
Old February 16th, 2011 (10:27 AM).
gee2k8's Avatar
gee2k8 gee2k8 is offline
Slicker than your average
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
Gender: Male
Nature: Jolly
Posts: 84
thanks for the reply, the swampert with lum berry is an error so i will amend that, whoops! .

I've noted my weakness to Lucario and Breeloom and have come up with some suggestions. Firstly i removed the following infernape build from the team so its already bread. Would this addition make any type coverage improvements?

Infernape @ Life Orb
252 Atk / 64 SpA / 192 Spe
-Close Combat
-Fire Blast
-Mach Punch

For a fighting resist what do you suggest?

Also just to touch up on your spikes suggestion, possible use of skarmory is an option as i have a good few electric resistances and fire resists. Though i am really unsure who to change on my team without losing alot of power or type coverage.
Pokemaniac since the beginning!
Pokemon black Friend code: 4684 7630 2392 (send me a pm if u want to be added!)
Old February 16th, 2011 (10:38 AM).
Valarauca's Avatar
Valarauca Valarauca is offline
I > U for all real values of U
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: MTU
Nature: Quiet
Posts: 276
Zapdos could work in place of rotom to cover breloom and lucario, provided lucario isn't running HP rock/ice (but i'm not sure how common that is). While keeping your current type coverage.

"Let him not vow to walk in the dark, who has not seen the nightfall."
Quick Reply

Sponsored Links
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 9:51 AM.