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Old August 28th, 2009 (6:02 PM).
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    Use FSF and search for the data size converted into decimal. Or do the same with a hex editor.
    Free Space Byte:FF
    Needed Bytes:2048
    Skip Interval:16
    Dec:2048
    Hex:800
    Search from the beginning of the Rom
    Should I search for it like that? Because I get 3C9DB8, and even when I search for that in Hex Workshop, it can't find it.
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    Old August 28th, 2009 (6:07 PM).
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    Free Space Byte:FF
    Needed Bytes:2048
    Skip Interval:16
    Dec:2048
    Hex:800
    Search from the beginning of the Rom
    Should I search for it like that? Because I get 3C9DB8, and even when I search for that in Hex Workshop, it can't find it.
    Serach after 0x700000 because sometimes FF isn't free space.
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    Old August 28th, 2009 (6:11 PM).
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      Serach after 0x700000 because sometimes FF isn't free space.
      I got 71EC00, but even then, a search in Hex Workshop can't find it. What is my problem?
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      Old August 28th, 2009 (7:27 PM).
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      I got 71EC00, but even then, a search in Hex Workshop can't find it. What is my problem?
      Hex workshop searches bytes, not offsets, use the goto opton to goto an offset.
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      Old August 28th, 2009 (8:18 PM).
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        Hex workshop searches bytes, not offsets, use the goto opton to goto an offset.
        Well I am there.
        I also have tryed to insert my hex. But I get this error in Overworld Editor:
        Error 63 (Bad Record Number) in procedure LoadSpriteStructure of frmOverworldEditor.
        What did I do wrong?
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        Old August 29th, 2009 (6:36 AM).
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        Well I am there.
        I also have tryed to insert my hex. But I get this error in Overworld Editor:
        Error 63 (Bad Record Number) in procedure LoadSpriteStructure of frmOverworldEditor.
        What did I do wrong?
        I don't know, I never got that error. Sorry.
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        Old September 5th, 2009 (7:37 PM). Edited September 5th, 2009 by Cello.
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        This is interesting. Thanks for this, I'm interested into looking into what else I could change.

        Would you happen to know of any variables tangled up in the hex to change the sprite frame count?
        I was hoping to add more frames so I can have gym leaders walk.
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        Old September 6th, 2009 (5:18 AM).
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        This is interesting. Thanks for this, I'm interested into looking into what else I could change.

        Would you happen to know of any variables tangled up in the hex to change the sprite frame count?
        I was hoping to add more frames so I can have gym leaders walk.
        Unfortunately not. I had a little experiment and it seems that the number of frams dpeneds on the OW slot so if I took the player data and pasted that ocer the policeman data, the player would only have 8 frames instead of the full 20.
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        Old September 6th, 2009 (5:42 AM).
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        Unfortunately not. I had a little experiment and it seems that the number of frams dpeneds on the OW slot so if I took the player data and pasted that ocer the policeman data, the player would only have 8 frames instead of the full 20.
        Oh, I see. Oh well.
        Guess I'll just have to make do and overwrite some trainers. :)

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        Old September 7th, 2009 (8:17 AM).
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        Oh, I see. Oh well.
        Guess I'll just have to make do and overwrite some trainers. :)

        Thanks again!
        Well you could try repointing the pointer to frames and then make more than eight frames and see if it works.
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        Old April 7th, 2010 (2:06 AM).
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          how do i search for the offset things in hex workshop?
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            Oh, wow! It worked perfectly on my Ruby ROM. (Good thing they only have 2 different sprite pointers ^^)

            Thanks man! Excellent tut!
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              everytime I change a new frame, saving on Hex Worshop to a new offset for the Hero frames, it reverts the previous frame to a full black sprite.
              What have I done wrong?

              eg; I sprite frame 1 of the hero sprite, then go and make a new offset for frame 2 and when I reopen in OERE frame 1 and 2 are entirely black.
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              Old February 2nd, 2011 (8:25 AM).
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              everytime I change a new frame, saving on Hex Worshop to a new offset for the Hero frames, it reverts the previous frame to a full black sprite.
              What have I done wrong?

              eg; I sprite frame 1 of the hero sprite, then go and make a new offset for frame 2 and when I reopen in OERE frame 1 and 2 are entirely black.
              That's good because it means its been repointed to free space. Now just draw your new OW on top of the black frame. :3
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                My sprite pointer is 083701E0 and reversed it is 0E107380, but when I search for that in HEX Workshop it doesn't find anything. Any ideas?
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                Old May 15th, 2011 (9:39 AM).
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                My sprite pointer is 083701E0 and reversed it is 0E107380, but when I search for that in HEX Workshop it doesn't find anything. Any ideas?
                You reversed it wrong.
                It was originally 08 37 01 E0.
                It should be E0 01 37 08.

                You reverse each group of two digits, not each single digit. :3
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                Old May 15th, 2011 (10:55 AM).
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                  You reversed it wrong.
                  It was originally 08 37 01 E0.
                  It should be E0 01 37 08.

                  You reverse each group of two digits, not each single digit. :3
                  Thanks! But i really don't get this part:
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                  Now follow the sprite pointer and you will come to the pointers of the frames (sprite pointer info 2). Find out how may frames your sprite has and repoint the first (number of frames) pointers to a clean offsets. For the offsets, just find some FF in your hex editor and reverse the offset and replace the first pointer with it. Now to tell how much space you’ll need for each frame, convert the unreversed new data size into decimal.

                  So I get 0800 ---> 2048

                  So I’ll need 2048 bytes for each frame. So I repoint the frames to new offsets with enough space. I’m going to repoint to the offset 71A23C for my first frame so I reverse it and get 3C A2 71 08

                  After each frame pointer there is the old data size for the frame; replace it with the new one (in my case 00 80.)

                  Since all my frames are going to have the same images I’m repointing the frames to one offset but you’ll need to repoint to more offsets if you have a different image on each frame.
                  What do i have to do?
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                  Old May 15th, 2011 (11:06 AM).
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                  What do i have to do?
                  The sprite pointer leads to the frames of the sprite. Repoint the frames to new offsets. The amount of space each frame takes up is determined by the sprite's data size. :3

                  So if the new sprite's data size was 0800 (in hex), the amount of space each frame would need would be 2048 bytes. :3
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                  Old May 15th, 2011 (11:14 AM).
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                    The sprite pointer leads to the frames of the sprite. Repoint the frames to new offsets. The amount of space each frame takes up is determined by the sprite's data size. :3

                    So if the new sprite's data size was 0800 (in hex), the amount of space each frame would need would be 2048 bytes. :3
                    I get that part, but not with ''Find some FF" and ''Repointing".
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                    Old May 15th, 2011 (12:02 PM).
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                    I get that part, but not with ''Find some FF" and ''Repointing".
                    When I say "Find some FF", I mean find some free space. Repointing is pointing something to a new piece of data. If you don't know how to, I suggest you find a tutorial as it is a necessity for hacking.
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                    Old October 23rd, 2011 (12:24 AM).
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                      Is there any other ways to Resize Overworlds except That and using Overworld Changer?..
                      I used Overworld Changer But the palette of the other sprites became Other Colors...
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                        Is there any other ways to Resize Overworlds except That and using Overworld Changer?..
                        I used Overworld Changer But the palette of the other sprites became Other Colors...
                        You could use Nameless Sprite Editor Classic.
                        Almost any sprite can have its size edited, and there shouldn't be undesired side-effects.
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