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Old June 17th, 2011 (9:05 AM). Edited June 17th, 2011 by poopnate.
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    I've always wanted to run a Baton Team, so I made one up really quick. It's probably pretty bad, but this is the first team I've ever built completely by myself (with the help of Smogon, of course). Any suggestions? I always battle in GenIV OU.

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 248 HP / 140 Def / 88 SAtk / 32 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Agility
    - Charge Beam
    - Substitute

    I set up a Substitute and just boost my stats, hitting things weak to Charge Beam whenever possible, but with Calm Mind later, it's not a priority.

    Togekiss (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Hustle
    EVs: 248 HP / 64 SDef / 196 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Toxic
    - Air Slash
    - Roost

    I use Togekiss as my Toxic Spreader when Walls refuse to go down before I have time to get my Sweeper out.

    Smeargle (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Own Tempo
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Ingrain
    - Baton Pass
    - Spore
    - Substitute

    Basic BP Smeargle: Spore, Ingrain, Substitute if needed, and Pass.

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Acid Armor
    - Ice Beam / Aqua Ring
    - Surf / Aqua Ring

    I was thinking of BPing Aqua Ring, but I don't know which attack to keep.

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Baton Pass
    - Earth Power

    With Earth Power, I can take out most Fire-Type threats if I used Charge Beam with Zapdos. If not, I usually have a Vaporeon Substitute up long enough to Calm Mind and Pass.

    Heatran (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Electric]
    - Earth Power
    - Flamethrower
    - Dragon Pulse

    Standard Heatran Special Sweeper; I just use whatever would hit hardest.
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    Old June 19th, 2011 (2:40 AM).
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      Have not got a lot of time but glancing at your team I notice you are not running nasty plot on togakiss, that move is essential if your using him to baton pass
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      Old June 19th, 2011 (5:20 AM).
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      Yes, definitely Nasty Plot. If Zapdos is down, or Charge Beam hasn't helped, then you really need the fast boost. Also, don't use Aqua Ring on Vaporeon. It's not going to help much, tbh. Try Baton Pass / Substitute / Acid Armor / Surf. That means you're not Taunt bait, and tbh you are going to have your Substitute broken at least once in most games, so having Vappy there to set it up again is really helpful.
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      Old June 20th, 2011 (12:58 PM).
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      I'm sure I don't have to mention this, but you're team is super weak to Ice.
      A well placed Ice attack is going to be devastating.

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      Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
      Trait: Water Absorb
      EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 Spd
      Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
      - Baton Pass
      - Aqua Ring / Wish / Acid Armor
      - Ice Beam / Surf
      - Substitute

      I was thinking of BPing Aqua Ring, but I don't know which attack to keep.
      If you're going to use Vaporeon, you might want to consider using it to BP Substitute instead of Smeargle just because it's bulkier. BPing Aqua Ring sounds like a pretty cool and interesting idea, I hope that works out for you. :)

      Wish is good Support for the team, so that's something to think about.

      Surf is a good STAB attack, but Ice Beam would be your only solution to Dragon type Pokemon besides Heatran's Dragon Pulse.

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      Smeargle (M) @ Shed Shell
      Trait: Own Tempo
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spd
      Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
      - Ingrain
      - Baton Pass
      - Spore
      - Substitute
      Leftovers don't make much sense only because you wouldn't want Smeargle out on the battlefield for long anyway.

      Smeargle doesn't exactly posses the best offensive or defensive characteristics. So if you're confronted with an opponent who can OHKO Smeargle and you've used Ingrain, you're going to want the Shed Shell so you can have a second attempt at Baton Passing.

      Oh, and I'm sure you have your reasons, but never forget that Dedicated Speed Passer, Ninjask. ;)

      That's all.

      Best of luck!
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